Proof of Green Chozo Room [locked]

2009-04-01 09:04:37 pm

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I don't know, Bloodsonic, that video is awfully convincing. Congratulations, MikeZ.
kidding! I'm KIDDING! Don't hate me.

GF_Kennon

2009-04-01 09:39:36 pm

Destroyer of Pirates

well, we had a big convo over this, so read up

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[2009-04-01 20:27:38] <GF_Kennon> http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php/topic,8101.msg251496.html#msg251496
[2009-04-01 20:27:48] <GF_Kennon> ether this is very real
[2009-04-01 20:28:05] <GF_Kennon> or he's pulling a big one
[2009-04-01 20:28:45] <Zhs2> indeed
[2009-04-01 20:29:06] <Zozo124> IT's NOT A FAKE??????
[2009-04-01 20:29:54] <Zhs2> No idea
[2009-04-01 20:30:20] <Zozo124> O_O
[2009-04-01 20:30:20] <Zhs2> I believe it's as much of a hoax as the HelloBot you guys keep mentioning
[2009-04-01 20:30:24] <Zozo124> i'll tray it
[2009-04-01 20:30:32] <Zozo124> with my TAS knowledge :/
[2009-04-01 20:30:49] <GF_Kennon> FUCK I HATE THIS DAY!!!!!!!
[2009-04-01 20:30:50] <Zhs2> Good luck. The fate of the world rests on your shoulders
[2009-04-01 20:31:02] <Zhs2> o_°
[2009-04-01 20:31:04] <GF_Kennon> HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
[2009-04-01 20:31:09] <GF_Kennon> HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
[2009-04-01 20:31:19] <GF_Kennon> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 
[2009-04-01 20:31:25] <GF_Kennon> plus
[2009-04-01 20:31:30] <GF_Kennon> if this is true
[2009-04-01 20:31:34] <Zhs2> What's wrong, GF_Kennon? Did your parents steal some good shit and say, "April Fools! Actually, never mind. We did sell it"
[2009-04-01 20:31:39] <intercest> The video was uploaded on the 31st
[2009-04-01 20:31:44] <GF_Kennon> then its the end of the world
[2009-04-01 20:31:46] <Phazar> lol GoodbyeBot
[2009-04-01 20:31:54] <GF_Kennon> LOL
[2009-04-01 20:31:55] <Phazar> Is this for April Fool's?
[2009-04-01 20:32:06] <Zhs2> What are you talking about?
[2009-04-01 20:32:12] <Zozo124> And why don't smile show that block?
[2009-04-01 20:32:17] <Zhs2> GoodbyeBot has always been a part of this channel!
[2009-04-01 20:32:22] <Zhs2> I love you, GoodbyeBot!
[2009-04-01 20:32:23] <GoodbyeBot> I hate you too! o_o
[2009-04-01 20:32:24] <GF_Kennon> dude
[2009-04-01 20:32:29] <Zozo124> yes?
[2009-04-01 20:32:38] <GF_Kennon> i have a theory 
[2009-04-01 20:32:45] <GF_Kennon> if this is true
[2009-04-01 20:32:54] <Zozo124> yes?
[2009-04-01 20:32:56] <Zozo124> i'll do it now
[2009-04-01 20:33:09] <intercest> zhs
[2009-04-01 20:33:11] <GF_Kennon> have you ever shot wave beam at the roof in crocks room 
[2009-04-01 20:33:13] <Zhs2> intercest
[2009-04-01 20:33:18] <Zozo124> INTERINCEST
[2009-04-01 20:33:21] <intercest> Your April fools joke is too lame
[2009-04-01 20:33:26] <GF_Kennon> you can hear blocks breaking
[2009-04-01 20:33:27] <Zozo124> THE GREEN TORIZO WORKS
[2009-04-01 20:33:28] <Zhs2> ō_ô
[2009-04-01 20:33:30] <intercest> HelloBot is linked to your account

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[2009-04-01 20:36:20] * Zozo124 is testing that green torizo room =)
[2009-04-01 20:36:51] <Zozo124> Interincest
[2009-04-01 20:36:58] <Zozo124> do you know why smile don't show that block?
[2009-04-01 20:38:54] <intercest> Why would I
[2009-04-01 20:41:09] <Zozo124> because you know more things 
[2009-04-01 20:41:13] <Zozo124> as me
[2009-04-01 20:42:25] <GF_Kennon> hmm
[2009-04-01 20:42:33] <GF_Kennon> i need a specific version
[2009-04-01 20:42:43] <GF_Kennon> but i cant find it
[2009-04-01 20:42:53] <Zhs2> lol @ "Last quit message: Quit: mibbit.com: quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit"
[2009-04-01 20:43:11] <GF_Kennon> Snes9x 1.43 improvement 15
[2009-04-01 20:44:05] <Zozo124> i will do my segment of glitch
[2009-04-01 20:46:37] <GF_Kennon> grr
[2009-04-01 20:46:44] <GF_Kennon> cant find it
[2009-04-01 20:48:18] <GF_Kennon> got it
[2009-04-01 20:48:27] <GF_Kennon> lets prove it now
[2009-04-01 20:49:38] <Zozo124> It dod'nt work on super short charge speed first ...
[2009-04-01 20:49:49] <Zozo124> i think i need more speed to enter it
[2009-04-01 20:50:54] <GF_Kennon> ...
[2009-04-01 20:51:01] <GF_Kennon> we are all dead now
[2009-04-01 20:51:06] <Zozo124> why,?
[2009-04-01 20:51:25] <GF_Kennon> the apocalypse is coming
[2009-04-01 20:51:39] <GF_Kennon> ITS FUCKING TRUE D=
[2009-04-01 20:51:45] <Zozo124> O_O
[2009-04-01 20:51:49] <GF_Kennon> HE WAS NOT SHITING
[2009-04-01 20:51:49] <Zozo124> what is you're speed
[2009-04-01 20:51:55] <Zozo124> when you have touched it?
[2009-04-01 20:51:57] <GF_Kennon> FUCK
[2009-04-01 20:52:17] <GF_Kennon> Zhs2 FUCKING ZHS2
[2009-04-01 20:52:27] <GF_Kennon> WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU
[2009-04-01 20:52:43] <Zhs2> Fucking with Maple Story
[2009-04-01 20:52:53] <Zhs2> Or, at least, as much as Aile needs me too
[2009-04-01 20:53:28] <Zhs2> But I'm not actually getting the verification e-mail, so nothing's happening right now
[2009-04-01 20:53:29] <Zozo124> I have removed the blocks
[2009-04-01 20:53:36] <Zozo124> but it did'nt Warp me 
[2009-04-01 20:53:46] <GF_Kennon> zozo
[2009-04-01 20:53:47] <Zozo124> (i have remove them with smile)
[2009-04-01 20:53:51] <Zozo124> i think
[2009-04-01 20:53:54] <Zhs2> Whoa, wait, the fucking glitch works?
[2009-04-01 20:53:58] <Zozo124> YEAH
[2009-04-01 20:54:05] <GF_Kennon> i have seen this with my own eyes
[2009-04-01 20:54:06] <Zhs2> o_o
[2009-04-01 20:54:23] <GF_Kennon> ima going to post this log up there 
[2009-04-01 20:57:42] -->| Squish (chatzilla@CPE-72-128-201-233.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #metconst
[2009-04-01 20:57:42] <GoodbyeBot> Goodbye, Squish ! v.v
[2009-04-01 20:57:58] <Squish> Why does it say Goodbye? =(
[2009-04-01 20:58:22] * Zhs2 is now playing: "Boss 2" - The Magical Quest (SNES)
[2009-04-01 20:58:25] <Zozo124> Hey squish
[2009-04-01 20:58:26] <Zhs2> It's GoodbyeBot!
[2009-04-01 20:58:33] <Squish> Hey.
[2009-04-01 20:58:34] <Zozo124> green torizo glitch will be approved
[2009-04-01 20:58:39] <Zhs2> It's supposed to say goodbye! :DDDDD
[2009-04-01 20:58:45] <Zozo124> when smile will give me my waited spring ball

