Flickerbatting RIDLEY!!!

2005-02-05 10:45:13 am

I beat him on normal mode after a few attempts, but I'm playing through hard and I just can't get past ground mode.

I only have about 3 tanks lost and have an absurd amount of missiles but I can't seem to get enough damage on him. I've read the faqs over at gamefaqs and I've read Metroid2002's own boss tricks, but I just can't do it. It says that it only takes one charged shot to stun him, even on hard mode. NOWHERE NEAR. I don't know if it's because I've got the PAL version, but it's taking 2 super missiles which are really difficult to time right to stun him, then I get 3-4 missiles in his chest which hardly dent his energy bar. I tried the wavebuster strategy to stun him but it doesn't work, and I'm talking 5 attempts failing every time. It gives him stun damage (flashing yellow), but doesn't actually stun him, so it's not really worth it anyway.

I must say that as bosses go, I'm not very impressed. The first bit is easy, long, boring and repetitive, and then the second bit is just ridiculously difficult and as a result, no fun at all.

If anyone has any tips or tricks to get me past him, I'd really appreciate it.

Thread title:

I beat him on normal mode after a few attempts, but I'm playing through hard and I just can't get past ground mode.

I only have about 3 tanks lost and have an absurd amount of missiles but I can't seem to get enough damage on him.  I've read the faqs over at gamefaqs and I've read Metroid2002's own boss tricks, but I just can't do it.  It says that it only takes one charged shot to stun him, even on hard mode.  NOWHERE NEAR.  I don't know if it's because I've got the PAL version, but it's taking 2 super missiles which are really difficult to time right to stun him, then I get 3-4 missiles in his chest which hardly dent his energy bar.  I tried the wavebuster strategy to stun him but it doesn't work, and I'm talking 5 attempts failing every time.  It gives him stun damage (flashing yellow), but doesn't actually  stun him, so it's not really worth it anyway.

I must say that as bosses go, I'm not very impressed.  The first bit is easy, long, boring and repetitive, and then the second bit is just ridiculously difficult and as a result, no fun at all.

If anyone has any tips or tricks to get me past him, I'd really appreciate it.

Snytbaggen

2005-02-05 10:50:07 am

I also have PAL, and the wavebuster trick doesn't work. Instead, I usually tries to take him with rapid missile method (ya know, Y, A, Y, A etc. very fast), but then you need to have a lot of missiles, so I guess you can make it.

trh

2005-02-05 11:11:16 am

Was that censor avoiding? Replacing the 2 middle letters with stars.. hmm, I guess so.

AndehX

2005-02-05 11:23:31 am

heres my battle with Ridley on PAL MP, hope it helps you

http://pata.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/metaridley.avi

Skreemaster

2005-02-05 11:48:15 am

I'll be back. Maybe...

Quote from groovemeister:

The first bit is easy, long, boring and repetitive

Have you tried the Boost Ball yet? It'll leave you with much more health and missile ammo for the second form, as well as a greater chance to get the secret death scene.

Edit: TRH, that is usually just people censoring for themselves without knowing about the automatic censor.

Edit 2: The 'censor avoidance', I mean.

arkarian

2005-02-05 11:51:14 am

red chamber dream

Yeah, IMO the Boost Ball tactic is the best, easiest, and most effective way to beat Ridley.

MagicalCucumber

2005-02-05 12:47:42 pm

Question: When do you fight Ridley on Prime?
Somewhere near the end I'm thinking, am I right?
I recently got the game and still haven't completed.

Skreemaster

2005-02-05 12:53:03 pm

I'll be back. Maybe...

Asking for spoilers, are we?

trh

2005-02-05 01:09:47 pm

Quote from Skreemaster:

Edit: TRH, that is usually just people censoring for themselves without knowing about the automatic censor.

Then they haven't read the rules ;)

Skreemaster

2005-02-05 01:28:57 pm

I'll be back. Maybe...

Since when did people read the rules before posting?

AndehX

2005-02-05 01:55:24 pm

Quote from MagicalCucumber:

Question: When do you fight Ridley on Prime?
Somewhere near the end I'm thinking, am I right?
I recently got the game and still haven't completed.

right at the end yes, but hes relativly easy to beat.

whats this secret death cut scene?

Skreemaster

2005-02-05 02:11:11 pm

I'll be back. Maybe...

I think you get it if a totem is still standing at the end of the battle.

Here.

Random Zelda Person

2005-02-05 02:17:04 pm

How is the normal death scene different?

nate

2005-02-05 02:30:21 pm

there's no chozo totem there, so it doesn't look nearly as cool.

groovemeister

2005-02-05 02:33:25 pm

Quote from Snytbaggen:

I also have PAL, and the wavebuster trick doesn't work. Instead, I usually tries to take him with rapid missile method (ya know, Y, A, Y, A etc. very fast), but then you need to have a lot of missiles, so I guess you can make it.

Ya, I do that anyway, but still no joy. :(

Quote from TRH:

Was that censor avoiding? Replacing the 2 middle letters with stars.. hmm, I guess so.

What?

Quote from Skreemaster:

Quote from groovemeister:

The first bit is easy, long, boring and repetitive

Have you tried the Boost Ball yet? It'll leave you with much more health and missile ammo for the second form, as well as a greater chance to get the secret death scene.

Edit: TRH, that is usually just people censoring for themselves without knowing about the automatic censor.

Edit 2: The 'censor avoidance', I mean.

