[SM] Super Metroid revolutionEX

2008-09-02 09:58:00 pm

Acclaimed Threshold

Constant Sorrows

Quote from FirePhoenix0:

Okay, I never saw that room, and I'm betting no one else did. How was I supposed to know that I wasn't supposed to get Charge Beam immediately and go through the left door instead? I had to open up SMILE to see that there's a bomb block tunnel leading to that door. For all intents and purposes, it looks inaccessible. If we have to bomb random walls to find the right path, with no graphical hint that those paths exist, there's a serious problem. Worse yet is that once someone goes for the Charge Beam, they're stuck, and if they missed said path to the Grapple Beam, they're stuck in a game-ending problem. That's a serious error that you have on your side Bloodsonic. You have to remember that the player does not necessarily know everything about the hack that you do. You would know to go left to get Grapple, but to the rest of us, it looks right to head for Charge Beam and continue onwards.

Okay, enough rant from me. Time to start over from the beginning I guess, since my last save was in the part I can't escape. ](*,)

Just edit the ROM to make it possible to turn around, that's what I did. :)

Bloodsonic you might want to fix this little problem. It's a shame that such a good hack is so buggy so far. :(

[quote="FirePhoenix0"]
Okay, I never saw that room, and I'm betting no one else did.  How was I supposed to know that I wasn't supposed to get Charge Beam immediately and go through the left door instead?  I had to open up SMILE to see that there's a bomb block tunnel leading to that door.  For all intents and purposes, it looks inaccessible.  If we have to bomb random walls to find the right path, with no graphical hint that those paths exist, there's a serious problem.  Worse yet is that once someone goes for the Charge Beam, they're stuck, and if they missed said path to the Grapple Beam, they're stuck in a game-ending problem.  That's a serious error that you have on your side Bloodsonic.  You have to remember that the player does not necessarily know everything about the hack that you do.  You would know to go left to get Grapple, but to the rest of us, it looks right to head for Charge Beam and continue onwards.

Okay, enough rant from me.  Time to start over from the beginning I guess, since my last save was in the part I can't escape. ](*,)
[/quote]

Just edit the ROM to make it possible to turn around, that's what I did. :)

Bloodsonic you might want to fix this little problem. It's a shame that such a good hack is so buggy so far. :(

Black Telomeres

2008-09-02 10:04:10 pm

Full, half or mini?

Xaggoth

2008-09-02 10:10:24 pm

With FP's grapple hint I'm replaying up to where I was stuck. Being able to hurt these pirates is freakin' sweet.

FirePhoenix

2008-09-02 10:13:05 pm

Attention: It is advisable to get the beam upgrade near Grapple before leaving the mossy area... Makes running past those pirates easier.

Zhs2

2008-09-02 10:35:23 pm

Yo.

Quote from FirePhoenix:

Okay, I never saw that room, and I'm betting no one else did. How was I supposed to know that I wasn't supposed to get Charge Beam immediately and go through the left door instead? I had to open up SMILE to see that there's a bomb block tunnel leading to that door. For all intents and purposes, it looks inaccessible. If we have to bomb random walls to find the right path, with no graphical hint that those paths exist, there's a serious problem. Worse yet is that once someone goes for the Charge Beam, they're stuck, and if they missed said path to the Grapple Beam, they're stuck in a game-ending problem. That's a serious error that you have on your side Bloodsonic. You have to remember that the player does not necessarily know everything about the hack that you do. You would know to go left to get Grapple, but to the rest of us, it looks right to head for Charge Beam and continue onwards.

Wait, what? I don't remember ANYTHING like this when I beta-tested. Can someone put up screenshots of this fatal error, please? BS believes the cause of this error is that Spring Ball isn't showing up, like it should.

Also, I know that posting this here is none too reliable, but since BS says he's done hacking for the night, he wanted me to say here that he'd put up a fixed patch tomorrow at 5 (Eastern Time, 2 hours after this board's time...)