comp crashed here and i forget

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[2009-04-01 22:19:56] <Zhs2> Do you still have time to make a vid of the Green Chozo room?
[2009-04-01 22:21:08] <GF_Kennon> it was his SMV
[2009-04-01 22:21:36] <Zhs2> oh.
[2009-04-01 22:21:46] <GF_Kennon> i dont know to what extent you can hack them
[2009-04-01 22:22:01] <GF_Kennon> iirc there just button presses
[2009-04-01 22:22:04] <GF_Kennon> recorded
[2009-04-01 22:22:32] <Zhs2> .wa
[2009-04-01 22:22:33] * Zhs2 is now playing: "Meltdown" - Battle Cars (SNES)
[2009-04-01 22:22:40] * GF_Kennon is a little bit suspicious
[2009-04-01 22:23:01] <GF_Kennon> looking at the CRT(?) its different
[2009-04-01 22:23:10] <GF_Kennon> whats SM's CRT
[2009-04-01 22:23:22] <GF_Kennon> i think i dont have a clean ROM
[2009-04-01 22:23:47] <wat> 1:03 on metroid fusion :)
[2009-04-01 22:24:09] <GF_Kennon> ok, let me get the info
[2009-04-01 22:24:37] <Zhs2> Dangit
[2009-04-01 22:24:47] <Zhs2> I don't seem to have a totally clean rom either
[2009-04-01 22:25:06] <GF_Kennon> bah
[2009-04-01 22:25:12] <GF_Kennon> i do have a bad rom
[2009-04-01 22:25:18] <GF_Kennon> but
[2009-04-01 22:25:24] <Zhs2> Never mind, I got it
[2009-04-01 22:25:53] <GF_Kennon> crc32=D63ED5F8
[2009-04-01 22:26:08] <GF_Kennon> blast, i need a clean ROM
[2009-04-01 22:26:09] <Zhs2> d63ed5f8
[2009-04-01 22:26:10] <GF_Kennon> wait
[2009-04-01 22:26:14] <Zhs2> Oh, yeah, you have it
[2009-04-01 22:26:17] <GF_Kennon> header
[2009-04-01 22:26:55] <GF_Kennon> to work on the snes , the games need headers
[2009-04-01 22:27:00] <wat> 1:03 ON METROID FUSION :D
[2009-04-01 22:27:50] <GF_Kennon> aha
[2009-04-01 22:27:56] <GF_Kennon> checksum match 
[2009-04-01 22:28:01] <GF_Kennon> for a header
[2009-04-01 22:28:02] <GF_Kennon> so
[2009-04-01 22:28:29] <GF_Kennon> how the fuck do we verify the smv?
[2009-04-01 22:28:40] <GF_Kennon> i also need to post this log
[2009-04-01 22:28:57] <Zhs2> :\
[2009-04-01 22:29:00] <Zhs2> I dunno
[2009-04-01 22:29:05] <GF_Kennon> damn it
[2009-04-01 22:29:10] <wat> 1:03 ON METROID FUSION :D
[2009-04-01 22:29:19] =-= wat was booted from #metconst by YOU (wat)
[2009-04-01 22:29:19] -->| wat (wat@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net) has joined #metconst
[2009-04-01 22:29:20] <GoodbyeBot> Goodbye, wat ! v.v
[2009-04-01 22:29:21] =-= Mode #metconst +v wat by ChanServ
[2009-04-01 22:29:22] <wat> 1:03 ON METROID FUSION :D
[2009-04-01 22:29:26] <wat> SOMEONE COMMENT ON THAT TIME
[2009-04-01 22:29:28] =-= Mode #metconst +b *!*@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net by GF_Kennon
[2009-04-01 22:29:29] =-= wat was booted from #metconst by YOU (wat)
[2009-04-01 22:29:38] <GF_Kennon> not in the mood
[2009-04-01 22:30:02] <GF_Kennon> lol
[2009-04-01 22:30:12] <GF_Kennon> i forgot how to unban
[2009-04-01 22:30:14] =-= Mode #metconst -b *!*@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net by Zhs2
[2009-04-01 22:30:15] -->| wat (wat@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net) has joined #metconst
[2009-04-01 22:30:16] =-= Mode #metconst +v wat by ChanServ
[2009-04-01 22:30:16] <GoodbyeBot> Goodbye, wat ! v.v
[2009-04-01 22:30:20] <Zhs2> That wasn't very nice :\
[2009-04-01 22:30:22] <wat> someone comment on my time
[2009-04-01 22:30:29] <Phazar> Awesome time, wat
[2009-04-01 22:30:30] <GF_Kennon> whats the command to unban?
[2009-04-01 22:30:34] <wat> thanks phazar :D

in #jzd

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[2009-04-01 20:53:11] <GF_Kennon> Kejardon i have a quick question, can you hack an .smv?  
[2009-04-01 20:53:24] <GF_Kennon> if not
[2009-04-01 20:53:39] <GF_Kennon> then the green chozo room is true
[2009-04-01 20:54:14] <Zozo124> he don't answer
[2009-04-01 20:54:43] <Zozo124> so yeah it is possible
[2009-04-01 20:54:45] <GF_Kennon> i dont think you can hack an smv anyway
[2009-04-01 20:55:13] <GF_Kennon> because isnt it just a record of what buttons were pressed?
[2009-04-01 20:55:28] <GF_Kennon> i have seen with my own eyes
[2009-04-01 20:55:38] <Zozo124> there are some things who determine where you are at the beginning of the video
[2009-04-01 20:55:46] <GF_Kennon> now where is the fucking slowdown button
[2009-04-01 20:55:54] <Zozo124> use frame advance
[2009-04-01 20:55:57] <Zozo124> it is better
[2009-04-01 20:56:02] <Zozo124> and without spring ball
[2009-04-01 20:56:04] <Zozo124> it is impossible
[2009-04-01 20:56:16] <Zozo124> this glitch need full speed before enter the glitch area
[2009-04-01 20:56:30] <Zozo124> because i have trayed it with a super short change, without get results
[2009-04-01 20:56:49] <intercest> As you can see
[2009-04-01 20:56:55] <intercest> He's jumping to make sure his position is right
[2009-04-01 20:57:05] <Zozo124> ah,
[2009-04-01 20:57:13] <Zozo124> this is a beginning position
[2009-04-01 20:57:14] <DSO> GF: hacking .smvs is very possible
[2009-04-01 20:57:22] <Zozo124> so it's not a collision glitch ...
[2009-04-01 20:57:27] <Zozo124> But Why

