Low% all collectables?

2013-06-20 04:24:00 pm

I love watching speed runs, Metroid Prime most of all. I love low% because you get to see the runners use every possible trick but I also love 100% because you get to see the runner go through every part of the map. What I'd love to see is a low% run while collecting every Missile/Power Bomb Expansion and Energy Tank. Clearly you wouldn't need the optional upgrades like Wavebuster or the useless Grapple Beam, but could you get every expansion and skip the "mandatory" stuff like the Boost Ball or Super Missiles?

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Hazel

2013-06-20 04:50:38 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Um...

kirbymastah

2013-06-20 05:29:51 pm

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Um...

arkarian

2013-06-20 05:39:50 pm

red chamber dream

wat

Skull64

2013-06-20 06:27:00 pm

You could skip Varia in low%100%

Prime Hunter

2013-06-20 09:46:13 pm

The only thing I can get out of this is somebody doing a low% run and using all of the tricks and tactics involved, but also collecting as many expansions as possible while doing so? Would make for a weird run at the very least.

Pawbdr

2013-06-21 12:42:47 am

I could see maybe doing a "collectibles" run under low% conditions if that's what you're trying to get at. Or a max% with low% conditions. Don't think anyone's going to record or stream a run like this either. Low% also means fight all bosses with no health or ammo so that sort of falls under low% conditions so pretty much beat all bosses under low% conditions then without collecting any major upgrade collect all expansions.
Kappa

sabata2

2013-06-21 01:12:00 am

ANKOKU

Now that you've explained what that run would "mean", that sounds really silly.

MASTER-88

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2013-06-21 04:11:33 am

Speedrunner

This is fun topic.

Did you mean low-% with natural route? IIRC Zoid did one casual low-% run 29% items without used sequence breaking (you can find this in speedrun collection. Okay i´ll post link

http://archive.org/details/MetroidPrime_NoSB_29p_153

Currently real low-% without out of bounds tricks are 22 & 23% items. Its requires tons sequence breaks especially 22% run where you skip boost ball which is really hard one. 21% is also possible (skipping space boots) but its requires tons OOB trick and insane amount skills only few peoples into world are beat. Famous names: Miles, T3 & paraxade.

Daryoshi

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2013-06-23 02:50:34 pm

loving low%

Are you thinking of a run in which you get every ME, E-T, PBE and all 3 optional Charge Combos (Wavebuster, Ice Spreader and Flamethrower), but without collecting Thermal Visor, Grapple Beam, Gravity Suit, Super Missile, Charge Beam, Spider Ball and Boost Ball, but WITH collecting Space Jump Boots (as first item and upgrade), Morph Ball, Morph Ball Bombs, Varia Suit, Wave Beam, Ice Beam, Main Power Bombs, Plasma Beam, X-Ray Visor and Phazon Suit & Phazon Beam (which btw doesn't count towards your collectibles percentage, unless you collect EVERY other item) and the 12 Artifacts?!?

That does indeed sound like it'd be an interesting run to do and watch, but I HIGHLY doubt you can collect EVERY item in a run in which you completely skip SB and BB, especially while NOT using (a) Secret World(s) either. And, just hypothetical; WITHOUT SJB, you could barely collect ANY item, seen as SJB are such a "non-optional" upgrade many, many rooms and almost every situation gets "sticky" without SJB.

For a "22%" with AS MANY collectibles AS POSSIBLE: Have fun collecting the MC in Life Grove Tunnel and then bomb jump your way out of Life Grove Tunnel (again)! Wink

No, but seriously; there're gonna be MANY collectibles which are HARD or IMPOSSIBLE (in-bounds) or even impossible AT ALL!
But with wallcrawling, Floaty Jump and IS, you can collect almost every item in Chozo Ruins BEFORE having gone to Magmoor Caverns (IIRC, there were only 3 items left in Chozo Ruins, 2 of them were the Artifact of Lifegiver (WB needed) and the Artifact of World (PlB needed) , as I did in a "special walkthrough" which I started a few months ago.

