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2009-09-25 12:03:33 pm

I did a 45:12 run in a single segment, without saving. I wasn't joking when I said that, saving take 1.22 seconds. Entering the save room, and getting out. Oh, and don't bother taking expansions that aren't on your route. Ignore them, as they will clearly slow you down. Also, what tricks are you talking about ?

PS : I've been playing and SB-ing this game for two years, I think I know what I'm saying. I don't intend to redo one of those "OMG, I'M SO DEAD" run again. Sorry, if you think I'm faking all that, that's your problem, not mine.

samthedigital

2009-09-25 05:04:47 pm

Uh...

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56:04 100% Normal with 7 saves

That is really clear. I collect all items. Why suggest I avoid items when I can't in a 100% run?

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I've been playing and SB-ing this game for two years, I think I know what I'm saying.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. My 100% time is 56:04 (and I have absolutely no idea how you missed that), but my any% time is 29:52 which is considerably better than your run, and I still think that I could do a lot better than that once I actually go about doing another any% run.

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saving take 1.22 seconds.

Saving costs 5 or 6 seconds of time.

P.JMan

2009-09-25 06:16:08 pm

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

Wastes 7 and a half actually. Saving takes 2 seconds, loading takes 5

perfectnote

2009-09-25 06:25:52 pm

Ha ha ha (or rather, lol, like some would say) ! Did I ever said that was my best time ? Nope, I said that was my time for a NO SAVE run (you have to be very careful, because a single death and you have to start all over). I also didn't notice that you were doing a 100% run, I'm sorry for missing that. Sure, collect all the items, then (anyway, you have to). And saving take 1.22 seconds, because saving doesn't register on the system. Walking into the room and getting out.

P.JMan : Was talking about saving, not saving AND loading.

P.JMan

2009-09-25 07:21:08 pm

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

Ahh

spidey-widey

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spidey-widey: 2009-09-25 08:24:28 pm

2009-09-25 08:21:04 pm

Quote from perfectnote:

Did I ever said that was my best time ? Nope, I said that was my time for a NO SAVE run (you have to be very careful, because a single death and you have to start all over).

Given his any% time, sam would utterly crush your single segment. Single segments shouldn't be more than a few minutes slower than an any%.

Quote from samthedigital:

56:04 100% Normal with 7 saves

Without a doubt with this run I should get 55:18 at the very least, but I don't get a good time at the 8th save so I skip it and end up with a time that isn't really proportional to my times in the rest of the run. >_>

Excellent, how is this coming along? Have you improved the 56:04 yet? I want to see what kind of stuff you're doing.

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It's not worth recording if someone does it better than I do, and I think Spidey-Widey might be able to get better than me.

Nonsense, by the sounds of things, I'd be hard pressed to improve 5 seconds on your segmented run (if and when you record one). Besides, I'll probably just go for the SS 100% record. (I still don't really want to submit that 55:49 SS; it has several large errors and I probably don't use a lot of the newest tricks.)

[quote="perfectnote"]Did I ever said that was my best time ? Nope, I said that was my time for a NO SAVE run (you have to be very careful, because a single death and you have to start all over).[/quote]

Given his any% time, sam would utterly crush your single segment.  Single segments shouldn't be more than a few minutes slower than an any%.

[quote="samthedigital"]56:04 100% Normal with 7 saves

Without a doubt with this run I should get 55:18 at the very least, but I don't get a good time at the 8th save so I skip it and end up with a time that isn't really proportional to my times in the rest of the run. >_>[/quote]

Excellent, how is this coming along?  Have you improved the 56:04 yet?  I want to see what kind of stuff you're doing.

[quote="samthedigital"]It's not worth recording if someone does it better than I do, and I think Spidey-Widey might be able to get better than me.[/quote]

Nonsense, by the sounds of things, I'd be hard pressed to improve 5 seconds on your segmented run (if and when you record one).  Besides, I'll probably just go for the SS 100% record.  (I still don't really want to submit that 55:49 SS; it has several large errors and I probably don't use a lot of the newest tricks.)

perfectnote

2009-09-25 08:33:57 pm

Well, I'm sorry for not doing my best. God...I've never said that I could beat him. I just said that save stations were kind of useless, since they're wasting your time.

samthedigital

2009-09-25 09:45:32 pm

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Excellent, how is this coming along? Have you improved the 56:04 yet? I want to see what kind of stuff you're doing.

I am absolutely awful at the Chozo boss. It ruins so many good segments it's sad (which means it's going really slow right now >_>). I am going to record my next run though. It will probably take a lot longer because I want it to be of a higher quality than this run, and I need to get recording equipment too. I would also like to see your 55:47 run though even if you don't put it up on SDA. I might see some stuff that I could use for my run.

On another note, I don't change much from Dragondarch's run. I use a few other shinesparks, but that's about it. I just go faster than him basically, and I found some better ways to tackle some rooms. I've also added some stuff I've seen in other runs I've seen of the game.