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[2009-04-01 22:32:15] <GF_Kennon> ah damn it
[2009-04-01 22:32:22] <GF_Kennon> i need a bit of help
[2009-04-01 22:33:06] <GF_Kennon> i need someone to help determine if this smv is hacked 
[2009-04-01 22:34:24] <GF_Kennon> please
[2009-04-01 22:36:53] <Bloodsonic> sup mo'
[2009-04-01 22:37:15] <GF_Kennon> hi blood
[2009-04-01 22:37:26] <Bloodsonic> green torizo one?
[2009-04-01 22:37:44] <GF_Kennon> yes
[2009-04-01 22:38:12] <Bloodsonic> lol no idea
[2009-04-01 22:38:14] <PJBoy> the smv isn't hacked
[2009-04-01 22:38:29] <GF_Kennon> then its true
[2009-04-01 22:38:29] <Bloodsonic> the rom that's used is?
[2009-04-01 22:38:32] <GF_Kennon> nope
[2009-04-01 22:38:42] <GF_Kennon> crc32 are the same
[2009-04-01 22:38:50] <GF_Kennon> mine and his match
[2009-04-01 22:39:11] <PJBoy> although
[2009-04-01 22:39:44] * GF_Kennon is trying to get to the bottom of this
[2009-04-01 22:40:25] <GF_Kennon> im going to watch this in slow and recreate the best i can
[2009-04-01 22:40:38] <GF_Kennon> but im not a TASer
[2009-04-01 22:40:39] <PJBoy> Cpadolf recreated it exactly
[2009-04-01 22:40:41] <PJBoy> and it didn't work
[2009-04-01 22:40:47] <GF_Kennon> ah
[2009-04-01 22:40:48] <PJBoy> so it must something in the SRAM
[2009-04-01 22:41:07] * GF_Kennon remembers a hacked ZST
[2009-04-01 22:41:25] <GF_Kennon> it put in a few new rooms and stuff
[2009-04-01 22:41:26] * PJBoy suspects Kej's trick that help skip all the bosses
[2009-04-01 22:41:37] <PJBoy> *helped
[2009-04-01 22:41:46] <GF_Kennon> mnn
[2009-04-01 22:43:16] <GF_Kennon> damn it
[2009-04-01 22:43:37] <GF_Kennon> i dont know what to do
[2009-04-01 22:46:10] <intercest> <PJBoy> Cpadolf recreated it exactly != Kej
[2009-04-01 22:46:15] <intercest> Video Maker = Kej
[2009-04-01 22:46:26] <Zhs2> lol
[2009-04-01 22:46:27] <PJBoy> ...
[2009-04-01 22:46:37] <intercest> kej = SM god
[2009-04-01 22:46:44] <PJBoy> noone said Cpadolf was kej!!!!1
[2009-04-01 22:46:53] <Aile> Luigi is better than Mario
[2009-04-01 22:46:54] <intercest> KEJ IS A GOD
[2009-04-01 22:46:57] <Aile> in my opinion
[2009-04-01 22:47:00] <intercest> IT DOESN"T MATTER IF SOMEONE RECREATED IT
[2009-04-01 22:47:01] <intercest> KEJ
[2009-04-01 22:47:02] <intercest> = GOD
[2009-04-01 22:47:07] <GF_Kennon> lol
[2009-04-01 22:47:13] <intercest> WHY THE FUCK NOT JUST MAKE AN SMV OF THE FUCKING SMV?
[2009-04-01 22:47:20] <intercest> AND SEE WHATR TEH FUCK HAPPENS
[2009-04-01 22:47:35] <Bloodsonic> kej IS a god. if he says it's fake, it's fake wether he has proof or not xD
[2009-04-01 22:47:35] * Zhs2 is now playing: "Fairy Night" - Monstania (SNES)
[2009-04-01 22:47:48] <Bloodsonic> also
[2009-04-01 22:48:00] <Bloodsonic> I can't seem to perform the trick either
[2009-04-01 22:48:16] <wat> does cpadolf ever play non FRAME BY FRAME anymore?
[2009-04-01 22:48:23] <wat> or does he do a TAS every time he plays super metroid
[2009-04-01 22:52:54] <intercest> TAS = soo boring
[2009-04-01 22:53:08] <Bloodsonic> ô_ō
[2009-04-01 22:54:16] <Aile> I like TAS'ing Sonic games
[2009-04-01 22:54:25] <Aile> I like TAS's where I can really act the spaz
[2009-04-01 22:54:27] <Aile> :P
[2009-04-01 22:54:41] <Aile> So I more... TA rather than S.
[2009-04-01 22:54:47] <Drewseph> did kej ever release a teaser?
[2009-04-01 22:55:11] <Drewseph> tool assisted segment isn't it?
[2009-04-01 22:55:21] <Bloodsonic> Tool Assisted Speedrun
[2009-04-01 22:55:37] <Bloodsonic> I don't think kej released another teaser... did he?
[2009-04-01 22:56:14] <Bloodsonic> oh. new TAS segment of redesign :O
[2009-04-01 23:05:19] <Bloodsonic> oh my god.
[2009-04-01 23:05:47] <Bloodsonic> that TAS video just taught me that TASers are going to be literally crashing insanity with their pure power.
[2009-04-01 23:06:25] <GF_Kennon> :O
[2009-04-01 23:06:57] <PJBoy> yup
[2009-04-01 23:07:01] <PJBoy> the SRAM is hacked
[2009-04-01 23:08:49] <intercest> lol
[2009-04-01 23:08:59] <GF_Kennon> nice
[2009-04-01 23:09:09] <Zhs2> DOES IT HAVE THE KEJARDON SIGNATURE?
[2009-04-01 23:09:26] <GF_Kennon> XD

