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Opium: 2010-06-26 09:23:56 am

Opium: 2010-06-26 09:22:51 am

Opium: 2010-06-26 09:22:28 am

2010-06-26 09:21:34 am

Quote from Kharay1977:

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I'm nowhere near to being the best either, but walljumping is advanced?

What I found weird was that they had all played metroid before and liked it, but didn't really keep on playing it. They talked about metroid all the time, but that was it.

Good topic, I guess?... ;)

Anyhow, it's strange for me.... I can walljump really quite well in Zero Mission, but, the timing for it in Super Metroid is so different and more unforgiving somehow, I really can't do it in SM.

If you can do it in Zero Mission then you can surely do it in Super since I believe it is more forgiving, especially single-wall.

Just to clarify - I thought it was all weird, but that doesn't mean that it actually is weird. The kind of obsessive play that goes on at this site is more easily defined as weird. It's all a matter of perspective. If I had realized that more the last time I bumped heads with those guys then I probably wouldn't have pissed them off as much. I was basing too much off of my own experience.

[quote="Kharay1977"][quote="Opium"]I'm nowhere near to being the best either, but walljumping is advanced?

What I found weird was that they had all played metroid before and liked it, but didn't really keep on playing it.  They talked about metroid all the time, but that was it.[/quote]Good topic, I guess?... ;)

Anyhow, it's strange for me.... I can walljump really quite well in Zero Mission, but, the timing for it in Super Metroid is so different and more unforgiving somehow, I really can't do it in SM.[/quote]

If you can do it in Zero Mission then you can surely do it in Super since I believe it is more forgiving, especially single-wall.

Just to clarify - [u]I thought[/u] it was all weird, but that doesn't mean that it actually [i]is[/i] weird.  The kind of obsessive play that goes on at this site is more easily defined as weird.  It's all a matter of perspective.  If I had realized that more the last time I bumped heads with those guys then I probably wouldn't have pissed them off as much.  I was basing too much off of my own experience.

Kharay1977

2010-06-26 09:26:15 am

Quote from Opium:

Just to clarify - I thought it was all weird, but that doesn't mean that it actually is weird.

Well, I think it's kind of weird as well to obsess over a game series without actually actively playing it. Assuming that is what you were refering to.

Quietus

2010-06-26 12:00:48 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Quote from Opium:

Quote from Kharay1977:

Anyhow, it's strange for me.... I can walljump really quite well in Zero Mission, but, the timing for it in Super Metroid is so different and more unforgiving somehow, I really can't do it in SM.

If you can do it in Zero Mission then you can surely do it in Super since I believe it is more forgiving, especially single-wall.

The problem most people have with wall-jumping in Super is the small delay between turning and jumping. In ZM it's almost simultaneous, whereas in Super, you have to turn, putting Samus in the wall-jump pose, which you can clearly see when you do it, and then press jump. Once you figure that part, you can almost make it look easy and lazy, wall-jumping off almost anything.

UchihaSasuke

2010-06-26 05:44:53 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

hm looks like i now know why i failed so hard at wall jumping when i played SM. i was doing it ZM style and missing jumps all over the place.

at least the obssesion around here involves the games themselves very heavily. you get your money's worth by replaying the games a lot and you focus on the actual entertaining part of the series (the story is good for like 1-2 discussions but actually playing the games can give lots of discussions over time)

Kharay1977

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Kharay1977: 2010-06-26 07:19:51 pm

2010-06-26 07:18:55 pm

Quote from UchihaSasuke:

you get your money's worth by replaying the games a lot

Exactly.

And, by the way, that very good point is the very reason why I dislike the tendency as of late to make sequence breaking next to impossible. Super Metroid is now 16 years old and it is still being played. Because it is so very breakable and thus replayable. I mean, I don't see how the original developers could feel anything but the biggest sense of pride in knowing that who knows how many more years from now Super Metroid will still be played.

Opium

2010-06-26 08:08:17 pm

Quote from Kharay1977:

Quote from UchihaSasuke:

you get your money's worth by replaying the games a lot

Exactly.

And, by the way, that very good point is the very reason why I dislike the tendency as of late to make sequence breaking next to impossible. Super Metroid is now 16 years old and it is still being played. Because it is so very breakable and thus replayable. I mean, I don't see how the original developers could feel anything but the biggest sense of pride in knowing that who knows how many more years from now Super Metroid will still be played.

This is why I was saying that they would be wise to add sequence breaking elements to MoM. They've obviously sat down and taken note of all the things that the players enjoy about the series. They have to know the great lengths that people have gone to to break the Prime series and the gripes concerning the linearity of Fusion, so they would be fools not to put any value into the popularity of sequence breaking at this point. Just because the Primes + Fusion moved away from the idea doesn't mean that they're done with the whole concept.

[quote="Kharay1977"][quote="UchihaSasuke"]you get your money's worth by replaying the games a lot[/quote]Exactly.

And, by the way, that very good point is the very reason why I dislike the tendency as of late to make sequence breaking next to impossible. Super Metroid is now 16 years old and it is still being played. Because it is so very breakable and thus replayable. I mean, I don't see how the original developers could feel anything but the biggest sense of pride in knowing that who knows how many more years from now Super Metroid will still be played.[/quote]

This is why I was saying that they would be wise to add sequence breaking elements to MoM.  They've obviously sat down and taken note of all the things that the players enjoy about the series.  They have to know the great lengths that people have gone to to break the Prime series and the gripes concerning the linearity of Fusion, so they would be fools not to put any value into the popularity of sequence breaking at this point.  Just because the Primes + Fusion moved away from the idea doesn't mean that they're done with the whole concept.