Btw, I sent you a personal message (as you're new here, you probably wouldn't have noticed; it's in the upper right corner).

Are you thinking of a run in which you get every ME, E-T, PBE and all 3 optional Charge Combos (Wavebuster, Ice Spreader and Flamethrower), but without collecting Thermal Visor, Grapple Beam, Gravity Suit, Super Missile, Charge Beam, Spider Ball and Boost Ball, but WITH collecting Space Jump Boots (as first item and upgrade), Morph Ball, Morph Ball Bombs, Varia Suit, Wave Beam, Ice Beam, Main Power Bombs, Plasma Beam, X-Ray Visor and Phazon Suit & Phazon Beam (which btw doesn't count towards your collectibles percentage, unless you collect EVERY other item) and the 12 Artifacts?!?

That does indeed sound like it'd be an interesting run to do and watch, but I HIGHLY doubt you can collect EVERY item in a run in which you completely skip SB and BB, especially while NOT using (a) Secret World(s) either. And, just hypothetical; WITHOUT SJB, you could barely collect ANY item, seen as SJB are such a "non-optional" upgrade many, many rooms and almost every situation gets "sticky" without SJB.

For a "22%"  with AS MANY collectibles AS POSSIBLE: Have fun collecting the MC in Life Grove Tunnel and then bomb jump your way out of Life Grove Tunnel (again)! :wink:
No, but seriously; there're gonna be MANY collectibles which are HARD or IMPOSSIBLE (in-bounds) or even impossible AT ALL!
But with wallcrawling, Floaty Jump and IS, you can collect almost every item in Chozo Ruins BEFORE having gone to Magmoor Caverns (IIRC, there were only 3 items left in Chozo Ruins, 2 of them were the Artifact of Lifegiver (WB needed) and the Artifact of World (PlB needed) , as I did in a "special walkthrough" which I started a few months ago.

Btw, I sent you a personal message (as you're new here, you probably wouldn't have noticed; it's in the upper right corner).

Pawbdr

2013-06-23 03:08:05 pm

I could see this more possible with SW's than if not I don't know where is says without SW's anywhere. Also I can see it still being possible without Space jump because technically that is still skipped in 21%. If u know of any in particular you can't ceiling warp into or IS to get or use bomb jumps to secret ledges then prove me wrong but I can't think of anything you shouldn't be able to get

Daryoshi

2013-06-23 04:09:27 pm

loving low%

I exaggerated a bit as I wrote about "barely ANY item without SJB", but, well, at least it should be freaking hard to collect most of the harder ones WITHOUT going out-of bounds or using IS (escaping from the wall is only possible with BB afaik, and the only spot I know of, where you can escape from the wall (without BB) is Lava Pool?! Any more IS-spots without BB needed (and then, those spots have to be in Chozo Ruins, as IS can't be "transported" with elevators)?!

Btw: See; there is a difference between SJB-skip and SJB- AND BB-skip, as, for example, Ventilation Shaft is one of the hardest rooms in 21% but with BB it would be a, no; THE cake!
There might be many items you can acquire with BB if you haven't got SJB!
But I don't think any SANE person is going to do 22% (although I did myself :-p) and you've to be COMPLETELY insane to COMPLETE a 21%, so I think I can certainly say that he/ she's NOT going to skip SJB or to even go for "21%" (with or without "collectibles". Agreed?

The MC in Frigate Crash Site and the MC in Main Plaza, where you usually need a Super Missile (I collected it early with Floaty Jump) and the MC in Dynamo (the room near Charge Beam, with a SB-track; I managed to collect it early with Floaty Jump PLUS "Damage Boost" from the Plazmite or how that creature is named, and, btw, it took me at about 30 minutes, as I always had to refill my energy in the Gathering Hall Save Station). Those should be impossible without SJB NOR wallcrawling NOR IS, but even with wallcrawling; there are not too many SW you can enter without SJB and wallcrawling without SJB is even MUCH more arduous than wallcrawling with SJB!
And getting every item in Chozo Ruins EARLY with IS from this ONE AND ONLY SPOT (?!?prove me wrong?!?) sounds like a pain in the ass as well...

