PC version speed-run for SDA

2010-07-06 11:13:03 pm

Um how is the R-dash in Metroid Prime when from the description that I saw it's in MP2?

Please answer that for me.

2010-07-06 11:24:54 pm

it's in metroid prime. basically, you dash normally, except you hold down l the whole time and you press and hold r right after you dash.

playe

2010-07-06 11:28:58 pm

Ah okay.

But I don't see how that'd work in the PC version unless you use the Seedling or Beetle.

And how does it affect the dash anyway? I'm starting to get curious.

BioSpark

2010-07-06 11:31:51 pm

try it out. it's similar to the "normal" dash, but it sorta pushes you back a bit. the best way to find out is to experiment.

playe

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playe: 2010-07-07 12:11:31 am

2010-07-06 11:34:36 pm

Quote from BioSpark:

try it out. it's similar to the "normal" dash, but it sorta pushes you back a bit. the best way to find out is to experiment.

Alright I will try it out.

Back on topic I still can't get the bomb jump down, or the L-jump method either.

And Baby Sheegoth hasn't been on MSN so I might need help from someone else.

I might record a video of me trying out both methods, and you guys can tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Edit: the videos are in the bottom post.

playe

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playe: 2010-07-07 12:23:22 am

playe: 2010-07-07 12:13:18 am

2010-07-07 12:13:01 am

Bomb Jumping method

L-Jump Method

tate

2010-07-07 12:26:44 am

why not do this http://www.youtube.com/user/MisterShinChan#p/u/77/LbCCPlwDgNI

playe

2010-07-07 12:31:13 am

R-Jump huh? didn't know that was another method.

I will try it out, and hope that it's easier.

juliano6010

2010-07-07 06:25:21 am

MisterShinChan is a master of this type of jumps. They are very hard, I can´t do it...
But if you want to arrive this place,l you can do it:

Sorry for the quality.

playe

2010-07-07 03:08:54 pm

I thank you for the video, but could you please record a video of the timing of the buttons? (i.e record the controller as you do the SB)

If so then that'd help me out a lot.

tomatobob

2010-07-07 05:12:37 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

http://www.metroid2002.com/without_spider_twin_fires_tunnel.php

Quote from the fucking site you're on:

Be sure to lay the third bomb in the Double Bomb Jump after you have begun descending from the first Bomb's explosion.

T3

2010-07-07 09:10:39 pm

I think unmorphing later than usual helps a lot from what i remember.

juliano6010

2010-07-08 06:32:22 am

Quote from playe:

I thank you for the video, but could you please record a video of the timing of the buttons? (i.e record the controller as you do the SB)

If so then that'd help me out a lot.

I think that with the tomatobob´s explanation you can already know how to do it, no? Wink

But...one question: Have you already talked in the forum of speeddemosarchive if they accept your run?

playe

2010-07-08 03:09:50 pm

Quote from juliano6010:

Quote from playe:

I thank you for the video, but could you please record a video of the timing of the buttons? (i.e record the controller as you do the SB)

If so then that'd help me out a lot.

I think that with the tomatobob´s explanation you can already know how to do it, no? Wink

But...one question: Have you already talked in the forum of speeddemosarchive if they accept your run?

Yes I can do it now thanks to T3.

And yes I've already posted a thread on SDA talking about my run, and some actually told me to track a 0-00 version, and run that, which I won't do.

Anyway I've finally gotten the DBJ method down so back to recording my run!

btw is there another method to getting to the Ice Beam door in MQ if all the Metroids died? 'cause I'm going to get the Spider Ball after I get the Phazon Suit, but I'm finding this to be a little harder.

T3

2010-07-08 03:21:42 pm

There is a hidden ledge above the spider ball track but that may only be in the pal version. Using a metroid to dash is far easier anyway.

playe

2010-07-10 05:23:41 am

Well from the amount of mistakes that I see in each segment I can tell that the run as it is won't get approved by SDA so I guess it's back to the old drawing board.

If you guys want I can post the segments here so that you can see what I mean.

juliano6010

2010-07-10 11:56:20 am

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Yes I can do it now thanks to T3.

Yes?! Well, because I want to do a record in this game! In adittion, my idea of PBMAX% haven´t been rejected...
Now, I can try to record a run in PC´version Very Happy

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Well from the amount of mistakes that I see in each segment I can tell that the run as it is won't get approved by SDA so I guess it's back to the old drawing board.

Sure? Because speeddemosarchive accept some mistakes if the run is long.

Kharay1977

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Kharay1977: 2010-07-10 12:01:41 pm

2010-07-10 12:00:14 pm

Quote from juliano6010:

In adittion, my idea of PBMAX% haven´t been rejected...

Hasn't been rejected from where? Because, it definitely was rejected by SDA as a valid category.

juliano6010

2010-07-10 12:20:49 pm

Ñaaa! It´s almost the same Laughing

Kharay1977

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Kharay1977: 2010-07-10 12:25:33 pm

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Kharay1977: 2010-07-10 12:24:09 pm

2010-07-10 12:23:43 pm

Quote from juliano6010:

Ñaaa! It´s almost the same Laughing

That... makes very little sense.

For the record:

Quote from Breakdown, Administrator on SDA:

this category will not be accepted by SDA.

About your PBMax%.

UchihaSasuke

2010-07-10 05:35:22 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

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Sure? Because speeddemosarchive accept some mistakes if the run is long.

only if it is a SS. segmented runs must have each segment as best as it can be done.

arkarian

2010-07-10 06:02:30 pm

red chamber dream

well ... sort of. there's mistakes in every run, including all the segmented prime runs that have ever been on sda.

UchihaSasuke

2010-07-11 12:56:35 am

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

i was thinking of mistakes that costed you lots of time. things like 1-2 or even 3 second losses are in any run. i got the impression that the current progress in the PC version had mistakes much bigger than that.

playe

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playe: 2010-07-15 01:55:40 am

2010-07-15 01:51:18 am

Segment 1:

Well here's segment 1 of my re-done speed-run (wow I rhymed!)

I just want feed-back from you guys on where I could improve as my run comes along.
btw YT killed the quality of my video sadly.

arkarian

2010-07-15 02:41:19 am

red chamber dream

i'm getting sound mostly on the left channel in that vid. if you're planning on submitting this to sda you might want to submit a quality test first and make sure the problem's been fixed.