then you should be fine afaik. have to ask p109 if he gets color with my gamecube.
How did NINTENDO themselves (sp.) record it?
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Quote from Smops:
Probably with the Dev kit. The dev kit is just a computer that runs DS software, all game-developers get some to make games, and some journalists get one to beta-test games. The dev-kit they use to make/test PSP games is larger than an XBOX =D.
Not so sure that journalists get actual devkits, though they may get debugging consoles. And I believe Nintendo is more paranoid than that. A friend of mine who worked for Play (he's now at NP) told me about when he played the reviewable of Golden Sun 2: "Actually, Golden Sun 2 comes in a big boxed contraption with a padlock on it and it hooks up to the TV using N64/GC cables. A GBA is attatched as a controller, but I don't think you can view it on the screen. At least not without a lot of hassle."
And I believe the PSX devkit was $20,000. Haven't heard prices of others.
And I believe the PSX devkit was $20,000. Haven't heard prices of others.
yeah, if i know nintendo (which i would like to think i do) ... they definitely have a ds player up and running, same as they had a game boy player for every system since the super fami ("wide boy"). thus grenola being an option if it's not released commercially.
There's a video floating around where they (as in one of the developers on Hunters, and his buddies) were demonstrating the multiplayer on their "blue boxes" (DS players -- essentially just exactly what a wideboy for DS would be, with a DS as the input and TV out). That's apparently what they're using at Nintendo to get direct feed recordings. Split screen vertical direct from the thing.
As for jimmy-ing a DS for video output, good luck. You'll have to convert the signal to an intermittent video to combine the top and bottom screens into the full image, then convert that to composite/component for the final signal... unless you've got two TV's... in which case it might be possible to take from that one accessory for the GBA which allowed you to hook it up to the TV.
As for jimmy-ing a DS for video output, good luck. You'll have to convert the signal to an intermittent video to combine the top and bottom screens into the full image, then convert that to composite/component for the final signal... unless you've got two TV's... in which case it might be possible to take from that one accessory for the GBA which allowed you to hook it up to the TV.
Quote from njahnke:
yeah, if i know nintendo (which i would like to think i do) ... they definitely have a ds player up and running, same as they had a game boy player for every system since the super fami ("wide boy"). thus grenola being an option if it's not released commercially.
Coming soon: the WTDSP! :o
the best way would probably be to tap the cables that connect the video drive electronics to the screens and then build some kit to sample the voltage levels involved and record them to a computer, then write some software to take that data and reconstruct frames of video from it, then use some AVI tool (vdub ? mplayer ?) that will let you make an AVI out of the resulting frames. the audio is of course trivial.
possible, but you'd need a highly intrusive DS modification and (here comes the guesswork) a large array of analogue to digital convertors.
hmm. where's my ds.
EDIT: there are these pics at lik-sang:
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3530
which imply that those brown ribbon cables are used to connect up the screens. you might be able to tap the voltages on the cables by cramming two cables into a single cable socket, then make holes in the ds's case to bring the cables to the outside world. this is all just theory of course.
sixty frames per second is nothing, though, in electronic terms. if you got it working, the resulting device probably wouldn't need to cost very much. actually connecting it to the ds would be the hard part.
at least, unlike my failed attempt to build a gamecube memory card reader, there wouldn't be any crypto involved this time.
possible, but you'd need a highly intrusive DS modification and (here comes the guesswork) a large array of analogue to digital convertors.
hmm. where's my ds.
EDIT: there are these pics at lik-sang:
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3530
which imply that those brown ribbon cables are used to connect up the screens. you might be able to tap the voltages on the cables by cramming two cables into a single cable socket, then make holes in the ds's case to bring the cables to the outside world. this is all just theory of course.
sixty frames per second is nothing, though, in electronic terms. if you got it working, the resulting device probably wouldn't need to cost very much. actually connecting it to the ds would be the hard part.
at least, unlike my failed attempt to build a gamecube memory card reader, there wouldn't be any crypto involved this time.
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theres 3 systems:
IS-Nitro-Emulator - this is used for compiling games for the NDS console aswell as has the features of both the Video and Capture systems. its also been spectated over of weither its the official development kit since on the side of the box it says "confidential property of nintendo"
IS-Nitro-Capture - Captures Video and Screenshots from the DS via USB cable to computer, aswell as outputs DS screens as TV signal
IS-Nitro-Video - For TV output only.
they were all used at E3(minus the IS-Nitro-Emulator system) where the Metroid Hunters Single Player Tryouts were being tryed out to put the image onto 2 seperate TV's. so its definitly possible(allthugh the price of these machines are $4000+ for the -capture and -video systems the -emulator wont be sold without a license).
with a little time stuff like this will be released by third party developers without doubt(for much less).
Metroid Hunters WILL have a full single player just like Prime1, and it will also have a Multiplayer(confirmed to be Wifi-Ready(ONLINE) on Release.).
IS-Nitro-Emulator - this is used for compiling games for the NDS console aswell as has the features of both the Video and Capture systems. its also been spectated over of weither its the official development kit since on the side of the box it says "confidential property of nintendo"
IS-Nitro-Capture - Captures Video and Screenshots from the DS via USB cable to computer, aswell as outputs DS screens as TV signal
IS-Nitro-Video - For TV output only.
they were all used at E3(minus the IS-Nitro-Emulator system) where the Metroid Hunters Single Player Tryouts were being tryed out to put the image onto 2 seperate TV's. so its definitly possible(allthugh the price of these machines are $4000+ for the -capture and -video systems the -emulator wont be sold without a license).
with a little time stuff like this will be released by third party developers without doubt(for much less).
Metroid Hunters WILL have a full single player just like Prime1, and it will also have a Multiplayer(confirmed to be Wifi-Ready(ONLINE) on Release.).
Sorry to bump this topic, but i found this on a swedish site, and it's pretty cheap too, around 33 USD. The top line says "Play Nintendo DS on the TV", but to me it looks more like a GBA-to-TV tool or something like that.
Quote from Snytbaggen:
Sorry to bump this topic, but i found this on a swedish site, and it's pretty cheap too, around 33 USD. The top line says "Play Nintendo DS on the TV", but to me it looks more like a GBA-to-TV tool or something like that.
Don't be, that's a really nice find. And I merged the url with the 'this', it was messing up the layout. :P
Quote from SABERinBLUE:
I think there has got to be a way to jimmy the audio and video of a DS through a VCR. Doesn't the PSP have something like this?
Ok no I know electronics (as i'm building an snes portable right now) and it's impossible unless your as good as the people who make nintendo sytems and have 100 to 500 bucks on you to do something like this don't believe me? go here and ask the question believe me someone will call you a noob. and the psp on a tv thing is just a camera that records whats happening and puts it on the tv...
and that gameboy thing is a nice find but it may or may not be practical...