But I see, it's going to be interesting to see which items can be aquired/ collected without certain items/ upgrades, said, as early as possible (not "time-wise", but "item-wise")! Smile

I might PROBABLY start doing a list of all items/ upgrades/ artifacts in MP1 and describe which upgrades and tricks are needed to acquire them.

I exaggerated a bit as I wrote about "barely ANY item without SJB", but, well, at least it should be freaking hard to collect most of the harder ones WITHOUT going out-of bounds or using IS (escaping from the wall is only possible with BB afaik, and the only spot I know of, where you can escape from the wall (without BB) is Lava Pool?! Any more IS-spots without BB needed (and then, those spots have to be in Chozo Ruins, as IS can't be "transported" with elevators)?!

Btw: See; there is a difference between SJB-skip and SJB- AND BB-skip, as, for example, Ventilation Shaft is one of the hardest rooms in 21% but with BB it would be a, no; THE cake!
There might be many items you can acquire with BB if you haven't got SJB!
But I don't think any SANE person is going to do 22% (although I did myself :-p) and you've to be COMPLETELY insane to COMPLETE a 21%, so I think I can certainly say that he/ she's NOT going to skip SJB or to even go for "21%" (with or without "collectibles". Agreed?

The MC in Frigate Crash Site and the MC in Main Plaza, where you usually need a Super Missile (I collected it early with Floaty Jump) and the MC in Dynamo (the room near Charge Beam, with a SB-track; I managed to collect it early with Floaty Jump PLUS "Damage Boost" from the Plazmite or how that creature is named, and, btw, it took me at about 30 minutes, as I always had to refill my energy in the Gathering Hall Save Station). Those should be impossible without SJB NOR wallcrawling NOR IS, but even with wallcrawling; there are not too many SW you can enter without SJB and wallcrawling without SJB is even MUCH more arduous than wallcrawling with SJB!
And getting every item in Chozo Ruins EARLY with IS from this ONE AND ONLY SPOT (?!?prove me wrong?!?) sounds like a pain in the ass as well...

But I see, it's going to be interesting to see which items can be aquired/ collected without certain items/ upgrades, said, as early as possible (not "time-wise", but "item-wise")! :smile:
I might PROBABLY start doing a list of all items/ upgrades/ artifacts in MP1 and describe which upgrades and tricks are needed to acquire them.

creXALBO

2013-12-18 11:15:08 pm

Part-time philosopher

I wouldn't mind doing a max% under low% conditions. I'd skip varia but i'm not good enough to skip boost ball / space jump (so 23% conditions minus varia).

Daryoshi

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2014-04-05 06:43:55 pm

loving low%

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I wouldn't mind doing a max% under low% conditions. I'd skip varia but i'm not good enough to skip boost ball / space jump (so 23% conditions minus varia).

Hey, what have you gotten so far? Have you even get started?

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I wouldn't mind doing a max% under low% conditions.

I'm doing a max% under 21% conditions and I'm almost done now; several items just are not possible to get, not even with wallcrawling and jumping up to them from below or wrong room unmorphing. Or you CAN get them, but can't escape and get to a savestation afterwards.

I went and "continued" on my file where I'm in Impact Crater with 21%. (YEP, 21%). I basically did the same as on my No Space Jump file where I was at 28% i.e. the natural low% (29%) minus the 1% from skipping the SJB; collecting as many items as possible, but this time (on my 21% file), everything should be done under 21% conditions.