nothing more yet

well, we had a big convo over this, so read up

#metconst logs

[code][2009-04-01 20:27:38] <GF_Kennon> http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php/topic,8101.msg251496.html#msg251496
[2009-04-01 20:27:48] <GF_Kennon> ether this is very real
[2009-04-01 20:28:05] <GF_Kennon> or he's pulling a big one
[2009-04-01 20:28:45] <Zhs2> indeed
[2009-04-01 20:29:06] <Zozo124> IT's NOT A FAKE??????
[2009-04-01 20:29:54] <Zhs2> No idea
[2009-04-01 20:30:20] <Zozo124> O_O
[2009-04-01 20:30:20] <Zhs2> I believe it's as much of a hoax as the HelloBot you guys keep mentioning
[2009-04-01 20:30:24] <Zozo124> i'll tray it
[2009-04-01 20:30:32] <Zozo124> with my TAS knowledge :/
[2009-04-01 20:30:49] <GF_Kennon> FUCK I HATE THIS DAY!!!!!!!
[2009-04-01 20:30:50] <Zhs2> Good luck. The fate of the world rests on your shoulders
[2009-04-01 20:31:02] <Zhs2> o_°
[2009-04-01 20:31:04] <GF_Kennon> HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
[2009-04-01 20:31:09] <GF_Kennon> HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
[2009-04-01 20:31:19] <GF_Kennon> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 
[2009-04-01 20:31:25] <GF_Kennon> plus
[2009-04-01 20:31:30] <GF_Kennon> if this is true
[2009-04-01 20:31:34] <Zhs2> What's wrong, GF_Kennon? Did your parents steal some good shit and say, "April Fools! Actually, never mind. We did sell it"
[2009-04-01 20:31:39] <intercest> The video was uploaded on the 31st
[2009-04-01 20:31:44] <GF_Kennon> then its the end of the world
[2009-04-01 20:31:46] <Phazar> lol GoodbyeBot
[2009-04-01 20:31:54] <GF_Kennon> LOL
[2009-04-01 20:31:55] <Phazar> Is this for April Fool's?
[2009-04-01 20:32:06] <Zhs2> What are you talking about?
[2009-04-01 20:32:12] <Zozo124> And why don't smile show that block?
[2009-04-01 20:32:17] <Zhs2> GoodbyeBot has always been a part of this channel!
[2009-04-01 20:32:22] <Zhs2> I love you, GoodbyeBot!
[2009-04-01 20:32:23] <GoodbyeBot> I hate you too! o_o
[2009-04-01 20:32:24] <GF_Kennon> dude
[2009-04-01 20:32:29] <Zozo124> yes?
[2009-04-01 20:32:38] <GF_Kennon> i have a theory 
[2009-04-01 20:32:45] <GF_Kennon> if this is true
[2009-04-01 20:32:54] <Zozo124> yes?
[2009-04-01 20:32:56] <Zozo124> i'll do it now
[2009-04-01 20:33:09] <intercest> zhs
[2009-04-01 20:33:11] <GF_Kennon> have you ever shot wave beam at the roof in crocks room 
[2009-04-01 20:33:13] <Zhs2> intercest
[2009-04-01 20:33:18] <Zozo124> INTERINCEST
[2009-04-01 20:33:21] <intercest> Your April fools joke is too lame
[2009-04-01 20:33:26] <GF_Kennon> you can hear blocks breaking
[2009-04-01 20:33:27] <Zozo124> THE GREEN TORIZO WORKS
[2009-04-01 20:33:28] <Zhs2> ō_ô
[2009-04-01 20:33:30] <intercest> HelloBot is linked to your account[/code]
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[code][2009-04-01 20:36:20] * Zozo124 is testing that green torizo room =)
[2009-04-01 20:36:51] <Zozo124> Interincest
[2009-04-01 20:36:58] <Zozo124> do you know why smile don't show that block?
[2009-04-01 20:38:54] <intercest> Why would I
[2009-04-01 20:41:09] <Zozo124> because you know more things 
[2009-04-01 20:41:13] <Zozo124> as me
[2009-04-01 20:42:25] <GF_Kennon> hmm
[2009-04-01 20:42:33] <GF_Kennon> i need a specific version
[2009-04-01 20:42:43] <GF_Kennon> but i cant find it
[2009-04-01 20:42:53] <Zhs2> lol @ "Last quit message: Quit: mibbit.com: quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit quit"
[2009-04-01 20:43:11] <GF_Kennon> Snes9x 1.43 improvement 15
[2009-04-01 20:44:05] <Zozo124> i will do my segment of glitch
[2009-04-01 20:46:37] <GF_Kennon> grr
[2009-04-01 20:46:44] <GF_Kennon> cant find it
[2009-04-01 20:48:18] <GF_Kennon> got it
[2009-04-01 20:48:27] <GF_Kennon> lets prove it now
[2009-04-01 20:49:38] <Zozo124> It dod'nt work on super short charge speed first ...
[2009-04-01 20:49:49] <Zozo124> i think i need more speed to enter it
[2009-04-01 20:50:54] <GF_Kennon> ...
[2009-04-01 20:51:01] <GF_Kennon> we are all dead now
[2009-04-01 20:51:06] <Zozo124> why,?
[2009-04-01 20:51:25] <GF_Kennon> the apocalypse is coming
[2009-04-01 20:51:39] <GF_Kennon> ITS FUCKING TRUE D=
[2009-04-01 20:51:45] <Zozo124> O_O
[2009-04-01 20:51:49] <GF_Kennon> HE WAS NOT SHITING
[2009-04-01 20:51:49] <Zozo124> what is you're speed
[2009-04-01 20:51:55] <Zozo124> when you have touched it?
[2009-04-01 20:51:57] <GF_Kennon> FUCK
[2009-04-01 20:52:17] <GF_Kennon> Zhs2 FUCKING ZHS2
[2009-04-01 20:52:27] <GF_Kennon> WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU
[2009-04-01 20:52:43] <Zhs2> Fucking with Maple Story
[2009-04-01 20:52:53] <Zhs2> Or, at least, as much as Aile needs me too
[2009-04-01 20:53:28] <Zhs2> But I'm not actually getting the verification e-mail, so nothing's happening right now
[2009-04-01 20:53:29] <Zozo124> I have removed the blocks
[2009-04-01 20:53:36] <Zozo124> but it did'nt Warp me 
[2009-04-01 20:53:46] <GF_Kennon> zozo
[2009-04-01 20:53:47] <Zozo124> (i have remove them with smile)
[2009-04-01 20:53:51] <Zozo124> i think
[2009-04-01 20:53:54] <Zhs2> Whoa, wait, the fucking glitch works?
[2009-04-01 20:53:58] <Zozo124> YEAH
[2009-04-01 20:54:05] <GF_Kennon> i have seen this with my own eyes
[2009-04-01 20:54:06] <Zhs2> o_o
[2009-04-01 20:54:23] <GF_Kennon> ima going to post this log up there 
[2009-04-01 20:57:42] -->| Squish (chatzilla@CPE-72-128-201-233.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #metconst
[2009-04-01 20:57:42] <GoodbyeBot> Goodbye, Squish ! v.v
[2009-04-01 20:57:58] <Squish> Why does it say Goodbye? =(
[2009-04-01 20:58:22] * Zhs2 is now playing: "Boss 2" - The Magical Quest (SNES)
[2009-04-01 20:58:25] <Zozo124> Hey squish
[2009-04-01 20:58:26] <Zhs2> It's GoodbyeBot!
[2009-04-01 20:58:33] <Squish> Hey.
[2009-04-01 20:58:34] <Zozo124> green torizo glitch will be approved
[2009-04-01 20:58:39] <Zhs2> It's supposed to say goodbye! :DDDDD
[2009-04-01 20:58:45] <Zozo124> when smile will give me my waited spring ball[/code]
comp crashed here and i forget
[code][2009-04-01 22:19:56] <Zhs2> Do you still have time to make a vid of the Green Chozo room?
[2009-04-01 22:21:08] <GF_Kennon> it was his SMV
[2009-04-01 22:21:36] <Zhs2> oh.
[2009-04-01 22:21:46] <GF_Kennon> i dont know to what extent you can hack them
[2009-04-01 22:22:01] <GF_Kennon> iirc there just button presses
[2009-04-01 22:22:04] <GF_Kennon> recorded
[2009-04-01 22:22:32] <Zhs2> .wa
[2009-04-01 22:22:33] * Zhs2 is now playing: "Meltdown" - Battle Cars (SNES)
[2009-04-01 22:22:40] * GF_Kennon is a little bit suspicious
[2009-04-01 22:23:01] <GF_Kennon> looking at the CRT(?) its different
[2009-04-01 22:23:10] <GF_Kennon> whats SM's CRT
[2009-04-01 22:23:22] <GF_Kennon> i think i dont have a clean ROM
[2009-04-01 22:23:47] <wat> 1:03 on metroid fusion :)
[2009-04-01 22:24:09] <GF_Kennon> ok, let me get the info
[2009-04-01 22:24:37] <Zhs2> Dangit
[2009-04-01 22:24:47] <Zhs2> I don't seem to have a totally clean rom either
[2009-04-01 22:25:06] <GF_Kennon> bah
[2009-04-01 22:25:12] <GF_Kennon> i do have a bad rom
[2009-04-01 22:25:18] <GF_Kennon> but
[2009-04-01 22:25:24] <Zhs2> Never mind, I got it
[2009-04-01 22:25:53] <GF_Kennon> crc32=D63ED5F8
[2009-04-01 22:26:08] <GF_Kennon> blast, i need a clean ROM
[2009-04-01 22:26:09] <Zhs2> d63ed5f8
[2009-04-01 22:26:10] <GF_Kennon> wait
[2009-04-01 22:26:14] <Zhs2> Oh, yeah, you have it
[2009-04-01 22:26:17] <GF_Kennon> header
[2009-04-01 22:26:55] <GF_Kennon> to work on the snes , the games need headers
[2009-04-01 22:27:00] <wat> 1:03 ON METROID FUSION :D
[2009-04-01 22:27:50] <GF_Kennon> aha
[2009-04-01 22:27:56] <GF_Kennon> checksum match 
[2009-04-01 22:28:01] <GF_Kennon> for a header
[2009-04-01 22:28:02] <GF_Kennon> so
[2009-04-01 22:28:29] <GF_Kennon> how the fuck do we verify the smv?
[2009-04-01 22:28:40] <GF_Kennon> i also need to post this log
[2009-04-01 22:28:57] <Zhs2> :\
[2009-04-01 22:29:00] <Zhs2> I dunno
[2009-04-01 22:29:05] <GF_Kennon> damn it
[2009-04-01 22:29:10] <wat> 1:03 ON METROID FUSION :D
[2009-04-01 22:29:19] =-= wat was booted from #metconst by YOU (wat)
[2009-04-01 22:29:19] -->| wat (wat@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net) has joined #metconst
[2009-04-01 22:29:20] <GoodbyeBot> Goodbye, wat ! v.v
[2009-04-01 22:29:21] =-= Mode #metconst +v wat by ChanServ
[2009-04-01 22:29:22] <wat> 1:03 ON METROID FUSION :D
[2009-04-01 22:29:26] <wat> SOMEONE COMMENT ON THAT TIME
[2009-04-01 22:29:28] =-= Mode #metconst +b *!*@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net by GF_Kennon
[2009-04-01 22:29:29] =-= wat was booted from #metconst by YOU (wat)
[2009-04-01 22:29:38] <GF_Kennon> not in the mood
[2009-04-01 22:30:02] <GF_Kennon> lol
[2009-04-01 22:30:12] <GF_Kennon> i forgot how to unban
[2009-04-01 22:30:14] =-= Mode #metconst -b *!*@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net by Zhs2
[2009-04-01 22:30:15] -->| wat (wat@ip72-204-35-60.fv.ks.cox.net) has joined #metconst
[2009-04-01 22:30:16] =-= Mode #metconst +v wat by ChanServ
[2009-04-01 22:30:16] <GoodbyeBot> Goodbye, wat ! v.v
[2009-04-01 22:30:20] <Zhs2> That wasn't very nice :\
[2009-04-01 22:30:22] <wat> someone comment on my time
[2009-04-01 22:30:29] <Phazar> Awesome time, wat
[2009-04-01 22:30:30] <GF_Kennon> whats the command to unban?
[2009-04-01 22:30:34] <wat> thanks phazar :D
[/code]