1) Boost Ball for what? I use it to avoid attacks in phase 1, but can you attack MR with it? What about Power Bombs too?

2) Secret death?

3) Is there an automatic censor? I wasn't sure about swearing, but I thought **s make it non-swearing was OK. :?

Quote from AndehX:

Quote from MagicalCucumber:

Question: When do you fight Ridley on Prime?
Somewhere near the end I'm thinking, am I right?
I recently got the game and still haven't completed.

right at the end yes, but hes relativly easy to beat.

HahaHA! Not on Hard Mode!

[quote="Snytbaggen"]I also have PAL, and the wavebuster trick doesn't work. Instead, I usually tries to take him with rapid missile method (ya know, Y, A, Y, A etc. very fast), but then you need to have a lot of missiles, so I guess you can make it.[/quote]

Ya, I do that anyway, but still no joy. :(

[quote="TRH"]Was that censor avoiding? Replacing the 2 middle letters with stars.. hmm, I guess so.[/quote]

What?

[quote="Skreemaster"][quote="groovemeister"]The first bit is easy, long, boring and repetitive[/quote]

Have you tried the Boost Ball yet? It'll leave you with much more health and missile ammo for the second form, as well as a greater chance to get the secret death scene.

Edit: TRH, that is usually just people censoring for themselves without knowing about the automatic censor.

Edit 2: The 'censor avoidance', I mean.[/quote]

1) Boost Ball for what?  I use it to avoid attacks in phase 1, but can you attack MR with it?  What about Power Bombs too?

2) Secret death?

3) Is there an automatic censor?  I wasn't sure about swearing, but I thought **s make it non-swearing was OK. :?

[quote="AndehX"][quote="MagicalCucumber"]Question: When do you fight Ridley on Prime?
Somewhere near the end I'm thinking, am I right?
I recently got the game and still haven't completed.[/quote]
right at the end yes, but hes relativly easy to beat.[/quote]

HahaHA!  Not on Hard Mode!

nate

2005-02-05 02:36:51 pm

Quote from groovemeister:

1) Boost Ball for what? I use it to avoid attacks in phase 1, but can you attack MR with it?

http://www.metroid2002.com/boss_tricks_ridley_1.php

Quote from groovemeister:

What about Power Bombs too?

power bombs have no known effect.

Quote from groovemeister:

2) Secret death?

http://www.metroid2002.com/other_ridley_scott.php

Quote from groovemeister:

3) Is there an automatic censor? I wasn't sure about swearing, but I thought **s make it non-swearing was OK.

not here. we prefer you not censor yourself and let the forum do it for you.

AndehX

2005-02-05 02:50:57 pm

Quote from groovemeister:

1) Boost Ball for what? I use it to avoid attacks in phase 1, but can you attack MR with it?

you obviously didnt watch my vid I posted just above.

hes not much harder on hard mode, not to me anyway.

groovemeister

2005-02-05 03:07:43 pm

quote="AndehX"]heres my battle with Ridley on PAL MP, hope it helps you

http://pata.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/metaridley.avi[/quote]

How come you stunned him with just one blast? Was it a charge beam shot or Super Missile (hard to tell cos of speed)? And was that hard mode itself?

Quote from AndehX:

Quote from groovemeister:

1) Boost Ball for what? I use it to avoid attacks in phase 1, but can you attack MR with it?

you obviously didnt watch my vid I posted just above.

hes not much harder on hard mode, not to me anyway.

So it reduces his health to when he normally loses his wings? Brilliant! Is it easy to do- do you just charge his feet? And is there any way to lure him down? :?

MagicalCucumber

2005-02-05 03:13:14 pm

The boost ball isn't used very much really.
Boost up half pipes, and activate spinners, supposed blast Ridley with it.

AndehX

2005-02-05 03:22:40 pm

when hes in the air just charge your boost and wait for him so slam down onto you, at the same time he hits you, release your boost, if you didnt hit him, just boost into him once, thats it.

on NTSC it takes only a changed shot to stun him, on PAL like my vid it takes a super missle to stun him.

tomatobob

2005-02-05 04:11:58 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from MagicalCucumber:

The boost ball isn't used very much really.
Boost up half pipes, and activate spinners, supposed blast Ridley with it.

Used more than the Flamethrower.

AndehX

2005-02-05 04:16:10 pm

i cant think of one use for the flamethrower

groovemeister

2005-02-05 05:10:04 pm

Quote from AndehX:

when hes in the air just charge your boost and wait for him so slam down onto you, at the same time he hits you, release your boost, if you didnt hit him, just boost into him once, thats it.

on NTSC it takes only a changed shot to stun him, on PAL like my vid it takes a super missle to stun him.

It takes more than 1 to stun him on Hard unless range comes into consideration.

???

tomatobob

2005-02-05 05:11:34 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

What's range got to do with it?

groovemeister

2005-02-05 06:48:17 pm

Quote from tomatobob:

What's range got to do with it?

If you're closer, more impact. The video had him really close. Well, I've had a few more hacks at it with no success, though thanks to the video's techniques, I've learned that closer gives you much better control over Ridley, and during my last attempt, I've been able to get hits on him just before he charges in the 1/2 second of opportunity that you get quite successfully. I was also hitting him wirth misiles when he's stunned, but I've found more luck with Super Missiles. It'll just take time.

I must say that it's bloody ridiculous; when I do beat him, I won't have had any fun doing it. And 2 Super Missiles just to STUN him only in the PAL version? Flickerbat that.