Well, with every upgrade except for SJB, you can use Boost Ball, Spider Ball or Grapple Beam to get to almost every area and you can use those upgrades to collect every single item except for the 2 items just next to Samus' Ship (Root Cave and Arbor Chamber). Those 2 items have never been collected w/out having SJB in possession. On top of that, it's not possible at all to collect those 2 items w/out either Grapple Beam nor SJB because you can't get to the 1st ledge w/ a beetle, vis-à-vis to the blue door.
I've got to say that I DID manage to get those 2 items WITHOUT having Moonjump/ AR activated and without USING SJB, but having SJB in possession (which makes a difference to not having SJB in possession in the first place, oddly enough

In contrary, I'm at (only) 73% at the moment. Makes 27%=26 items (don't ask me why Phazon Suit + Beam only counts after EVERY SINGLE other item has been acquired, i.e. jumping from ninety-EIGHT to 100%). Out of those 26 items, there're 8 upgrades that I skipped (remember, I was in Impact Crater with the absolute (known) minimum of 21%), making for 18 items that I'm still lacking. I got every of those 73-21=52 items without Secret Worlds/ Wallcrawling, except for the Missile Expansion in Life Grove Tunnel (21% Great Tree Hall shouldn't exist... Mad

).

EDIT 1 - 8th April '14 - Missile Expansion in Gravity Chamber = gotten
Power Bomb Expansion in Phendrana's Edge Cavern = gotten

EDIT 2 - 10th April '14 - Missile Expansion in Crossway = gotten

EDIT 3 - 11th April '14 - uppermost Missile Expansion in Main Plaza = gotten
Energy Tank in Training Chamber = gotten

The 18; 16; 15; 13 items I'm lacking of are:

Tallon Overworld:

Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma; collectable, but returning afterwards and climbing Reacor Core isn't possible w/out either Gravity Suit or SJB; and the other exit from the Sunken Frigate, Hydro Access Tunnel, can't be passed w/out either Gravity Suit or Boost Ball (for that "anti-gravity-trick")

Biohazard Containment; Super Missile + Charge Beam needed

Hydro Access Tunnel; collectable, but you get stuck just next to the Energy Tank w/out either Gravity Suit or Boost Ball; I couldn't even collect it from out-of-bounds w/ AR/ Moonjump

Root Cave: ... = cf. the few sentences I wrote about this one at the top of this post

Arbor Chamber: ... = cf. the few sentences I wrote about this one at the top of this post

Chozo Ruins:

~~Main Plaza~~; uppermost Missile Expansion; gotten with wallcrawling from Gathering Hall SW and simply falling to the ledge with the Missile Expansion on it; either Grapple Beam needed for grappling in Main Plaza or Boost Ball needed for activating one of the bomb slots in Training Chamber i.e. granting access (via Piston Tunnel) to the ledge vis-à-vis the Missile Expansion in Main Plaza, from there it's probably just a dash to the ledge w/ the Missile Expansion

Main Plaza; inside the tree; Super Missile needed

~~Training Chamber~~; gotten with wallcrawling from Gathering Hall SW and wrong room unmorphing; Boost Ball and then Spider Ball needed in order to reach the little "sub-room" w/ the Energy Tank

Ruined Fountain; Spider Ball needed

Dynamo; Spider Ball needed

~~Crossway~~; gotten with wallcrawling from Gathering Hall SW and getting the Missile Expansion from behind the wall (you automatically touch( acquire it; no wrong room unmorph involed/ needed); it might be possible w/ TAS w/ an INSANE strat, but.. this would involve doing the same as in 100%, while not using Boost Ball nor Spider Ball (I know it's even faster in 100% to use Boost Ball to get on the 1st nob, but let's just say one uses the "climb the room method), and then just find a way to do it w/out SJB LOL)

Furnace; the Missile Expansion doesn't seem to be possible to be reached just using UBJs to the ledges as you do it in a 100% speedrun while in human form, while not using Spider Ball (because it's faster in that room to skip Spider Ball), but it would only be viable for TAS anyway

Magmoor Caverns:

None; I collected every single item in Magmoor Caverns

Phendrana Drifts:

Phendrana Shorelines UPPER Missile Expansion; Super Missile + Charge Beam + Spider Ball needed; IIRC T3 once claimed getting it from out-of-bounds should be possible

Research Lab Hydra; Super Missile needed; don't know if it's theoretically possible to collect from out-of-bounds

Quarantine Monitor; Grapple Beam needed; the ledge is way to high to get up w/ a HBJ/ UBJ and way to far away from the other ledge; wait; perhaps you could do an insane dash from top of "sleeping" Thardus to make it on the ledge, an idea I just came up w/ while writing this, but I doubt it'll work out

~~Gravity Chamber~~; gotten with wallcrawling from Ice Ruins West SW and wrong room unmorphing just to the Missile Expansion; Grapple Beam needed; it's possible to get it WITHOUT either Grapple Beam NOR SJB, but that invloves dashing off one of those Pulse Bombus, as I clearly remember having read from craztad. Unfortunately, though, those Bombus appear only after the Gravity Suit has been acquired (i.e. room state change).

