Metroid Fusion Japanese Version

2008-09-23 11:36:31 pm

Its just me, or does she look like Ayla from chrono trigger in this pic?

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/gba/c/mfjh-3.png

and i think i fell in love again *o*

TJF588

2008-09-24 03:41:13 am

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LOL< hotlink-blocked! Still, I know what pic you're talking about, and now that you mention it, yeah, she kinda does. Well, at least I now have some rationalization for the noticably different look of her there..

ZephyrZx

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ZephyrZx: 2008-09-24 11:59:33 am

2008-09-24 11:56:32 am

Bastards, you can't link to pictures... :< ill just save em to my computer :D

Edit: crap, the links from the site itself are dead...

Luna_Aran

2008-09-24 12:36:22 pm

Super Metroid Addict

Lol... I wish I could buy japanese versions here in Portugal...*sigh*

Zhs2

2008-09-24 01:19:11 pm

Yo.

Quote from Luna_Aran:

Lol... I wish I could buy Japanese versions here in Portugal...*sigh*

Actually, you can. It isn't called "mail-order over the internet" for nothing. :P

uNsane

2008-09-24 04:02:07 pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I searched for the Japanese Metroid Fusion a while back and found absolutely nothing at all.

Serris

2008-09-27 03:46:18 am

Me beating a Normal <2h any% game, recorded from power-on. As you can I see, I didn't get the ending I'm apparently supposed to get - http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/m4/mfend3njp.png

I really hope I'm missing something that solves my problem, but it doesn't seem like it.

TJF588

2008-09-27 03:04:20 pm

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Perhaps you have a pirated copy? I was in a GameStop, and the guy honestly didn't think something fishy about a LeafGreen that wasn't green (I called him out on it and he said that he's seen ones come like that from Wal-Mart, though I'm now (maybe even earlier) wondering just how from-the-shelf soon he'd seen such copies), but a quick check of the connectors showed a painfully obvious fake.

Serris

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Serris: 2008-09-27 04:03:20 pm

2008-09-27 03:15:05 pm

I got it new from Play-Asia, and there was nothing suspicious about it, but if you tell me what to check, I can do that.

Edit: I also used this cartridge to unlock the Fusion gallery in my JP MZM (also from Play-Asia), and it worked without any problems. Can you do that with a pirated copy?

TJF588

2008-09-27 04:28:23 pm

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*shrugs* I'd expect the thing to work as the ROM would, but maybe there was some sort of incomplete overwrite or something. Anyway, check the label to see if the image looks different, if the Nintendo Seal looks off, and if there's any indented numbers (tilt it so that light sheens off of it, allowing the indents to be clearly discerned). On the inside, if there's no Nintendo logo on the board, or if it generally doesn't look like other legit boards, then you've got a stinker (the LeafGreen I spotted didn't have any markup aside from the contact strips and the empty indent of the board). On the back, again check for consistency with other carts/paks, and especially for instances of "Nintondo" or other such.

Serris

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Serris: 2008-09-28 12:59:08 pm

2008-09-28 08:29:56 am

Can you tell from these pics?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8403/mf1rx2.png
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8025/mf2uh6.png
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4584/mf3mu4.png

Edit: More pics

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3105/mf4sp1.png
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6721/mf5dp7.png

Edit2: I asked mdb for more opinions:

http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1388

Looks like my game is legit after all, but still no solution.

BioSpark

2008-09-28 02:06:50 pm

Your copy is exactly like mine, so nothing is wrong there.

Serris

2008-09-28 02:12:26 pm

Have you gotten all endings, or any of those I don't have?

BioSpark

2008-09-28 02:37:12 pm

I have the toy one where they are hanging on the shelf.

Serris

2008-09-28 02:52:49 pm

Do you still know how you got it?

Quote from mdb:

BONUS GALLERY IMAGES
After beating the game once on any difficulty, you unlock a Gallery.
The Gallery comes with your ending and 2 bonus images, seen here.

http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/m4/bonus1.png
http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/m4/bonus2.png

According to this, you should have both ...

BioSpark

2008-09-28 05:31:30 pm

I don't have the first one.

TJF588

2008-09-28 06:08:52 pm

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Because it's a page break, I read this as "the first version of JP Fusion". Is there any chance that there was some run, even minor, of M4 games that didn't include the extras? I mean, there were some copies of NA FFVII that used "Aerith" as a default.

Serris

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Serris: 2008-09-29 11:09:22 am

2008-09-28 06:31:15 pm

I bought the game only last year, so I don't think that's very likely.

Edit:

Quote from CapCom @ mdb:

Well, here's a scan I took of the Japanese Fusion guide. It should tell you everything you need to know to get the ending:

http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/m4/MF_Endings.jpg

Over 4 hours, any %
2-4 hours, any %
under 2 hours, any %
over 2 hours, 100%
under 2 hours, 100%
1%

Heh, glad I scanned this! Endings are also based on if you have easy, medium, or hard, and if you are playing with Kanji or 'kid' (Hiragana) mode (don't ask me why... -_-;).

Apparently, there are 13 different endings?! We never actually got confirmation on this (or at least what image corresponds with what), but check the numbers and see what it says. Looks like more was changed in the Japanese version than we thought! If this is the case, we should really include this information on the MDb...

There are actually endings for 1% Normal and Hard ... wow.

TJF588

2008-09-30 02:52:47 am

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Wow... Jeez... but, HA, there's a way to avoid that 1%! Not quite as smrt as you thought you were, eh, Ninty? Still near impossible to get normally, but that it's possible within the restrictions of the game's programming makes it to laugh.

Serris

2008-09-30 11:25:24 am

Well, they never said you can't get less than 1% (unless they did (possibly in the Player's Guide scan, but I wouldn't know)), it's just the ending requirement. After all, you don't have to get 9/10% in MZM for the low% ending - unusually cruel to deny people even a single % of leeway.

By the way, has anyone ever managed to get 0% on console?

uNsane

2008-09-30 03:44:45 pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote from Serris:

By the way, has anyone ever managed to get 0% on console?

No. It's extremely difficult to even get into the second room with the charge on console, much less get the spark. PJ has found there to be .1 seconds of leeway in the bob skip.

Also, just so you know, it's entirely intended to get bob; if you don't pick it up by the time you get super missiles (?), it disappears.

Serris

2008-09-30 05:42:56 pm

Oh, okay. I always thought implementing only a single mandatory and seemingly pointless expansion had to be a mistake, but apparently not. Weird.

Also, you really need some kind of m2k2-insider-terms-dictionary for all the bobs and Iron Teds and whatever. ;)

TJF588

2008-09-30 06:51:52 pm

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Quote from Serris:

Also, you really need some kind of m2k2-insider-terms-dictionary for all the bobs and Iron Teds and whatever. ;)

"Glossary" or "Lexicon" is the word here ("lexicon" I pull from my time as an avid BIONICLE fan). I would appreciate such a thing, too, especially considering my confusion between TBJ and 3BJ.

Serris

2008-10-03 06:20:56 am

Okay, looks like I can't even beat Nightmare on 1% Normal. Any advice?

ZephyrZx

2008-10-03 04:08:09 pm

wait, how do you refill missiles in this game against the bosses? i know the X-Cores gives X's, but the boss itself?