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P.JMan : Was talking about saving, not saving AND loading.

What exactly are you talking about? When talking about the difference between using saves to make up for luck and consistency issues and not using them you'd use the time it takes to save and load. Otherwise it seems sort of like useless data. The act of saving is slower than not obviously, but that's not what is implied when I say that saving leads to better times.

[quote]Excellent, how is this coming along?  Have you improved the 56:04 yet?  I want to see what kind of stuff you're doing.[/quote]

I am absolutely awful at the Chozo boss. It ruins so many good segments it's sad (which means it's going really slow right now >_>). I am going to record my next run though. It will probably take a lot longer because I want it to be of a higher quality than this run, and I need to get recording equipment too. I would also like to see your 55:47 run though even if you don't put it up on SDA. I might see some stuff that I could use for my run.

On another note, I don't change much from Dragondarch's run. I use a few other shinesparks, but that's about it. I just go faster than him basically, and I found some better ways to tackle some rooms. I've also added some stuff I've seen in other runs I've seen of the game.

[quote]P.JMan : Was talking about saving, not saving AND loading.[/quote]

What exactly are you talking about? When talking about the difference between using saves to make up for luck and consistency issues and not using them you'd use the time it takes to save and load. Otherwise it seems sort of like useless data. The act of saving is slower than not obviously, but that's not what is implied when I say that saving leads to better times.

Thunder

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Thunder: 2009-11-16 07:11:34 pm

2009-11-16 07:10:23 pm

1:03:47
0 Saves
9%
Normal

And
1:25:07
0 Saves
100%
Normal

Opium

2009-11-16 07:28:00 pm

Quote from Thunder:

1:03:47
0 Saves
9%
Normal

And
1:25:07
0 Saves
100%
Normal

Nice!

JaggerG

2009-11-26 05:20:25 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Must have been playing for months straight. O_o

KarateF22

2009-12-08 05:34:00 am

1:02:19
er.... 4 or 5 saves?
15% (mandatory 9 + 2 super missile tanks, speed booster, screw attack, 2 energy tanks)
Normal

I feel i did pretty decent for my first 15% attempt... did kraid before ridley though instead of ridley before kraid because i wanted to get the screw attack on the way instead of going out of my way to get it, which requires the speed booster to do. Perhaps next time i shall not do so.

KarateF22

2009-12-10 05:09:44 pm

1:13:53
9 saves (3 of em spent on those friggin zebetites for mother brain because i would waste so much time on them and just go back to the last save)
9%
Normal

First 9% run yay!!! I dont know who was more of a pain to kill.... mother brain or iron ted.

JaggerG

2009-12-11 03:39:09 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Should have been Iron Ted. before breaking the glass, I suppose MB is kind of tough, but I don't think the lasers and rinkas do enough damage to really ruin the fun. The rinkas at least keep giving you near-constant refills. Iron Ted's missiles don't come nearly as often, and if they do, they usually come in a combo package, including lasers and likely even a slash.

KarateF22

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KarateF22: 2009-12-11 10:54:32 pm

KarateF22: 2009-12-11 10:53:53 pm

2009-12-11 10:51:50 pm

Quote from JaggerG:

Should have been Iron Ted. before breaking the glass, I suppose MB is kind of tough, but I don't think the lasers and rinkas do enough damage to really ruin the fun. The rinkas at least keep giving you near-constant refills. Iron Ted's missiles don't come nearly as often, and if they do, they usually come in a combo package, including lasers and likely even a slash.

Actually, i found iron ted easier.... the rinkas arent a problem, its those damn spit ball shooters in MB that always knock me into her hyper beam (or whatever its called) when i try to jump over it. Iron ted is extremely difficult at first, but after i figured out that you simply crouch in the corner 90% of the time and fire diagonally upwards, jumping over fireballs and the second most downward lasers, i got it in just three tries. Before Iron ted's second phase, any damage i take is purely careless error, and not bad luck. I never get slashed during phase one, and if it happens its usually during phase two.

[quote="JaggerG"]Should have been Iron Ted. before breaking the glass, I suppose MB is kind of tough, but I don't think the lasers and rinkas do enough damage to really ruin the fun. The rinkas at least keep giving you near-constant refills. Iron Ted's missiles don't come nearly as often, and if they do, they usually come in a combo package, including lasers and likely even a slash.[/quote]

Actually, i found iron ted easier.... the rinkas arent a problem, its those damn spit ball shooters in MB that always knock me into her hyper beam (or whatever its called) when i try to jump over it. Iron ted is extremely difficult at first, but after i figured out that you simply crouch in the corner 90% of the time and fire diagonally upwards, jumping over fireballs and the second most downward lasers, i got it in just three tries. Before Iron ted's second phase, any damage i take is purely careless error, and not bad luck. I never get slashed during phase one, and if it happens its usually during phase two.

tomatobob

2009-12-11 10:58:13 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from KarateF22:

its those damn spit ball shooters in MB that always knock me into her hyper beam (or whatever its called) when i try to jump over it.