in #jzd

[code][2009-04-01 20:53:11] <GF_Kennon> Kejardon i have a quick question, can you hack an .smv?  
[2009-04-01 20:53:24] <GF_Kennon> if not
[2009-04-01 20:53:39] <GF_Kennon> then the green chozo room is true
[2009-04-01 20:54:14] <Zozo124> he don't answer
[2009-04-01 20:54:43] <Zozo124> so yeah it is possible
[2009-04-01 20:54:45] <GF_Kennon> i dont think you can hack an smv anyway
[2009-04-01 20:55:13] <GF_Kennon> because isnt it just a record of what buttons were pressed?
[2009-04-01 20:55:28] <GF_Kennon> i have seen with my own eyes
[2009-04-01 20:55:38] <Zozo124> there are some things who determine where you are at the beginning of the video
[2009-04-01 20:55:46] <GF_Kennon> now where is the fucking slowdown button
[2009-04-01 20:55:54] <Zozo124> use frame advance
[2009-04-01 20:55:57] <Zozo124> it is better
[2009-04-01 20:56:02] <Zozo124> and without spring ball
[2009-04-01 20:56:04] <Zozo124> it is impossible
[2009-04-01 20:56:16] <Zozo124> this glitch need full speed before enter the glitch area
[2009-04-01 20:56:30] <Zozo124> because i have trayed it with a super short change, without get results
[2009-04-01 20:56:49] <intercest> As you can see
[2009-04-01 20:56:55] <intercest> He's jumping to make sure his position is right
[2009-04-01 20:57:05] <Zozo124> ah,
[2009-04-01 20:57:13] <Zozo124> this is a beginning position
[2009-04-01 20:57:14] <DSO> GF: hacking .smvs is very possible
[2009-04-01 20:57:22] <Zozo124> so it's not a collision glitch ...
[2009-04-01 20:57:27] <Zozo124> But Why[/code]