[quote="FirePhoenix"]Okay, I never saw that room, and I'm betting no one else did.  How was I supposed to know that I wasn't supposed to get Charge Beam immediately and go through the left door instead?  I had to open up SMILE to see that there's a bomb block tunnel leading to that door.  For all intents and purposes, it looks inaccessible.  If we have to bomb random walls to find the right path, with no graphical hint that those paths exist, there's a serious problem.  Worse yet is that once someone goes for the Charge Beam, they're stuck, and if they missed said path to the Grapple Beam, they're stuck in a game-ending problem.  That's a serious error that you have on your side Bloodsonic.  You have to remember that the player does not necessarily know everything about the hack that you do.  You would know to go left to get Grapple, but to the rest of us, it looks right to head for Charge Beam and continue onwards.[/quote]

Wait, what? I don't remember ANYTHING like this when I beta-tested. Can someone put up screenshots of this fatal error, please? BS believes the cause of this error is that Spring Ball isn't showing up, like it should.

Also, I know that posting this here is none too reliable, but since BS says he's done hacking for the night, he wanted me to say here that he'd put up a fixed patch tomorrow at 5 (Eastern Time, 2 hours after this board's time...)

FirePhoenix

2008-09-02 11:12:59 pm

Okay, I just beat Phantoon, and have no clue where the upgrade for beating him is. I thought I was on the right track, then I hit a dead end with a missile tank and a drained Torizo....

Sturmvogel Prime

2008-09-02 11:55:19 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

I can't find the Grapple beam.

aigamerDS

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aigamerDS: 2008-09-03 04:28:22 am

2008-09-03 01:01:55 am

I'm gonna try this soon.

Edit: Now I'm stuck somewhere where I'm in underwater and the grapple block. I guess you didn't add a slope there. I will upload image as soon as my computer let me.

Edit2: I got the picture. Sorry for the huge picture since I couldn't crop. As you can see, Bloodsonic forgot to add a slope for that morph ball tunnel and end up, you could get stuck here.

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Xaggoth

2008-09-03 03:38:18 am

Quote from FirePhoenix0:

Okay, I just beat Phantoon, and have no clue where the upgrade for beating him is. I thought I was on the right track, then I hit a dead end with a missile tank and a drained Torizo....

I am stuck in this area too and I can't seem to backtrack.

If the dachora is supposed to do something I don't have enough power bombs to let it out and things don't want to drop more bombs

Sadiztik Fish

2008-09-03 05:44:31 am

OMG FLAN!!!!!!!

Quote from Xaggoth:

Quote from FirePhoenix0:

Okay, I just beat Phantoon, and have no clue where the upgrade for beating him is. I thought I was on the right track, then I hit a dead end with a missile tank and a drained Torizo....

I am stuck in this area too and I can't seem to backtrack.

If the dachora is supposed to do something I don't have enough power bombs to let it out and things don't want to drop more bombs

Open the ROM in SMILE, and change the enemy DNA so that they drop Power bombs? Just a thought.

Im playing it now. Pretty good hack.

GAH I SHOULD BE WORKING ON SM: IMPULSION, NOT PLAYING OTHER PEOPLES HACKS. BAD BAD BAD!!!

FirePhoenix

2008-09-03 09:43:55 am

I don't even have power bombs... I got Ice Beam and couldn't think of where I could use it to advance. Then I just ran around some more and found Phantoon.

Opium

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Opium: 2008-09-03 11:47:12 am

2008-09-03 11:01:14 am

I just beat spore spawn and...

Im trying to do an nasty hells run, but am not getting close even with no mistakes. Am i on the right track?

EDIT: Theres no way Im supposed to be at ridley right now, hanging this up until the new patch comes out. Right now it's either Ridley or find springball, and both seem impossible.

Zhs2

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Zhs2: 2008-09-03 09:36:30 pm

2008-09-03 12:53:31 pm

Yo.

Ok, if this message system deletes EVERY SINGLE THING I TYPE AGAIN, I give up. It was a really long message, trust me.