~~Phendrana's Edge~~ gotten with wallcrawling from Ice Ruins West SW and falling through the roof; besides this room (i.e. getting to the Artifact of Spirit) being the 2nd worst room in 21% (out of those that are possible to pull off), it's most certainly not even w/ TASed, perfectly laddered HBJs/ UBJs possible to get to the 1st ledge after that and from there getting to the 2nd ledge after the Plasma Beam door also seems impossible. From that 2nd ledge however, a dash off the glider would be enough to reach the ledge w/ the Power Bomb Expansion

Phazon Mines:

Metroid Quarantine B; Super Missile + Charge Beam needed; I couldn't even get it from out of bounds w/ AR/ Moonjump

Impact Crater:

LOL

[quote]I wouldn't mind doing a max% under low% conditions. I'd skip varia but i'm not good enough to skip boost ball / space jump (so 23% conditions minus varia).[/quote]

Hey, what have you gotten so far? Have you even get started?

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[quote]I wouldn't mind doing a max% under low% conditions.[/quote]

I'm doing a max% under 21% conditions and I'm almost done now; several items just are not possible to get, not even with wallcrawling and jumping up to them from below or wrong room unmorphing. Or you CAN get them, but can't escape and get to a savestation afterwards.

I went and "continued" on my file where I'm in Impact Crater with 21%. (YEP, 21%). I basically did the same as on my No Space Jump file where I was at 28% i.e. the natural low% (29%) minus the 1% from skipping the SJB; collecting as many items as possible, but this time (on my 21% file), everything should be done under 21% conditions.

Well, with every upgrade except for SJB, you can use Boost Ball, Spider Ball or Grapple Beam to get to almost every area and you can use those upgrades to collect every single item except for the 2 items just next to Samus' Ship (Root Cave and Arbor Chamber). Those 2 items have never been collected w/out having SJB in possession. On top of that, it's not possible at all to collect those 2 items w/out either Grapple Beam nor SJB because you can't get to the 1st ledge w/ a beetle, vis-à-vis to the blue door.
[color="red"]I've got to say that I DID manage to get those 2 items WITHOUT having Moonjump/ AR activated and without USING SJB, but having SJB in possession (which makes a difference to not having SJB in possession in the first place, oddly enough[/color]

In contrary, I'm at (only) 73% at the moment. Makes 27%=26 items (don't ask me why Phazon Suit + Beam only counts after EVERY SINGLE other item has been acquired, i.e. jumping from ninety-EIGHT to 100%). Out of those 26 items, there're 8 upgrades that I skipped (remember, I was in Impact Crater with the absolute (known) minimum of 21%), making for 18 items that I'm still lacking. I got every of those 73-21=52 items without Secret Worlds/ Wallcrawling, except for the Missile Expansion in Life Grove Tunnel (21% Great Tree Hall shouldn't exist...:mad:).

EDIT 1 - 8th April '14 - Missile Expansion in Gravity Chamber = gotten
Power Bomb Expansion in Phendrana's Edge Cavern = gotten

EDIT 2 - 10th April '14 - Missile Expansion in Crossway = gotten

EDIT 3 - 11th April '14 - uppermost Missile Expansion in Main Plaza = gotten
Energy Tank in Training Chamber = gotten

[color="red"]The [s]18[/s]; [s]16[/s]; [s]15[/s]; 13 items I'm lacking of are:[/color]

Tallon Overworld:

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Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma; collectable, but returning afterwards and climbing Reacor Core isn't possible w/out either Gravity Suit or SJB; and the other exit from the Sunken Frigate, Hydro Access Tunnel, can't be passed w/out either Gravity Suit or Boost Ball (for that "anti-gravity-trick")

