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Heh, California's not that great.... but let's avoid going into that again...
I never understood the hype of living in CA. I think you're right; it can't possibly be that great. I'd rather live in Colorado.
As for another picture of me, maybe I'll take one soon. Maybe.
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~henhen/trio.jpg
That was a pic from Fanimecon last year.
Ummeiko, you should come to Fanimecon this year :)
That was a pic from Fanimecon last year.
Ummeiko, you should come to Fanimecon this year :)
CALFoolio, are you a Cal student? It's weird to see an OCF url off-campus. I've been at Cal, student and staff, for lo these many years.
And yeah, I don't really get the California hype myself, but I've lived here all my life and don't really have much to compare it with. It might be nice to see snow without having to drive for several hours once in a while.
And yeah, I don't really get the California hype myself, but I've lived here all my life and don't really have much to compare it with. It might be nice to see snow without having to drive for several hours once in a while.
Eck, Cal Berkley?
Had nothing against them until...oh...December 5th. It's just against your football program ;)
Yes, I go to Texas. The whole ordeal about Cal calling us whiners when they were whining non-stop after the BCS selections...ugh, pissed me off. Oh well, what goes around comes around. Cal lost to Texas Tech (only time I ever am happy Tech won) in California, and Texas beat Michigan. So, it worked out in the end, and Cal's football team looked like jerks.
But as I said, nothing against your school or students, just the football team ;) I only hate Oklahoma and everyone at that school.
Had nothing against them until...oh...December 5th. It's just against your football program ;)
Yes, I go to Texas. The whole ordeal about Cal calling us whiners when they were whining non-stop after the BCS selections...ugh, pissed me off. Oh well, what goes around comes around. Cal lost to Texas Tech (only time I ever am happy Tech won) in California, and Texas beat Michigan. So, it worked out in the end, and Cal's football team looked like jerks.
But as I said, nothing against your school or students, just the football team ;) I only hate Oklahoma and everyone at that school.
Er, you're completely missing the point of the Rose Bowl in that case. I haven't followed Cal football since I left the band years ago, but the point is that the Rose Bowl has always been, for decades, about the Pac-10 schools. Since the Pappy Waldorf days in the 40s and 50s Cal's Rose Bowl hopes have been dim (although we came comparatively close my freshman year) and it just royally sucks that the one year Cal could actually have made it the rules were changed and a non-Pac-10 team was chosen -- by a triviality, as I recall. It's nothing against Texas or its teams, as far as I'm concerned, but I don't think it's really possible for someone outside to understand the enormity of the situation. It has nothing to do with who was selected instead of Cal and everything to do with the BCS changing the rules. Watching another Pac-10 team go to the Rose Bowl, yeah, we're used to that (our team usually sucks, we even have a "fight song" California Can't Win The Game which I still have it memorized), but this...arrgh. Fifty years of waiting to have a good enough team and this happens.
That's me as a Cal alum. Me as a former Cal Bandsman agrees (never mind the grammar) that football players can be jerks, although ours usually supported us pretty well. I don't know what our team said that you're referring to and I'm not excusing anything, just trying to give some perspective. And I hate sports. :P My sympathy is all for the Cal Band who had hopes of finally marching in the Rose Parade; I don't really care what happens the rest of the day.
That's me as a Cal alum. Me as a former Cal Bandsman agrees (never mind the grammar) that football players can be jerks, although ours usually supported us pretty well. I don't know what our team said that you're referring to and I'm not excusing anything, just trying to give some perspective. And I hate sports. :P My sympathy is all for the Cal Band who had hopes of finally marching in the Rose Parade; I don't really care what happens the rest of the day.
Wow, what a coincidence Chanoire, I'm alumni too. What year did you graduate?
Funny thing is that I still live in Berkeley, but I spend most of my time at work now. It's like my second home/prison :(
TSA, I don't care about football at all, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Cali is awesome... except for the warm weather and sunlight. Cursed Day-
Star!
Funny thing is that I still live in Berkeley, but I spend most of my time at work now. It's like my second home/prison :(
TSA, I don't care about football at all, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Cali is awesome... except for the warm weather and sunlight. Cursed Day-
Star!
CalFoolio - Long story, and since you're not a football fan, you don't care ;)
It has not always been this way. A Pac-10 or Big Ten team has not always been represented in the Rose Bowl.
The year before this, Texas got fucked over by Oklahoma and the stupid BCS rules that a Conference Champion HAS to go to a BCS team. Kansas State beat Oklahoma in the BIX XII championship game last year, and Texas was knocked out of the BCS picture due to rules, not ranking. If Cal fans had anything to be mad at, it is the BCS system and the Non-BCS Conference rule - which Utah's ranking bumped Cal out. Had the rule not been in place, Cal would have gone to the Rose Bowl, Texas to the Fiesta Bowl. But Utah moreso than Texas caused the trouble.
I didn't have anything against Cal and thought it was all the BCS's fault, and that everyone should blame the BCS. Then Aaron Rodgers went around and made stupid remarks about Texas and it pissed most of the people here off. Coupled with the fact we had to deal with the ignorance of Michigan fans, who also had your sentiment that "a non-Pac-10" team belonged...eh...it was just good we won to shut the nay-sayers up. And what's funny, is with OU finally going to be bad next year, Texas has a shot at winning the Big XII and if they go undefeated, they should be high enough in the pre-season rankings to vie for the Rose Bowl again (It's the National Championship Game next year). I personally don't like the Bowl system anyway, and after going here for four years...losing to Oklahoma every damn year...and never winning a big game...it was just good our team did something. Especially when we SHOULD have gone to the National Championship game 4 years ago...but we lost to Colorado in the Bix XII title game...
