Faster 100% hard mode route?

2006-07-25 10:08:52 am

Speedrunner

I not know working my idea, when i think is it possible beat 100% hard mode faster possible route.

-Use same route as WR run, but change one route on Kraid lair
-Skip Acid worm and make horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool, this is hard, but possible trick
-Don,t active zip line your first visit in Kraid lair

-Kill acid worm and active zip line your second visit on Kraid lair (after suit boss and chozodia)
-Acid worm is possible beat much faster, because you have multiple super missile if you kill that fight your second visit. If you kill that fight your first visit, you not have any super missile, and this fight took lot time to beat.
- Collect all important missile expansions and energy tank, your second visit on Kraid lair.

- I think this my idea working only 100% hard mode, because 100% normal mode acid worm not take too much time to beat.

Understand? my english are suck ass.

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MR.X

2006-07-25 12:23:00 pm

Your english isn´t perfect but good. Maybe this method works, but don´t lose you time if you´re bomb jumping over the acid pool?I think you lose 20 seconds of this and you only save 15-18 seconds at the acid worm.That´s my opinion!

MASTER-88

2006-07-25 01:05:10 pm

Speedrunner

Thats right, i think horrizontal bomb jump took time, but i think its took about 10-12 seconds and acid worm about 40 sec or more, because this fight took lot time on hard mode i not meaning normal, because i am pretty sure thats my strategy not working normal mode.

Before acid worm you lose little bit time, because you not have power grip and diagonal bomb jump took little bit time, about 5 sec, i think.

I am pretty sure my new route is little bit faster than current WR route, but there is still one bad point, because i am pretty sure you not can skip early varia suit.
you have only 249 energy point max on Norfair and i not know is it enought, because hot air drain your energy very fast.

Your must be skip two energy tanks
1 one before acid worm
2 second ET inside Kraidlair, before norfair. Because your must be active zip line, if you want get that energy tank. Oh sorry i forget mention this energy tank is possible get without zip lines, but i think this took about 5-8 seconds, too much time.

Only hope if you kill most enemies on norfair and get enought energy refills & enought fast. This took lucky but i think it is possible.

Thats right, i think horrizontal bomb jump took time, but i think its took about 10-12 seconds and acid worm about 40 sec or more, because this fight took lot time on hard mode i not meaning normal, because i am pretty sure thats my strategy not working normal mode.

Before acid worm you lose little bit time, because you not have power grip and diagonal bomb jump took little bit time, about 5 sec, i think.

I am pretty sure my new route is little bit faster than current WR route, but there is still one bad point, because i am pretty sure you not can skip early varia suit.
you have only 249 energy point max on Norfair and i not know is it enought, because hot air drain your energy very fast.

Your must be skip two energy tanks
1 one before acid worm
2 second ET inside Kraidlair, before norfair. Because your must be active zip line, if you want get that energy tank. Oh sorry i forget mention this energy tank is possible get without zip lines, but i think this took about 5-8 seconds, too much time.

Only hope if you kill most enemies on norfair and get enought energy refills & enought fast. This took lucky but i think it is possible.

transience

2006-07-25 08:00:20 pm

twenty eight fifty

we covered this a while ago in the speed run topic. let me pull up DD's response...

Quote from Dragondarch:

Quote from Red Scarlet:

I'm wondering if it would be faster to do the Acid Worm skip in a 100%, then go back there and kill it with supers later for the items there?

Nah, would end up costing time in the long run. Aside from being forced to bomb jump across the acid pool, you'd also be missing the missile expansion in the room with the 4 morph ball launchers, plus having to save up and extra shine just to get back through the rio room after Kraid.

MASTER-88

2006-07-26 05:39:01 am

Speedrunner

Extra shine before rio room not take too much time (about 4-5 sec), but i understand, thats your second point. Yeah i missed missile expansion in the room with the 4 morph ball launcher. I not know how much this took time, if you get this expansion your second visit, but i think, too much. :|