So, time to answer people's questions... First things first, though.

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Spring Ball IS missing. Its intended location will be shown in the attached screenshot. IMO, it will also be best to hold off on this hack until all issues (Spring Ball, most slopes) are fixed. Hopefully, next time BS makes a hack, he'll wait to release it until it's been fully tested.

For those who need to know, the (as of now, incomplete to keep the spoilers out) MAJOR ITEM ORDER:

1. Missiles
2. Morph Ball
3. Speed Booster
4. Bombs
5. Charge Beam
6. Spring Ball (which is MISSING!)
7. Grapple
8. Wave

As prime beta tester (and the one who these thought up,) I present the AREA NAMES (Names of places that share a common theme):

The 5 rooms that encompass the Ship, between the Speed Booster room and Bombs: Landing Site (Yeah, I know, real original...)
All rooms with greens growing on the wall, and the nearby blue tunnels: Moss Tunnel
The red caves accessed from Moss Tunnel's blue tunnel, which includes the Hell's Run: Hot Caverns
Icy area accessed from the Landing Site's Ship room: Snowy Ruins

Other areas to be revealed at the player's discretion. Official names of later areas will pop up eventually, either when people reach them, or after a while....

Now, for people's questions.

For Grapple, if you've managed to reach a tall room with Blue 'Troids in it, therein lies the secret... search the right wall, at the very bottom.

Phantoom can beaten immediately after...

Grapple.

However, it's best to wait until you have...

Power Bombs, which are unreachable for now. Sorry, but you'll have to wait 'til this afternoon...

@ aigamerDS: Thanks for pointing this out. I'm sure, since somebody else beside me had actually said something about it, that BS will fix this. Also: Use Alt+Printscreen, not just Printscreen. And nice use of BS's custom Morph Ball in your avatar... aiwebs_008

@ FirePhoenix0:

The Dachora is a lie! However...

He gives you a pretty good idea of what to do next. When you free him.

@ Opium:

Guess what?

Ridley is a part of the Hell's Run!

@ Everyone:

I know I'm not the hacker, but my sincerest apologies to all for this massive bug. I, too, hope to see it fixed soon.

EDIT: There WAS a screenshot here, but it's gone now. The screenshot was a lie!

Ok, if this message system deletes EVERY SINGLE THING I TYPE AGAIN, I give up. It was a really long message, trust me.

So, time to answer people's questions... First things first, though.

[color=red][b]MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:[/b][/color] Spring Ball IS missing. Its intended location will be shown in the attached screenshot. IMO, it will also be best to hold off on this hack until all issues (Spring Ball, most slopes) are fixed. Hopefully, next time BS makes a hack, he'll wait to release it until it's been fully tested.

For those who need to know, the (as of now, incomplete to keep the spoilers out) MAJOR ITEM ORDER:
[spoiler]
1. Missiles
2. Morph Ball
3. Speed Booster
4. Bombs
5. Charge Beam
6. Spring Ball (which is MISSING!)
7. Grapple
8. Wave
[/spoiler]

As prime beta tester (and the one who these thought up,) I present the AREA NAMES (Names of places that share a common theme):

The 5 rooms that encompass the Ship, between the Speed Booster room and Bombs: [b][color=blue]Landing Site[/color][/b] (Yeah, I know, real original...)
All rooms with greens growing on the wall, and the nearby blue tunnels: [color=limegreen][b]Moss Tunnel[/b][/color]
The red caves accessed from [b][color=limegreen]Moss Tunnel's[/color][/b] blue tunnel, which includes the Hell's Run: [color=red][b]Hot Caverns[/b][/color]
Icy area accessed from the [b][color=blue]Landing Site's[/color][/b] Ship room: [b][color=teal]Snowy Ruins[/color][/b]

Other areas to be revealed at the player's discretion. Official names of later areas will pop up eventually, either when people reach them, or after a while....

Now, for people's questions.

For Grapple, if you've managed to reach a tall room with Blue 'Troids in it, therein lies the secret... search the right wall, at the very bottom.

