New glitched any% TAS finished.

2009-04-07 07:35:47 am

Almost happy

I improved the old glitched up run from last year by about 25 seconds yadayada nothing much more to say about it here.

My comments and descriptions of the run here, and an avi of the run will be available through there once the run is published (once it is you will have a link to the actual publication page of the movie located in the information box to the right).

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HQ Video with cutscenes eddited out. Turn of the audio and add some music on this one, becasue the audio desyncs.

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Guardian Garr

2009-04-10 01:37:33 am

The only thing I can think of to make the time even faster is if you can find a way to exit the room before the xray room by xray exiting and warping somewhere nearby to the other side. Might not save a ton of time, but I believe it would get you under 12 min.

Cpadolf

2009-04-10 06:32:58 am

Almost happy

Nope. First of all it does not work, the only door block close enough that I have found get's you stuck in the wall in the next room. Second, it takes about as long as running through the whole room to just X-ray yourself far enough so that you can actually start moving around. Third, to reach 00:11 I need to save about 12 seconds.

Guardian Garr

2009-04-10 05:27:32 pm

I guess I was wrong than =)

I am still looking into it. I don't care what you say, I will find something eventually.

Cpadolf

2009-04-10 05:40:04 pm

Almost happy

Quote from Guardian Garr:

I will find something eventually.

As far some new trick or a completely new way through a room goes, I doubt it at this point... But go ahead and prove me wrong.

Guardian Garr

2009-04-10 08:34:09 pm

Quote from Cpadolf:

Quote from Guardian Garr:

I will find something eventually.

As far some new trick or a completely new way through a room goes, I doubt it at this point... But go ahead and prove me wrong.

Well, I have no proof just yet. Honestly though, I have a very good theory... At least I think it is.

Ok, even though I know you or Kej is going to have something to say about this, but when you edit the Save Room with SMILE, it edits all save rooms in the game. So, would this not link all the save rooms? I am thinking maybe you could find a way to reach another room... Such as the one before motherbrain.

Cpadolf

2009-04-10 08:59:48 pm

Almost happy

I'm pretty confident that you can only travel between rooms that are directly connected with a door transition (I remember Kejardon talking about warping theoretically being possible in the game though, but that he had not found any instance where it was possible to actually do. Or something like that).

Anyway, I think that if it was plausible that it could have worked Kejardon would have tested for it when he first made the statue room skip possible.

Guardian Garr

2009-04-10 09:19:51 pm

Well, I hope he tests it. Since he is much more qualified than I am to test it. I would definitely do it myself if it weren't so hard for me to do.

Kejardon

2009-04-11 01:08:34 am

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Many save rooms have identical tile layouts, so instead of having separate copies of the tile layout, they use the same copy of the tiles. There is no link from one save room to the other though.

It is theoretically possible to warp from one room to an 'unconnected' room by an overflowed reading happening to equal an actual door value. There are no cases of this in the original ROM, I don't think.. I'm pretty sure I eventually did check that at one point. However, it's also possible to use RAM as door data, and warp to a room generated from garbage data... but I've never seen that NOT crash. The only real feasible thing would be to use RAM as door data to warp to an existing room. I haven't looked into this though, it's a long shot and a lot of data to sift through.

Guardian Garr

2009-04-11 01:53:25 am

Well, that would be interesting if it worked. It would likely open a lot more possibilities. A ton of room hopping that's for sure.