Late Long? We all have seriously got to get on Dragonfangs's level. Gratz on the PB, man!
only scrubs get late long beam
seriously though, gratz on the sub-hour time :D
seriously though, gratz on the sub-hour time :D
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53:14 100% SS. I used the same delayed ice route as in the 52:38. It got pretty good after Tourian, but the first half was atrocious. At least it beats 53:56, though.
ZX and Mobius: Thanks for the description of the AWS route as it currently stands; that saved me some confusion. I'll hopefully try it in a quick segmented run soon.
ZX and Mobius: Thanks for the description of the AWS route as it currently stands; that saved me some confusion. I'll hopefully try it in a quick segmented run soon.
Here's the 53:17 from today's race. Sure, it's 3 seconds slower than the 53:14, but I liked this run more.
My favorite part was the spaceboost starting at about 1:04:45; that landing looks like it must've been frame perfect, or at least close to it.
The most painful error was probably at 26:45, when I jumped too soon and landed instead of breaking the speedboost blocks near the Ridley map room.
My favorite part was the spaceboost starting at about 1:04:45; that landing looks like it must've been frame perfect, or at least close to it.
The most painful error was probably at 26:45, when I jumped too soon and landed instead of breaking the speedboost blocks near the Ridley map room.
Eventually, yeah. The spaceboost to the Kraid zipline missile during cleanup seems slightly hazardous, but once I actually try it out that route shouldn't be bad at all. I had originally thought I wouldn't delay the long beam in SS runs, but now I really see no reason not to try it; I think the worst part would be doing the hive room without long beam, and I've gotten plenty of practice at that in any%.
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My comments your segmented run (52:38)
I am sure Spidey could get sub 52 minutes (at least segmented run). I surprised how much mistakes his runs includes (52:38). I see some big mistakes like this Ridley lair falling & missed chozodia shinespark, both cost total at least 10 seconds or even more. Also Kraid look like unoptimize, IMO Kirby make firing this down faster. But yeah 52:38 was mostly awesome run. Last escape went so mad well. I always thinking 4:04 is absolutely human max here. You make it nearly 2 seconds faster here than my super optimize escape ever. Your speedskills are so high here. Also i loved your MB fight & tourian escape both seems flawlsess.
I´ll watch your SS run later this week. 53:17 seems awesome time without using any savepoints. Segmented run was also truly great, but i´ll see with more crazy patient you could definitely beat it. You need just avoid these big mistakes and make learn more aggressive Kraid kill (this is first part your segment so its not real pain reset here, i think). These looks most important time savers. Some refill luck could be better for example taking full missiles before hive room, better refill luck Tourian metroids & etc... Chozo boss went without miss shots, but more RNG make faster appeared diagrams save some seconds time. IMO your two last diagrams appeared quite slowly, but thats not your fault. But yeah 51.xx seems nearly super crazy goal. But i see you have potential make it. Not just give up and keep going.
I am sure Spidey could get sub 52 minutes (at least segmented run). I surprised how much mistakes his runs includes (52:38). I see some big mistakes like this Ridley lair falling & missed chozodia shinespark, both cost total at least 10 seconds or even more. Also Kraid look like unoptimize, IMO Kirby make firing this down faster. But yeah 52:38 was mostly awesome run. Last escape went so mad well. I always thinking 4:04 is absolutely human max here. You make it nearly 2 seconds faster here than my super optimize escape ever. Your speedskills are so high here. Also i loved your MB fight & tourian escape both seems flawlsess.
I´ll watch your SS run later this week. 53:17 seems awesome time without using any savepoints. Segmented run was also truly great, but i´ll see with more crazy patient you could definitely beat it. You need just avoid these big mistakes and make learn more aggressive Kraid kill (this is first part your segment so its not real pain reset here, i think). These looks most important time savers. Some refill luck could be better for example taking full missiles before hive room, better refill luck Tourian metroids & etc... Chozo boss went without miss shots, but more RNG make faster appeared diagrams save some seconds time. IMO your two last diagrams appeared quite slowly, but thats not your fault. But yeah 51.xx seems nearly super crazy goal. But i see you have potential make it. Not just give up and keep going.
finally broke the 56!
-My previous PB had an amazing cleanup. This new PB kept up very well, only losing about 10 seconds total.
-Saved a ton of time over previous PB's first half. Still had two bad mistakes though, missing a puzzle room in Ridley and missing a shine for the first super missile tank :S
Ugh, got a new PB, but not satisfied at all. I was a few seconds behind my old time after first escape, and the stealth section was a little rough (lost maybe 5 seconds there), but everything from that point on went really good. Until the final spark. I got the perfect charge, went on to the next room, and screwed up the second spin-jump, getting a shinespark instead... so, there goes that.
54:40 anyway. But goddamn.
54:40 anyway. But goddamn.
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Huh very nice times guys. 
I am little envious im not never learn play skilful like this. My fingers can,t move fast like you guys. But i´ll look forvard how well you guys could play that game. Thats really awesome. Everybody are crushed current SDA run which is also really good speedrun.
I am little envious im not never learn play skilful like this. My fingers can,t move fast like you guys. But i´ll look forvard how well you guys could play that game. Thats really awesome. Everybody are crushed current SDA run which is also really good speedrun.
53:43, I'm done with ZM attempts for the time being, I can't improve this run at all. I had the second best time I've ever had at Kraid (8:01), and I was at 28:25 after the first escape. I missed one shot on the Guardian, but he gave me a fast pattern outside of the slow first shot, so I didn't really lose time there. Other big mistakes were tinking like 7 Supers on Mecha, losing a couple seconds on Imago Cocoon and grabbing the map on Chozodia... beyond that, it was just small errors which cost me seconds here and there.
Also, I got all the nice time savers in the entire run, including that pillar room Shinespark before Wave Beam :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/8459/metroidzeromission28042.png
Also, I got all the nice time savers in the entire run, including that pillar room Shinespark before Wave Beam :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/8459/metroidzeromission28042.png
Major congrats for getting 53:xx; that's a big milestone. This was with the delayed Kraid cleanup route, correct? When did you get the long beam and charge beam?
I was surprised as well. I would've thought sub 53 would at least be somewhat difficult to get. It will certainly be interesting to see what kinds of times a segmented run can get through extreme optimization and an AWS route.
Speaking of which....I'm not going to be able to do a test run with that AWS route for at least another week. Sorry about that. >_<
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I surprised how much mistakes his runs includes (52:38).
I was surprised as well. I would've thought sub 53 would at least be somewhat difficult to get. It will certainly be interesting to see what kinds of times a segmented run can get through extreme optimization and an AWS route.
Speaking of which....I'm not going to be able to do a test run with that AWS route for at least another week. Sorry about that. >_<