Biohazard Containment; Super Missile + Charge Beam needed

Hydro Access Tunnel; collectable, but you get stuck just next to the Energy Tank w/out either Gravity Suit or Boost Ball; I couldn't even collect it from out-of-bounds w/ AR/ Moonjump

Root Cave: ... = cf. the few sentences I wrote about this one at the top of this post

Arbor Chamber: ... = cf. the few sentences I wrote about this one at the top of this post
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Chozo Ruins:

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[s]Main Plaza[/s]; uppermost Missile Expansion; gotten with wallcrawling from Gathering Hall SW and simply falling to the ledge with the Missile Expansion on it; either Grapple Beam needed for grappling in Main Plaza or Boost Ball needed for activating one of the bomb slots in Training Chamber i.e. granting access (via Piston Tunnel) to the ledge vis-à-vis the Missile Expansion in Main Plaza, from there it's probably just a dash to the ledge w/ the Missile Expansion

Main Plaza; inside the tree; Super Missile needed

[s]Training Chamber[/s]; gotten with wallcrawling from Gathering Hall SW and wrong room unmorphing; Boost Ball and then Spider Ball needed in order to reach the little "sub-room" w/ the Energy Tank

Ruined Fountain; Spider Ball needed

Dynamo; Spider Ball needed

[s]Crossway[/s]; gotten with wallcrawling from Gathering Hall SW and getting the Missile Expansion from behind the wall (you automatically touch( acquire it; no wrong room unmorph involed/ needed); it might be possible w/ TAS w/ an INSANE strat, but.. this would involve doing the same as in 100%, while not using Boost Ball nor Spider Ball (I know it's even faster in 100% to use Boost Ball to get on the 1st nob, but let's just say one uses the "climb the room method), and then just find a way to do it w/out SJB LOL)

Furnace; the Missile Expansion doesn't seem to be possible to be reached just using UBJs to the ledges as you do it in a 100% speedrun while in human form, while not using Spider Ball (because it's faster in that room to skip Spider Ball), but it would only be viable for TAS anyway
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Magmoor Caverns:

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None; I collected every single item in Magmoor Caverns
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Phendrana Drifts:

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Phendrana Shorelines UPPER Missile Expansion; Super Missile + Charge Beam + Spider Ball needed; IIRC T3 once claimed getting it from out-of-bounds should be possible

Research Lab Hydra; Super Missile needed; don't know if it's theoretically possible to collect from out-of-bounds

Quarantine Monitor; Grapple Beam needed; the ledge is way to high to get up w/ a HBJ/ UBJ and way to far away from the other ledge; wait; perhaps you could do an insane dash from top of "sleeping" Thardus to make it on the ledge, an idea I just came up w/ while writing this, but I doubt it'll work out

[s]Gravity Chamber[/s]; gotten with wallcrawling from Ice Ruins West SW and wrong room unmorphing just to the Missile Expansion; Grapple Beam needed; it's possible to get it WITHOUT either Grapple Beam NOR SJB, but that invloves dashing off one of those Pulse Bombus, as I clearly remember having read from craztad. Unfortunately, though, those Bombus appear only after the Gravity Suit has been acquired (i.e. room state change).

[s]Phendrana's Edge[/s] gotten with wallcrawling from Ice Ruins West SW and falling through the roof; besides this room (i.e. getting to the Artifact of Spirit) being the 2nd worst room in 21% (out of those that are possible to pull off), it's most certainly not even w/ TASed, perfectly laddered HBJs/ UBJs possible to get to the 1st ledge after that and from there getting to the 2nd ledge after the Plasma Beam door also seems impossible. From that 2nd ledge however, a dash off the glider would be enough to reach the ledge w/ the Power Bomb Expansion
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Phazon Mines:

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Metroid Quarantine B; Super Missile + Charge Beam needed; I couldn't even get it from out of bounds w/ AR/ Moonjump
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Impact Crater:

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LOL
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