[code][2009-04-01 22:32:15] <GF_Kennon> ah damn it
[2009-04-01 22:32:22] <GF_Kennon> i need a bit of help
[2009-04-01 22:33:06] <GF_Kennon> i need someone to help determine if this smv is hacked 
[2009-04-01 22:34:24] <GF_Kennon> please
[2009-04-01 22:36:53] <Bloodsonic> sup mo'
[2009-04-01 22:37:15] <GF_Kennon> hi blood
[2009-04-01 22:37:26] <Bloodsonic> green torizo one?
[2009-04-01 22:37:44] <GF_Kennon> yes
[2009-04-01 22:38:12] <Bloodsonic> lol no idea
[2009-04-01 22:38:14] <PJBoy> the smv isn't hacked
[2009-04-01 22:38:29] <GF_Kennon> then its true
[2009-04-01 22:38:29] <Bloodsonic> the rom that's used is?
[2009-04-01 22:38:32] <GF_Kennon> nope
[2009-04-01 22:38:42] <GF_Kennon> crc32 are the same
[2009-04-01 22:38:50] <GF_Kennon> mine and his match
[2009-04-01 22:39:11] <PJBoy> although
[2009-04-01 22:39:44] * GF_Kennon is trying to get to the bottom of this
[2009-04-01 22:40:25] <GF_Kennon> im going to watch this in slow and recreate the best i can
[2009-04-01 22:40:38] <GF_Kennon> but im not a TASer
[2009-04-01 22:40:39] <PJBoy> Cpadolf recreated it exactly
[2009-04-01 22:40:41] <PJBoy> and it didn't work
[2009-04-01 22:40:47] <GF_Kennon> ah
[2009-04-01 22:40:48] <PJBoy> so it must something in the SRAM
[2009-04-01 22:41:07] * GF_Kennon remembers a hacked ZST
[2009-04-01 22:41:25] <GF_Kennon> it put in a few new rooms and stuff
[2009-04-01 22:41:26] * PJBoy suspects Kej's trick that help skip all the bosses
[2009-04-01 22:41:37] <PJBoy> *helped
[2009-04-01 22:41:46] <GF_Kennon> mnn
[2009-04-01 22:43:16] <GF_Kennon> damn it
[2009-04-01 22:43:37] <GF_Kennon> i dont know what to do
[2009-04-01 22:46:10] <intercest> <PJBoy> Cpadolf recreated it exactly != Kej
[2009-04-01 22:46:15] <intercest> Video Maker = Kej
[2009-04-01 22:46:26] <Zhs2> lol
[2009-04-01 22:46:27] <PJBoy> ...
[2009-04-01 22:46:37] <intercest> kej = SM god
[2009-04-01 22:46:44] <PJBoy> noone said Cpadolf was kej!!!!1
[2009-04-01 22:46:53] <Aile> Luigi is better than Mario
[2009-04-01 22:46:54] <intercest> KEJ IS A GOD
[2009-04-01 22:46:57] <Aile> in my opinion
[2009-04-01 22:47:00] <intercest> IT DOESN"T MATTER IF SOMEONE RECREATED IT
[2009-04-01 22:47:01] <intercest> KEJ
[2009-04-01 22:47:02] <intercest> = GOD
[2009-04-01 22:47:07] <GF_Kennon> lol
[2009-04-01 22:47:13] <intercest> WHY THE FUCK NOT JUST MAKE AN SMV OF THE FUCKING SMV?
[2009-04-01 22:47:20] <intercest> AND SEE WHATR TEH FUCK HAPPENS
[2009-04-01 22:47:35] <Bloodsonic> kej IS a god. if he says it's fake, it's fake wether he has proof or not xD
[2009-04-01 22:47:35] * Zhs2 is now playing: "Fairy Night" - Monstania (SNES)
[2009-04-01 22:47:48] <Bloodsonic> also
[2009-04-01 22:48:00] <Bloodsonic> I can't seem to perform the trick either
[2009-04-01 22:48:16] <wat> does cpadolf ever play non FRAME BY FRAME anymore?
[2009-04-01 22:48:23] <wat> or does he do a TAS every time he plays super metroid
[2009-04-01 22:52:54] <intercest> TAS = soo boring
[2009-04-01 22:53:08] <Bloodsonic> ô_ō
[2009-04-01 22:54:16] <Aile> I like TAS'ing Sonic games
[2009-04-01 22:54:25] <Aile> I like TAS's where I can really act the spaz
[2009-04-01 22:54:27] <Aile> :P
[2009-04-01 22:54:41] <Aile> So I more... TA rather than S.
[2009-04-01 22:54:47] <Drewseph> did kej ever release a teaser?
[2009-04-01 22:55:11] <Drewseph> tool assisted segment isn't it?
[2009-04-01 22:55:21] <Bloodsonic> Tool Assisted Speedrun
[2009-04-01 22:55:37] <Bloodsonic> I don't think kej released another teaser... did he?
[2009-04-01 22:56:14] <Bloodsonic> oh. new TAS segment of redesign :O
[2009-04-01 23:05:19] <Bloodsonic> oh my god.
[2009-04-01 23:05:47] <Bloodsonic> that TAS video just taught me that TASers are going to be literally crashing insanity with their pure power.
[2009-04-01 23:06:25] <GF_Kennon> :O
[2009-04-01 23:06:57] <PJBoy> yup
[2009-04-01 23:07:01] <PJBoy> the SRAM is hacked
[2009-04-01 23:08:49] <intercest> lol
[2009-04-01 23:08:59] <GF_Kennon> nice
[2009-04-01 23:09:09] <Zhs2> DOES IT HAVE THE KEJARDON SIGNATURE?
[2009-04-01 23:09:26] <GF_Kennon> XD
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nothing more yet

arkarian

2009-04-01 09:59:35 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from Quietus:

I won't believe it until I see it done by somebody else. There are any number of TASers active here, and any one of them could duplicate this relatively easily

...

...

JaggerG

2009-04-01 11:23:54 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

If you go in the direction of the speedblock.

Kejardon

2009-04-02 12:11:10 am

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

Random notes:
PJBoy says the SRAM was hacked, but didn't say anything more about it.
The RAM looks perfectly clean.
The room looks perfectly normal when checked in a hex-editor.
The block breaks because of 2x1 shot block PLM (uhhhh). The room transitions because a door block was hit.
There is no shot block there. There is no door block there.
I am annoyingly half asleep today. :(

JaggerG

2009-04-02 01:18:23 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

If you go in the direction of the shotblock? But that doesn't make any sense....

Kejardon

2009-04-02 03:51:19 am

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

Incidentally, PJBoy missed an important detail.
I hacked the program bank and counter to execute from SRAM. I booted Super Metroid from SRAM, not ROM.

Also, obligatory 'Windows is stupid':

I don't want to know why this is even possible.

attachment:

GreenChozoMovie.asm

Quietus

2009-04-02 04:22:12 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I had a quick fiddle with the movie, attempting to stop the movie before contacting the block (to regain control of Samus), so that the ball was inside that block, but I only managed to either stop too early or have the room transition occur. Has anybody else attempted this? I didn't try frame advance either. I may do so later.

You know, it would be more amusing if this turned out to be true. Razz

Guardian Garr

Edit history:

Guardian Garr: 2009-04-02 04:31:08 am

2009-04-02 04:27:08 am

Is this block supposed to be possible to break? I was just messing around over there, after I seen this topic, and I happened to break this block. Which won't break again, seemingly, after doing it the first time.

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=breakblock.jpg

EDIT:

I was also shooting at an angle and moving the screen at the same time with all but spazer beam on. Full beam charge.

Quietus

2009-04-02 04:38:25 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

According to all we know, no. If that's legitimate, then it's the same thing that happens to access the Chozo room that this thread is about, as you're supposed to go through the block below that one.

Guardian Garr

Edit history:

Guardian Garr: 2009-04-02 05:08:09 am

2009-04-02 04:41:41 am

Quote from Quietus:

According to all we know, no. If that's legitimate, then it's the same thing that happens to access the Chozo room that this thread is about, as you're supposed to go through the block below that one.

It's legitimate, it isn't hard to do either, so you could do it without wasting your time. You HAVE to shoot at an angle or it won't work. Also, when you shoot at an angle in this room, you will always hear breaking blocks. Only on the right side of the exit door though, in the roof. Other than that block, I haven't found any other ones yet. I also found you can break it more than once and also with just the wave beam on.

EDIT:

I also found the exact spot to shoot it from. You must charge and shoot at an angle. It is basically right when you jump above the platform for the energy tank.

http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=breakspot.jpg

EDIT2:

Also, to prove it wasn't gone, I used the space time gun on the empty area. It works there, to slow the game down instead of hitting something. Only if you shoot at the spot, and not past it where a wall is located.

[quote="Quietus"]
According to all we know, no.  If that's legitimate, then it's the same thing that happens to access the Chozo room that this thread is about, as you're supposed to go through the block below that one.
[/quote]

It's legitimate, it isn't hard to do either, so you could do it without wasting your time. You HAVE to shoot at an angle or it won't work. Also, when you shoot at an angle in this room, you will always hear breaking blocks. Only on the right side of the exit door though, in the roof. Other than that block, I haven't found any other ones yet. I also found you can break it more than once and also with just the wave beam on.

EDIT:

I also found the exact spot to shoot it from. You must charge and shoot at an angle. It is basically right when you jump above the platform for the energy tank.

http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=breakspot.jpg

EDIT2:

Also, to prove it wasn't gone, I used the space time gun on the empty area. It works there, to slow the game down instead of hitting something. Only if you shoot at the spot, and not past it where a wall is located.