It was Aaron Rodgers - he had some derrogatory remarks about Texas, the way he worded it made it seem like he was referring to the entire school, not the team itself.
Well, I see where you're coming from. Again, none of this really would have been a big deal - it would have all been just bad feelings for the BCS...but there were remarks made publicly about Texas...and for a month, Texas was bashed hardcore by everyone. Even ESPN.com Rose Bowl page had CAL on the main image, and basically was bashing Texas. So, down here, we had heard enough. Funny how after we won, they asked our QB, Vince Young, if we would be back next year...how quickly people change when you do well...
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Er, you're completely missing the point of the Rose Bowl in that case. I haven't followed Cal football since I left the band years ago, but the point is that the Rose Bowl has always been, for decades, about the Pac-10 schools.
It has not always been this way. A Pac-10 or Big Ten team has not always been represented in the Rose Bowl.
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Since the Pappy Waldorf days in the 40s and 50s Cal's Rose Bowl hopes have been dim (although we came comparatively close my freshman year) and it just royally sucks that the one year Cal could actually have made it the rules were changed and a non-Pac-10 team was chosen -- by a triviality, as I recall.
The year before this, Texas got fucked over by Oklahoma and the stupid BCS rules that a Conference Champion HAS to go to a BCS team. Kansas State beat Oklahoma in the BIX XII championship game last year, and Texas was knocked out of the BCS picture due to rules, not ranking. If Cal fans had anything to be mad at, it is the BCS system and the Non-BCS Conference rule - which Utah's ranking bumped Cal out. Had the rule not been in place, Cal would have gone to the Rose Bowl, Texas to the Fiesta Bowl. But Utah moreso than Texas caused the trouble.
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It's nothing against Texas or its teams, as far as I'm concerned, but I don't think it's really possible for someone outside to understand the enormity of the situation. It has nothing to do with who was selected instead of Cal and everything to do with the BCS changing the rules. Watching another Pac-10 team go to the Rose Bowl, yeah, we're used to that (our team usually sucks, we even have a "fight song" California Can't Win The Game which I still have it memorized), but this...arrgh. Fifty years of waiting to have a good enough team and this happens.
I didn't have anything against Cal and thought it was all the BCS's fault, and that everyone should blame the BCS. Then Aaron Rodgers went around and made stupid remarks about Texas and it pissed most of the people here off. Coupled with the fact we had to deal with the ignorance of Michigan fans, who also had your sentiment that "a non-Pac-10" team belonged...eh...it was just good we won to shut the nay-sayers up. And what's funny, is with OU finally going to be bad next year, Texas has a shot at winning the Big XII and if they go undefeated, they should be high enough in the pre-season rankings to vie for the Rose Bowl again (It's the National Championship Game next year). I personally don't like the Bowl system anyway, and after going here for four years...losing to Oklahoma every damn year...and never winning a big game...it was just good our team did something. Especially when we SHOULD have gone to the National Championship game 4 years ago...but we lost to Colorado in the Bix XII title game...
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That's me as a Cal alum. Me as a former Cal Bandsman agrees (never mind the grammar) that football players can be jerks, although ours usually supported us pretty well. I don't know what our team said that you're referring to and I'm not excusing anything, just trying to give some perspective.
It was Aaron Rodgers - he had some derrogatory remarks about Texas, the way he worded it made it seem like he was referring to the entire school, not the team itself.
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And I hate sports. Razz My sympathy is all for the Cal Band who had hopes of finally marching in the Rose Parade; I don't really care what happens the rest of the day.
Well, I see where you're coming from. Again, none of this really would have been a big deal - it would have all been just bad feelings for the BCS...but there were remarks made publicly about Texas...and for a month, Texas was bashed hardcore by everyone. Even ESPN.com Rose Bowl page had CAL on the main image, and basically was bashing Texas. So, down here, we had heard enough. Funny how after we won, they asked our QB, Vince Young, if we would be back next year...how quickly people change when you do well...
Heh, yeah, I knew I was generalizing about the history of the Rose Bowl, but it wasn't so important that I felt compelled to look it up and find out when exactly it became Pac-10 (or -8 as it may well have been then) vs Big 10. As I said, my entire view of the thing is filtered through being a Cal Band alum and a non-sports fan. I don't like trash talk at all, and I certainly sympathize with the history you outlined. Even though we had a good team my freshman year (9-2 and then a win at the Citrus Bowl, if I recall correctly), it was something like the seventh year in a row we'd lost our Big Game to Stanford.
I didn't follow what happened with the rankings at all, I just heard snips on the radio about how Cal's chances were looking good and it was even a possibility that they could end up booted out of the Rose Bowl contention in the other direction, by getting to the number 2 spot. Which was just weird.
CALFoolio, I think my diploma says May 99, but that's just one of a selection of graduation dates. I took my last class in fall 98, walked with the linguistics dept in May 98, and with the music dept in May 97. (I started in fall 1991.) And now I work for Plant & Microbial Biology, which has nothing at all to do with any class I've taken since AP Bio in in 10th grade. :P
I didn't follow what happened with the rankings at all, I just heard snips on the radio about how Cal's chances were looking good and it was even a possibility that they could end up booted out of the Rose Bowl contention in the other direction, by getting to the number 2 spot. Which was just weird.
CALFoolio, I think my diploma says May 99, but that's just one of a selection of graduation dates. I took my last class in fall 98, walked with the linguistics dept in May 98, and with the music dept in May 97. (I started in fall 1991.) And now I work for Plant & Microbial Biology, which has nothing at all to do with any class I've taken since AP Bio in in 10th grade. :P