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-26 09:07:40 pm

The utter randomness of this made me crack up

arkarian

2010-06-26 09:11:37 pm

red chamber dream

wow great remix. i like the original track a lot but this one might be even better.

SANOJSIEMANYM

2010-06-26 09:12:18 pm

XD Thats a weird vid. I heard the original song before, and as arkarian said(and beat me to it), it is a good remix.

tomatobob

2010-06-26 09:25:14 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Opium:

This is why I was saying that they would be wise to add sequence breaking elements to MoM.

You do realize that if the do add intentional breaks 90% of the people here will be bitching about the fact that they are intentional, right? If Zero Mission has taught us anything it's that. I'd support it though.

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-26 09:46:35 pm

Well, the sequence breaks in ZM are, without a doubt, intentional. You have the "normal routes" and the "hidden routes" in the game, and despite your ability to mix up the order of the bosses and acquired items, you still end up at the sequential "milestones" that were planned out by the developers.

tomatobob

2010-06-26 09:54:54 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

and this is bad why?

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-26 10:14:21 pm

Because there are too many parts in the sequence that are set in stone.

Opium

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Opium: 2010-06-26 10:18:07 pm

Opium: 2010-06-26 10:16:54 pm

2010-06-26 10:15:31 pm

We talked about this once before. I've never really felt like the fact that ZM's sequence breaks were intentional/planned was a drawback. In fact, the kind of sequence breaks that are done in Prime which involve serious glitches and/or secret worlds don't really hold any appeal for me. I guess Super did it best because the breaks in that game didn't feel planned, even though some of them were. They could do this with MoM.

tomatobob

2010-06-26 11:49:58 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Because there are too many parts in the sequence that are set in stone.

So...? There are only nine items you absolutely need to get, ten on hard. The game even encourages lower % runs. So you don't have to abuse wacky tricks to do it, I don't see why this bothers people. Fusion sucks because it's linear, ZM sucks because it was designed not to be. What exactly is it Metroid fans want?

Quote from Opium:

We talked about this once before. I've never really felt like the fact that ZM's sequence breaks were intentional/planned was a drawback.

Yeah, I know it's something I've brought up a couple times because it is something that just confuses me to no end, I remember you and I actually being in agreement in this case. It's just that I've never really heard anything besides, "intentional breaks are dumb" from the other point of view and I actually am interested in understanding their view point.

And they absolutely could do it with Other M, I'm just not confident they will. If they do, feel free to choose an avatar for me to use to show off how wrong I was.

[quote="Idkbutlike2"]Because there are too many parts in the sequence that are set in stone.[/quote]
So...? There are only nine items you absolutely need to get, ten on hard. The game even encourages lower % runs. So you don't have to abuse wacky tricks to do it, I don't see why this bothers people. Fusion sucks because it's linear, ZM sucks because it was designed not to be. What exactly is it Metroid fans want?

[quote="Opium"]We talked about this once before.  I've never really felt like the fact that ZM's sequence breaks were intentional/planned was a drawback.[/quote]
Yeah, I know it's something I've brought up a couple times because it is something that just confuses me to no end, I remember you and I actually being in agreement in this case. It's just that I've never really heard anything besides, "intentional breaks are dumb" from the other point of view and I actually am interested in understanding their view point.

And they absolutely could do it with Other M, I'm just not confident they will. If they do, feel free to choose an avatar for me to use to show off how wrong I was. :smile_orig:

Opium

2010-06-28 07:42:12 pm

hilarious!

Gaius_4

2010-06-30 10:38:53 am

I wonder if there were any reports of an escapee from the mental institution?

BioSpark

2010-06-30 02:29:13 pm

rotfl awesome. looks like he could just be a moron.

tomatobob

2010-06-30 07:02:02 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

hahaha, that man is hero.

arkarian

2010-07-03 03:21:46 am

red chamber dream

i've been working on some wario land 5 ils. playlist is here if anyone's interested.

Kharay1977

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Kharay1977: 2010-07-03 12:20:33 pm

2010-07-03 12:15:51 pm

<------ old.

Especially the transition from the plasma to the plasma cube... <3 Purple Motion, one of the two best MOD music artists ever. Skaven being the other.

Gaius_4

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Gaius_4: 2010-07-03 01:34:29 pm

2010-07-03 01:34:05 pm

Cute, and quick... aiwebs_004

Not cute and not quick. Sick

(nsfw language)

Poision Envy

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Poision Envy: 2010-07-03 04:06:45 pm

2010-07-03 04:02:32 pm

Club 27 Goals

I like how that kid calls other people fat like its an insult... wait is that a girl?

They have MAJOR issues.

EDIT: I actually lol'd when he/she was like "I can get low to tha ground, and ya'll cant even hit me". Hurrdurr one kick to the face should solve that issue.

Kharay1977

2010-07-03 04:09:40 pm

Quote from Poision Envy:

I like how that kid calls other people fat like its an insult... wait is that a girl?

I like how someone with obvious borderline morbid obesity still tries to suggest other people are fat slobs, just by upping the number. ;) "500 - 600 pound bodies". *grin* Someone needs to buy a mirror. A big one.

Idkbutlike2

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Idkbutlike2: 2010-07-03 06:46:38 pm

2010-07-03 06:46:15 pm

Her last one probably cracked when she leaned against it. And I hope she realizes that any person who would want to confront her would probably bring a gun, and jujitsu and a jack handle wouldn't do shit against that.