The 8th Hunter (Fanfiction) [locked]

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2008-04-11 10:02:18 pm

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Quote from KennyMan666:

Quote from IUniverse:

Also take a look at Kenny, he fails to address a point that he misunderstood that caused this shit to happen. Truly, this place is blessed.

I read the post you're talking about a ton of times, trying to approach different conclusion of what it meant. But no matter what, I only reached "My story for Hunters is much better than what's actually in the game!"

Post the post, I want to see it.

KennyMan666

2008-04-11 10:12:34 pm

Viking

Precursor

Quote from IUniverse:

I'm not dumbing myself to the level of the creators of Metroid Prime Hunters either. Do I care if they wanted the data there? Not at all. What's important to me is that the data is there and I enjoy finding the data and sharing it.

IUniverse

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2008-04-11 10:20:47 pm

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Thank you.

Quote from KennyMan666:

Quote from IUniverse:

I'm not dumbing myself to the level of the creators of Metroid Prime Hunters either. Do I care if they wanted the data there? Not at all. What's important to me is that the data is there and I enjoy finding the data and sharing it.

What I meant was data that could be possible, using the data that the developers had put into the game. What I said I didn't care about, is if the developers see the possible situations that can be derived from the data put into the game. Not all minds think a lot, after all.

That was easy, was it not? Instead of causing something such as this? We are both to blame here.

tomatobob

2008-04-11 10:40:53 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

You could have just posted what you did right there in the first place, but even then your theories still dwell in the realm of fanfiction. You're still inserting your ideas into what actually exists, your ideas are not going to make anyone see the story in Hunters any differently.

Quote from IUniverse:

Would it be funny if they messed with all your posts? Would it be a big laugh then?

That's happened to me before in a limited manner, and it was damn funny. Yoshi had a talent for it.

KennyMan666

2008-04-11 10:52:19 pm

Viking

Precursor

Actually, we had already pretty much deemed it to be fanfiction. That line just confirmed it, and thus we took action.

IUniverse

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2008-04-11 11:23:08 pm

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Quote from tomatobob:

That's happened to me before in a limited manner, and it was damn funny. Yoshi had a talent for it.

I don't find it funny at all, in my case. As for not addressing that first, well I wanted to show you the behavior I've dealt with.

Quote from KennyMan666:

Actually, we had already pretty much deemed it to be fanfiction. That line just confirmed it, and thus we took action.

It didn't confirm a thing. Fan Fiction is completely made up by a fan, and needs no in-game scans to defend itself since both the data and interpretation are coming from one source: the one writing the peice. In my case, these are theories and others are informative information. I am only the source of interpretation, the data comes from the development team of NST. I would not need any in-game scans to support a fan fiction either, but I would for a theory. If I'm not the source of both the data being used and the interpretation, then it's not fan fiction. I didn't make up the scans and the like; therefore, they're theories not fan fiction.

[quote="tomatobob"]
That's happened to me before in a limited manner, and it was damn funny. Yoshi had a talent for it.
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I don't find it funny at all, in my case. As for not addressing that first, well I wanted to show you the behavior I've dealt with.

[quote="KennyMan666"]
Actually, we had already pretty much deemed it to be fanfiction. That line just confirmed it, and thus we took action.
[/quote]

It didn't confirm a thing. Fan Fiction is completely made up by a fan, and needs no in-game scans to defend itself since both the data and interpretation are coming from one source: the one writing the peice. In my case, these are theories and others are informative information. I am only the source of interpretation, the data comes from the development team of NST. I would not need any in-game scans to support a fan fiction either, but I would for a theory. If I'm not the source of both the data being used and the interpretation, then it's not fan fiction. I didn't make up the scans and the like; therefore, they're theories not fan fiction.

arkarian

2008-04-11 11:32:55 pm

red chamber dream

Guys, enough. From now on, I will be deleting any further meaningless arguing. This topic is for IUniverse's Hunters fanfiction, so let's quit bickering and give him the helpful crit he deserves.

I, for one, think your ideas are good, but you could probably expound on a lot of settings and characters. I'm interesting in hearing more of your Sylux storyline, personally.

KennyMan666

2008-04-11 11:37:25 pm

Viking

Precursor

It was just tl;dr for me. Try making the next chapter lighter.

tomatobob

2008-04-11 11:41:01 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Eh, there are some nice ideas, but it just doesn't flow all that well.
You should work on that.

arkarian

2008-04-11 11:42:57 pm

red chamber dream

Keep in mind this is just the first chapter, guys. I'm sure his writing style/flow will get better with time.