P.JMan

2009-04-02 10:29:40 am

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

Yeah, first I done a compare of Cpadolf's SRAM to your 'MikeZ''s SRAM and recognised some ASM code. I done a trace to see why it crashes and noticed it RTLing to SRAM code and thought 'I'm just gonna say it was hacked, don't need to give it away'. I thought some people might have seen 'hacked' as the same way as hacking the ROM

Saturn

2009-04-02 01:20:21 pm

Hmmm, very interesting. This is either a extremely rare glitch, or a excellent and very clever April fools joke.

I tried to get it to work on my own, without copying the starting position and input, and even with Mike's SRAM it didn't work out for me, despite matching all conditions from the glitch-description and AFAIS the position before the wall block that should break.

In any case, I have no logical explanation why the block breaks at all, but it seems to me that it not only depends on the exact position, but also on a specific time you have to break it. That might explain why Cpadol's smv didn't work, despite the exact same position and input.

If this is a joke, then I guess the author of that smv somehow managed to hex something in the SRAM that somehow triggers that block break. This can once again be the position, the timing at the break or when you enter Croc's room, and many more factors that are invisible to 99,9% of people. Because of that, if this is a joke, then it has to be Kejardon who is once again playing with us, as I just can't imagine somebody to be that experienced to hack the SRAM so smartly.

A simple and 100% convincing proof that this glitch is true would be to record the smv again, but this time started from reset, and then just play until you get the needed items, and do this trick again. If this is too much work, then you could just take a 100% TAS, or a unassisted speedrun that is recorded from reset, fast forward to the point you need, and then re-record that trick again.

Would you mind to do that to clear all doubts about your trick, MikeZ or whoever is the author behind that glitch?
Or will Kejardon give up? :-P

Hmmm, very interesting. This is either a extremely rare glitch, or a excellent and very clever April fools joke.

I tried to get it to work on my own, without copying the starting position and input, and even with Mike's SRAM it didn't work out for me, despite matching all conditions from the glitch-description and AFAIS the position before the wall block that should break.

In any case, I have no logical explanation why the block breaks at all, but it seems to me that it not only depends on the exact position, but also on a specific time you have to break it. That might explain why Cpadol's smv didn't work, despite the exact same position and input.

If this is a joke, then I guess the author of that smv somehow managed to hex something in the SRAM that somehow triggers that block break. This can once again be the position, the timing at the break or when you enter Croc's room, and many more factors that are invisible to 99,9% of people. Because of that, if this is a joke, then it has to be Kejardon who is once again playing with us, as I just can't imagine somebody to be that experienced to hack the SRAM so smartly.

A simple and 100% convincing proof that this glitch is true would be to record the smv again, but this time started from reset, and then just play until you get the needed items, and do this trick again. If this is too much work, then you could just take a 100% TAS, or a unassisted speedrun that is recorded from reset, fast forward to the point you need, and then re-record that trick again.

Would you mind to do that to clear all doubts about your trick, MikeZ or whoever is the author behind that glitch?
[size=1pt]Or will Kejardon give up? :-P[/size]

Kejardon

2009-04-02 01:33:08 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

Umm... I already said 'April Fools' in my last post <_<

Quote from Saturn:

I tried to get it to work on my own, without copying the starting position and input, and even with Mike's SRAM it didn't work out for me, despite matching all conditions from the glitch-description and AFAIS the position before the wall block that should break.

Your position isn't right then. The block WILL break if your position is correct, you have blue suit, and you're using the SRAM. Unless you went to a different room than one of those three, in which case the SRAM code will delete itself and return to normal ROM execution.

Quote from P.JMan:

Yeah, first I done a compare of Cpadolf's SRAM to your 'MikeZ''s SRAM and recognised some ASM code. I done a trace to see why it crashes and noticed it RTLing to SRAM code and thought 'I'm just gonna say it was hacked, don't need to give it away'. I thought some people might have seen 'hacked' as the same way as hacking the ROM

Heh, I was wondering if you had noticed that but decided not to give it all away. I was hoping nobody would figure it out at all though and I'd be able to entirely 'prove' the Green Chozo by the end of the day. :/

Quote from Guardian Garr:

Is this block supposed to be possible to break?

Crocamire's glitched blocks. This is VERY well known and has been disassembled to see why it happens (which is a long and technical reason). No, you can't use it to actually do much anything.

Umm... I already said 'April Fools' in my last post <_<

[quote="Saturn"]
I tried to get it to work on my own, without copying the starting position and input, and even with Mike's SRAM it didn't work out for me, despite matching all conditions from the glitch-description and AFAIS the position before the wall block that should break.
[/quote]
Your position isn't right then. The block WILL break if your position is correct, you have blue suit, and you're using the SRAM. Unless you went to a different room than one of those three, in which case the SRAM code will delete itself and return to normal ROM execution.

[quote="P.JMan"]
Yeah, first I done a compare of Cpadolf's SRAM to your 'MikeZ''s SRAM and recognised some ASM code. I done a trace to see why it crashes and noticed it RTLing to SRAM code and thought 'I'm just gonna say it was hacked, don't need to give it away'. I thought some people [i]might[/i] have seen 'hacked' as the same way as hacking the ROM
[/quote]
Heh, I was wondering if you had noticed that but decided not to give it all away. I was hoping nobody would figure it out at all though and I'd be able to entirely 'prove' the Green Chozo by the end of the day. :/

[quote="Guardian Garr"]
Is this block supposed to be possible to break?
[/quote]
Crocamire's glitched blocks. This is VERY well known and has been disassembled to see why it happens (which is a long and technical reason). No, you can't use it to actually do much anything.

Cpadolf

2009-04-02 03:58:20 pm

Almost happy

Quote from Saturn:

I tried to get it to work on my own, without copying the starting position and input, and even with Mike's SRAM it didn't work out for me, despite matching all conditions from the glitch-description and AFAIS the position before the wall block that should break.

Well, just the same pixel does not make it work. As far as my tests concluded you had to have the EXACT same position, right down to the last subpixel. When I first tried to do it I was 1/65535th of a pixel ahead of the starting position, due to having touched a left facing wall before positioning myself instead of a right facing one, and the trick would not work. Time was not a factor though.

Also, how exactly does this work? Just turning the block into a shootblock I would get, but why do you need the exact position to make it work?

squishy_ichigo

2009-04-02 05:38:24 pm

. . .

I figured this was a prank when the vid was on Kejs youtube account, but I didn't expect such an ellaberate prank!

Good job once again Kejardon! I wait until next years April Fools!

Saturn

2009-04-02 07:51:53 pm

Quote from Kejardon:

Umm... I already said 'April Fools' in my last post <_<

Oops, didn't notice the subject line, as I was kind of in a rush when posting it. I highly expected this to be a joke though, mainly because you gave it away with your YouTube account. Create a different one next time. :-P
Other than that I have to say your april fools ideas are always amazing. Thanks for taking the time and effort to plan and execute them out so well.

As for the trick, I see now. It's really amazing that it only works with a absolute exact subpixel position. I didn't enter any other room to clear the code, but of course I didn't use memory watch for it when trying myself, and only roughly optimized it on the visual level.

And I agree with Cpadolf, it would be cool if you could explain why the position needs to be that exactly, and how you managed to make a seemingly normal block suddenly break out of nowhere if all the conditions are met. This crazy stuff is just beyond my understanding...