Oh cool, it's not just me then. I am consistently impressed by my ability to screw up the Mother Brain fight because of those things.

JaggerG

2009-12-12 05:04:22 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

...Do I just suck that much at fighting Iron Ted? O_o It's never been as simple as simply crouching in the corner and shooting diagonally to Not Get Hit for me.

TheGreenManalishi

2009-12-12 05:46:18 am

Quote from tomatobob:

Quote from KarateF22:

its those damn spit ball shooters in MB that always knock me into her hyper beam (or whatever its called) when i try to jump over it.

Oh cool, it's not just me then. I am consistently impressed by my ability to screw up the Mother Brain fight because of those things.

All it takes is one hit from them and it screws the whole fight, for me. I've actually never beat Iron Ted on 15% because of the laser+missile+swipe combo, gets me every time.

tomatobob

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tomatobob: 2009-12-12 06:47:05 am

2009-12-12 06:46:30 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Every run there is at least one Mother Brain fight where I get hit by one of the pea shooters, bounced into the eye blast, bounced into a Rinka, and land in the lava or end up hanging off the side of one of the blocks, triggering another eye blast and probable juggle. :/ That fight is made of dicks when I don't have the Screw Attack. Which is always.
As for Iron Ted, all of my 15% attempts were just hiding in the corner and praying that the death combo wouldn't happen. On most attempts it didn't and I just botched the whole thing by getting too aggressive and firing more missiles than I should have or just good old fashioned missing wide open shots and causing the fight to go on too long.

I wouldn't call either fight hard, but they both have some tremendous asshole potential.

KarateF22

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KarateF22: 2009-12-13 12:43:31 am

2009-12-13 12:28:28 am

Jagger, ofc its not THAT simple, but essentially thats what i do... the only way to get killed if doing it correctly is when he fires everything at once (instant death) or, in very rare occasions, when his missile swoops low below the beam and scrapes along the floor until it hits you into his claw (only had this happen once).

*EDIT* I'll go ahead and upload a run of me fighting him if you wish to see my tactics (though i highly doubt you'll see anything new or ultra fancy or impressive).

And this is my strategy, its a little sloppy because the recorder lags my computer some.

JaggerG

2009-12-13 08:54:46 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Yeah see it's almost constantly having one hit left to die that bothers me. :^/ Are you supposed to keep him close to you or further back? Looks like you just shot him as many times as possible at any given time, missing half the shots.

KarateF22

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KarateF22: 2009-12-13 10:29:59 pm

2009-12-13 10:27:39 pm

The recorder lagged the game a bit, throwing off my shots.... normally i miss only 1 the entire fight, but the lag makes it suddenly slow down and stutter at the most random times.

As for distance, its typically just personal preference... however, you should choose to do one or the other. I was making an attempt to keep him further away so his hand couldnt block my shots at his missiles most of the time.

Elpis TK31

2009-12-16 08:33:18 pm

Sequence Blocker

I FINALLY got all the endings ^^ thanks to this site, and more specifically the Black Pirates trick, I managed to beat Hard with 15% (Super Missile, Screw Attack, Wave Beam, 3 E-tanks)
it took me 1:28'36 with like 20 retries on mecha ridley (I know, I suck).

I also managed to whip done my SS Time Attack down to 37'09, wich was originally 42'47.
Not bad for a game I hadn't played in 6 months (had the Jap version, but it was stolen so I had to buy a new one, so now I have the EU version >.>) oh, it was 33% btw

Strangely, I have tremendous trouble with regular ibj's, and it's not supposed to be that hard right? I used to be able to do them np, but now that's for diagonal bj's O_O

I also have a 100% SS Normal of 1:03'38, wich is kind of good, but not spectacular I guess.

TheGreenManalishi

2009-12-17 01:49:52 pm

Quote from Elpis TK31:

it took me 1:28'36 with like 20 retries on mecha ridley (I know, I suck).

Don't be ashamed, just read the posts above yours.

KarateF22

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KarateF22: 2009-12-18 12:33:52 am

2009-12-18 12:29:28 am

45:08
0 saves
39%
Normal

Messing up the escape shinespark made me sad. :-(

Ridley and kraid both fell pretty easily. Two metroids got me on seperate occasions in Tourian, was forced to grab energy right before mother brain by camping the green cheerios. Had three unnecessary mother brain laser shots. Ran out of super missiles on mecha ridley and had to use 10 normal missiles. And, as stated above, on the last charge i accidently overshot the ledge and simply fell to the ground because i crouched too late... made me very sad as it cost me two or three whole minutes. Black pirates went fairly typically...