Phantoom can beaten immediately after...[spoiler]Grapple.[/spoiler]However, it's best to wait until you have...[spoiler]Power Bombs, which are unreachable for now. Sorry, but you'll have to wait 'til this afternoon...[/spoiler]

@ aigamerDS: Thanks for pointing this out. I'm sure, since somebody else beside me had actually said something about it, that BS will fix this. Also: Use Alt+Printscreen, not just Printscreen. And nice use of BS's custom Morph Ball in your avatar...  [aiwebs_008]

@ FirePhoenix0:

The Dachora is a lie! However... [spoiler]He gives you a pretty good idea of what to do next. When you free him.[/spoiler]

@ Opium:

Guess what?[spoiler]Ridley is a part of the Hell's Run![/spoiler]

@ Everyone:

I know I'm not the hacker, but my sincerest apologies to all for this massive bug. I, too, hope to see it fixed soon.

EDIT: There WAS a screenshot here, but it's gone now. The screenshot was a lie!

reaper901

2008-09-03 01:00:24 pm

the metroid is a lie !

imo its a good hack but all the slope problems make me wanna wait until someone can be bothered to fix it.

Opium

2008-09-03 01:30:43 pm

omg...i cant beat ridley with 3 energy tanks, 20 missiles, grapple, and no supers....

Zhs2

2008-09-03 01:44:15 pm

Yo.

It IS Ridley... but fear not. He has MUCH less health, so don't be discouraged. Also, his damage output is somewhat lessened, provided you do NOT get hit by his tail. Hope this is a confidence booster~ grin new

Opium

2008-09-03 01:53:11 pm

Quote from zhs2:

It IS Ridley... but fear not. He has MUCH less health, so don't be discouraged. Also, his damage output is somewhat lessened, provided you do NOT get hit by his tail. Hope this is a confidence booster~ grin new

I'll try it again, thanks. Not sure if I should just wait though, since I don;t want to get to the part where I need the missing springball.

Zhs2

2008-09-03 01:56:57 pm

Yo.

I believe you should. From what other posters said, there are slope problems impassable without the Spring Ball. Whoops, silly me, I didn't post that screenshot yet...

Xaggoth

2008-09-03 02:00:35 pm

Replayed from a point where I could get power bomb drops and went back to the dachora, but if he was just supposed to tell me to go up and right I was already over there. I've been trying to gravity jump up the shaft with the zoomers, but that doesn't seem to be possible. I can't backtrack since there are speedboost blocks in the upper left of the dachora, soo.... ?

namespoofer

2008-09-03 02:04:12 pm

Trained by Cpadolf. Mission: To Perfect.

Quote from Opium:

Quote from zhs2:

It IS Ridley... but fear not. He has MUCH less health, so don't be discouraged. Also, his damage output is somewhat lessened, provided you do NOT get hit by his tail. Hope this is a confidence booster~ grin new

I'll try it again, thanks. Not sure if I should just wait though, since I don;t want to get to the part where I need the missing springball.

Ridley has only 1,500 health, or, 15 missles. You can launch over 10 of them when he begins to open his mouth and the last few as he begins to rise.

Bloodsonic

2008-09-03 02:51:56 pm

Hi, guys, and sorry for yesterday's epic failure.
I will be putting up an update(FIRST POST) in a couple seconds fixing the missing springball(wtf?)
and a fatal slope glitch.

MoogleEmperor

2008-09-03 03:04:57 pm

The slope problem was fixed, but I'm still not finding the Springball there...

Bloodsonic

2008-09-03 03:10:27 pm

When you go down the (used to be) maridia tube into the moss place, go two rooms to the left.
(the big blue room.) there should be some funky looking tiles. springball is on it.. right?

namespoofer

2008-09-03 03:15:33 pm

Trained by Cpadolf. Mission: To Perfect.

This room?

Negative

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Bloodsonic

2008-09-03 03:17:15 pm

Another epic faiure by me eh?
sorry, go right.