[quote="Kejardon"]
Umm... I already said 'April Fools' in my last post <_<
[/quote]
Oops, didn't notice the subject line, as I was kind of in a rush when posting it. I highly expected this to be a joke though, mainly because you gave it away with your YouTube account. Create a different one next time. :-P
Other than that I have to say your april fools ideas are always amazing. Thanks for taking the time and effort to plan and execute them out so well.

As for the trick, I see now. It's really amazing that it only works with a absolute exact subpixel position. I didn't enter any other room to clear the code, but of course I didn't use memory watch for it when trying myself, and only roughly optimized it on the visual level.

And I agree with Cpadolf, it would be cool if you could explain why the position needs to be that exactly, and how you managed to make a seemingly normal block suddenly break out of nowhere if all the conditions are met. This crazy stuff is just beyond my understanding...

Kejardon

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Kejardon: 2009-04-02 09:25:59 pm

2009-04-02 09:21:58 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

haha, I had a whole routine planned out between me and MikeZ when people started figuring out it was me, where it would be stupidly obviously we were the same person but we'd both be denying it. The whole point was to keep people thinking they figured it out (Kej is doing the same thing he did with the NBMB run) while giving me an excuse to not give many details about it during April 1st. I forgot to account for how little M2K2 bites whenever I pull an April Fools though (seriously, the caption for the logbook was clearly unrelated to the picture, it should have been obvious I accidentally posted the wrong picture), so it moved pretty slowly and I never got to acting that out. I feel like I ended up dragging the whole thing out myself this year... and then PJBoy went and kinda foiled it. :(

Quote from Cpadolf:

Also, how exactly does this work? Just turning the block into a shootblock I would get, but why do you need the exact position to make it work?

Keep in mind I have control of the main game loop. In assembly. I can tell it to do ANYTHING I want it to do. So I told it to create a 2x1 shotblock PLM in Crocomire's room when Samus's position is EXACTLY this and she has blue suit. Then to run the door block code when Samus's position was inside the next block. Then it modified the results of the door block code and loaded the door and room data into RAM to be used by the room transition routines.

Fun fact: The movie took me several tries to get working, because often when I changed the code the movie would end up with Samus at a sliiiightly different position. >_> This is actually why I didn't get both super missiles... when I first recorded the movie I actually did but the movie desynced after hacking.

haha, I had a whole routine planned out between me and MikeZ when people started figuring out it was me, where it would be stupidly obviously we were the same person but we'd both be denying it. The whole point was to keep people thinking they figured it out (Kej is doing the same thing he did with the NBMB run) while giving me an excuse to not give many details about it during April 1st. I forgot to account for how little M2K2 bites whenever I pull an April Fools though (seriously, the caption for the logbook was [i]clearly[/i] unrelated to the picture, it should have been obvious I accidentally posted the wrong picture), so it moved pretty slowly and I never got to acting that out. I feel like I ended up dragging the whole thing out myself this year... and then PJBoy went and kinda foiled it. :(

[quote="Cpadolf"]
Also, how exactly does this work? Just turning the block into a shootblock I would get, but why do you need the exact position to make it work?
[/quote]

Keep in mind I have control of the main game loop. In assembly. I can tell it to do ANYTHING I want it to do. So I told it to create a 2x1 shotblock PLM in Crocomire's room when Samus's position is EXACTLY this and she has blue suit. Then to run the door block code when Samus's position was inside the next block. Then it modified the results of the door block code and loaded the door and room data into RAM to be used by the room transition routines.

Fun fact: The movie took me several tries to get working, because often when I changed the code the movie would end up with Samus at a sliiiightly different position. >_> This is actually why I didn't get both super missiles... when I first recorded the movie I actually did but the movie desynced after hacking.

Gaius_4

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Gaius_4: 2009-04-03 03:35:00 pm

2009-04-03 03:22:09 pm

Ha!

I'm a beleevah! extra_smug

Edit: Wait. I replied from reading the 1st page (and just watched the SMV). Guess I'll go back and see what the real scoop is. :-P

Edit: Drat! Embarassed

Zeke

2009-04-03 05:07:58 pm

Time bomb set get out fast!

Excellent gag, Kejardon. It's a pity you didn't get to do the whole routine you had planned. I have a long history of doing April Fool's stunts at my site, one of which involved a fake forum poster as well (I had two browsers open so I could do a running debate). And no matter how ridiculous I make them, there's always at least one person who buys it. You got several here -- and I count having even the slightest doubt as falling for it, since MikeZ's rumours have been so thoroughly debunked.

Quote from Kejardon:

Keep in mind I have control of the main game loop. In assembly. I can tell it to do ANYTHING I want it to do. So I told it to create a 2x1 shotblock PLM in Crocomire's room when Samus's position is EXACTLY this and she has blue suit.

Heh, yeah, 'cause anybody with "control of the main game loop" could just do that. See my new sig quote.

By the way, if anybody got deja vu from my post earlier, here's why.

Excellent gag, Kejardon.  It's a pity you didn't get to do the whole routine you had planned.  I have a long history of doing April Fool's stunts at my site, one of which involved a fake forum poster as well (I had two browsers open so I could do a running debate).  And no matter how ridiculous I make them, there's always at least [i]one[/i] person who buys it.  You got several here -- and I count having even the slightest doubt as falling for it, since MikeZ's rumours have been so thoroughly debunked.

[quote="Kejardon"]Keep in mind I have control of the main game loop. In assembly. I can tell it to do ANYTHING I want it to do. So I told it to create a 2x1 shotblock PLM in Crocomire's room when Samus's position is EXACTLY this and she has blue suit.[/quote]

Heh, yeah, 'cause [i]anybody[/i] with "control of the main game loop" could just do that.  See my new sig quote.

By the way, if anybody got deja vu from my post earlier, [url=http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php/topic,1643.msg52306.html#msg52306]here's why[/url].

Kejardon

2009-04-03 06:45:09 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

Quote from Gaius_4:

Ha!

I'm a beleevah! extra_smug

Edit: Wait. I replied from reading the 1st page (and just watched the SMV). Guess I'll go back and see what the real scoop is. :-P
Edit: Drat! Embarassed

Nice to see the tradition of fooling people AFTER I've fessed up is still going too. :D

Gaius_4

2009-04-04 03:44:22 pm

Quote from Kejardon:

Nice to see the tradition of people not reading after the first page is still going too. :D

SkippyJr

2009-04-05 12:24:15 am

I always believed you MikeZ! <3 <3 <3

So what did you do to get the green-ness and Chozo-ness to match the old rumor? Did you custom code the "room" yourself or point to some preexisting data? Nice work!

aigamerDS

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aigamerDS: 2009-04-05 04:41:25 am

2009-04-05 03:13:43 am

Good work Mike! I just played your smv and it actually worked.

How did you discovered this glitch? Did you just mess around until you accidentally discover this?

Quote from Kejardon:

Quote from Gaius_4:

Ha!

I'm a beleevah! extra_smug

Edit: Wait. I replied from reading the 1st page (and just watched the SMV). Guess I'll go back and see what the real scoop is. :-P
Edit: Drat! Embarassed

Nice to see the tradition of fooling people AFTER I've fessed up is still going too. :D

I'm about to fall for that too.

Sneaky Paradox

2009-04-05 10:43:54 am

What a cool joke lol. <3 Kej.