*eagerly awaits chapter two*

tomatobob

2008-04-11 11:45:42 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

That's the thing, if he broke up the existing chapter into several smaller ones it would flow better if only because there's a chapter break before the subject change.

arkarian

2008-04-11 11:48:11 pm

red chamber dream

hmm, yeah I see what you mean now. I'm gonna have to lower my score to

, but don't let that discourage you. It doesn't mean I like it any less; it just could have been formatted better.

IUniverse

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2008-04-11 11:48:53 pm

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There really is no getting through to you all is there? This isn't fanfiction at all, and I'm the one who created these as theories. There are no chapters, there are no stories, there are just theories with a blend of information. I can expand on my theories, yes, but these aren't fanfiction.

I will expand a bit on Sylux's impact in Hunters in the next theory bit a post here, but the setting can't really be expanded since I go off of Hunters. As for what you said Kenny, I will try to make my sections that cover a theory shorter.

tomatobob

2008-04-11 11:52:03 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Definitely expand on Sylux's part, it should be thrilling indeed. Just don't make it over long, it's hard to read such large blocks of text.

MotherBrainII

2008-04-12 04:13:05 am

Until near the end of page 3 I thought I was the only onew that actually found this interesting. Some of it is WOT, but it's nice to see deeper thinking into what happens in a game.

IUniverse

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2008-04-12 02:24:38 pm

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Introduction:

One thing that has always interested me in Metroid Prime Hunters is the whole connection the Alimbics have with the hunters and the respective race influences behind their characters. In this theory, I will discuss the connection. This is going to Alimbic-centered, but that's the core of this theory.

Theory

In Metroid Prime Hunters, Samus Aran acquires the sub-weapons not from the other bounty hunters but from the exploration of the environments within the Alimbic Cluster region of the Tetra Galaxy, which was once ruled by Alimbics until they had to deal with Gorea in the Alimbic War. What is intriguing to me, is that the hunters have these sub-weapons as weapons of choice respectively. This makes me wonder if there are links between the Alimbics and the characters?

Celestial Archives: Kanden and Sylux Influences

We obtain two weapons in the Celestial Archives: the Volt Driver and Shock Coil. The Volt Driver is Kanden's weapon of choice; however, we obtain the Volt Driver within the Data Shrine 02. Also take note that Kanden's affinity with the Volt Driver is homing and distortion, a trait that is identical with the Guardians that use the Volt Driver within the same Data Shrine. Not to mention, the Slench 3A fires out bursts of the Volt Driver technology that causes distortion. This makes me wonder if the Alimbics offered the Volt Driver to Kanden's creators, since it is his affinity weapon. Who knows maybe the cutscene intro of Kanden's is after Hunters, and it turns out the Alimbics made Kanden. After all, it seems the Alimbics have the most advancements dealing with the Volt Driver than any other weapon.

In the Shock Coil's case, it suggests that the Federation and Alimbics interacted with one another in the past. It states that the Shock Coil is a Federation prototype weapon [Shock Coil scan]; however, it is obtained in one of the Alimbic territories: the Celestial Archives. With that being said, they would've had a past meeting. With the Galactic Federation seeming a more recently established race/organization, but with the Alimbics being around for what seems much longer (since they won the Tetra Border Wars 2,000 years prior to the events of Hunters [Battle Sarcophagus]), seems to me that the Federation may have stolen then build up on Alimbic technology resulting in the Shock Coil. That's the only conclusion that comes to mind, since the areas of the Alimbic Cluster had already featured Blash Sheild technology involving the Shock Coil. Also the switch within the Oubliette complex.

Alinos: Spire Connection

The only weapon we obtain within the volcanic ruins of the fiery planet Alinos, is the Magmaul. Spire's weapon of choice is the Magmaul, and with it he can burn his targets in flames. Like with the other sub-weapons, it seems that the Magmaul has been used in several Alimbic technologies (i.e. Magma Voldrum, Psycho Bit V3.0, Slench 2A, Guardians, ...). With that being said, it's possible that the Diamonts received the Magmaul weapon from the Alimbic People. It also is suggestive that the Alimbics created the Magmaul as well. The Alimbics have a Lava Processor used to process ignesive material and a Thermal Regulator that "transduces volcanic heat into useable energy". The Magmaul could very well have been the product of the two devices' purposes.

Vesper Defense Outpost: Weavel Connection

To cut to the chase, the BattleHammer is contained within in the Cortex CPU area of the V.D.O. and yet it is the weapon of choice of Weavel. Many Alimbic technologies feature influence based on the BattleHammer. It was never stated that the BattleHammer is Space Pirate technolgy in the game, but it was found within the Alimbic Cluster and not obtained from Weavel. This makes me think that, like the GF, the Space Pirates took a technology and then expanded upon it. Most Alimbic technologies use a some-what more primitive version of the BattleHammer, where as the Blast Sheilds use the non-affinity BattleHammer. Also note that the BattleHammer is used for both the biped and alternate forms of Weavel; however, it's obvious that a device within Weavel's gun in biped form allows him his affinity with the Battle Hammer. To add, Weavel's HalfTurret seems more like the Alimbic Turret v1.4 than other Space Pirate turrets. It is possible that his HalfTurret is based upon that model.

I'll save the connections of Trace, Samus, and Noxus for a later post.

[size=20pt][b]Introduction:[/b][/size]

One thing that has always interested me in Metroid Prime Hunters is the whole connection the Alimbics have with the hunters and the respective race influences behind their characters. In this theory, I will discuss the connection. This is going to Alimbic-centered, but that's the core of this theory.

[size=20pt][b]Theory[/b][/size]

In Metroid Prime Hunters, Samus Aran acquires the sub-weapons not from the other bounty hunters but from the exploration of the environments within the Alimbic Cluster region of the Tetra Galaxy, which was once ruled by Alimbics until they had to deal with Gorea in the Alimbic War. What is intriguing to me, is that the hunters have these sub-weapons as weapons of choice respectively. This makes me wonder if there are links between the Alimbics and the characters?

[u][b]Celestial Archives: Kanden and Sylux Influences[/b][/u]

We obtain two weapons in the Celestial Archives: the Volt Driver and Shock Coil. The Volt Driver is Kanden's weapon of choice; however, we obtain the Volt Driver within the Data Shrine 02. Also take note that Kanden's affinity with the Volt Driver is homing and distortion, a trait that is identical with the Guardians that use the Volt Driver within the same Data Shrine. Not to mention, the Slench 3A fires out bursts of the Volt Driver technology that causes distortion. This makes me wonder if the Alimbics offered the Volt Driver to Kanden's creators, since it is his affinity weapon. Who knows maybe the cutscene intro of Kanden's is after Hunters, and it turns out the Alimbics made Kanden. After all, it seems the Alimbics have the most advancements dealing with the Volt Driver than any other weapon.

In the Shock Coil's case, it suggests that the Federation and Alimbics interacted with one another in the past. It states that the Shock Coil is a Federation prototype weapon [Shock Coil scan]; however, it is obtained in one of the Alimbic territories: the Celestial Archives. With that being said, they would've had a past meeting. With the Galactic Federation seeming a more recently established race/organization, but with the Alimbics being around for what seems much longer (since they won the Tetra Border Wars 2,000 years prior to the events of Hunters [Battle Sarcophagus]), seems to me that the Federation may have stolen then build up on Alimbic technology resulting in the Shock Coil. That's the only conclusion that comes to mind, since the areas of the Alimbic Cluster had already featured Blash Sheild technology involving the Shock Coil. Also the switch within the Oubliette complex.

[u][b]Alinos: Spire Connection[/b][/u]

The only weapon we obtain within the volcanic ruins of the fiery planet Alinos, is the Magmaul. Spire's weapon of choice is the Magmaul, and with it he can burn his targets in flames. Like with the other sub-weapons, it seems that the Magmaul has been used in several Alimbic technologies (i.e. Magma Voldrum, Psycho Bit V3.0, Slench 2A, Guardians, ...). With that being said, it's possible that the Diamonts received the Magmaul weapon from the Alimbic People. It also is suggestive that the Alimbics created the Magmaul as well. The Alimbics have a Lava Processor used to process ignesive material and a Thermal Regulator that "transduces volcanic heat into useable energy". The Magmaul could very well have been the product of the two devices' purposes.

[u][b]Vesper Defense Outpost: Weavel Connection[/b][/u]

To cut to the chase, the BattleHammer is contained within in the Cortex CPU area of the V.D.O. and yet it is the weapon of choice of Weavel. Many Alimbic technologies feature influence based on the BattleHammer. It was never stated that the BattleHammer is Space Pirate technolgy in the game, but it was found within the Alimbic Cluster and not obtained from Weavel. This makes me think that, like the GF, the Space Pirates took a technology and then expanded upon it. Most Alimbic technologies use a some-what more primitive version of the BattleHammer, where as the Blast Sheilds use the non-affinity BattleHammer. Also note that the BattleHammer is used for both the biped and alternate forms of Weavel; however, it's obvious that a device within Weavel's gun in biped form allows him his affinity with the Battle Hammer. To add, Weavel's HalfTurret seems more like the Alimbic Turret v1.4 than other Space Pirate turrets. It is possible that his HalfTurret is based upon that model.

[u][b]I'll save the connections of Trace, Samus, and Noxus for a later post.[/b][/u]

IUniverse

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IUniverse vs. Arkarian

http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php/topic,7184.0.html

Winner: IUniverse
Loser and coward: Arkarian

Man, this has to be one of the best peices in this thread. What a coward, relying on mod powers because he can't fall back on his shitty debating skills. aiwebs_008

Dragonfangs

2008-04-12 05:56:30 pm

I don't know about you, but I can't see that any other way than you losing there. Seeing as your topic got locked and all...
You could accuse ark of maybe cheating or cowardice, but losing? Not at all. Unless you were actually trying to get your topic locked and just luring the mods into a trap, in which case I must congratulate you on an excellent job so far.

IUniverse

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2008-04-12 06:02:13 pm

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Quote from Dragonfangs:

You could accuse ark of maybe cheating or cowardice, but losing?

Yes, Ark lost. You run away in a debate, you lose till proven otherwise by a return of that debate.

SABERinBLUE

2008-04-12 06:02:46 pm

Cook of the Sea

Hey IUniverse, just because you want to have a debate doesn't mean you win if the other person doesn't want to have a debate.

IUniverse

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2008-04-12 06:05:43 pm

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Quote from SABERinBLUE:

Hey IUniverse, just because you want to have a debate doesn't mean you win if the other person doesn't want to have a debate.

Hey, he wanted to leave a good comment and get involved so it's his loss. As far as I'm concerned I'll take on the whole damn Metroid fanbase when it comes to Hunters.

DSG3002

2008-04-12 06:14:23 pm

ima chargin mah lazr

Quote from IUniverse:

Quote from SABERinBLUE:

Hey IUniverse, just because you want to have a debate doesn't mean you win if the other person doesn't want to have a debate.

Hey, he wanted to leave a good comment and get involved so it's his loss. As far as I'm concerned I'll take on the whole damn Metroid fanbase when it comes to Hunters.

Anger management lulz

It's a game dude. Chill.

Also, just because somebody doesn't feel like hearing a bunch of bullshit from someone else on the internet doesn't mean they "lost like a coward". You don't have to get all defensive about MPH just because you like the game and 98% of the other people who own the game can't stand it. :|

Cpadolf

2008-04-12 06:15:43 pm

Almost happy

Quote from IUniverse:

Winner: IUniverse
Loser and coward: Arkarian

Well that is completely subjective. I'd say that you lost to everyone else in the thread trying to debate with you because you're arguments where stupid and made you look like an idiot. My guess is also that if we'd let 100+ unbiased persons examine the debate most would not claim you as victorious.

Quote from IUniverse:

As far as I'm concerned I'll take on the whole damn Metroid fanbase when it comes to Hunters.

Hit me, convince me that Hunters is a better game than Super Metroid :-)

tomatobob

2008-04-12 06:21:49 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Cpad, please don't get him started.

Quote from IUniverse:

IUniverse vs. Arkarian
Man, this has to be one of the best peices in this thread. What a coward, relying on mod powers because he can't fall back on his shitty debating skills. aiwebs_008

He wasn't debating, all he really did was tell you to shut up.
And the topic was locked because it became a shit storm of stupid, not because he was losing a debate he wasn't in. Just stick to posting your fanfiction, it's far more interesting than your false sense of superiority.

And for your latest entry...

Still a bit dry, but much less wall o' text-ish.

IUniverse

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2008-04-12 06:22:28 pm

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Quote from Cpadolf:

Hit me, convince me that Hunters is a better game than Super Metroid :-)

I said the whole Metroid fanbase. It wouldn't be fun any other way, and when I do so it will be my last movement for MPH.