what would be the best for 15% normal runs

2004-05-10 11:36:18 pm

I wnet with 3 e tanks and 2 extra missles and screw attack what do you guys think

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2004-05-10 11:42:19 pm

I took 3 Super Missiles, 2 Energy Tanks, and the Screw Attack and I was fine. If you want you can get an Energy Tanks instead of the Screw Attack, but I took the S.A. for Mother Brain. Anywho, that's what I'd recommend for someone who has trouble on MB. If you can beat her without it, I'd suggest another Energy Tank or maybe even the Long Beam or Hi-Jump.

professor_scissors

2004-05-11 01:38:17 am

I went 1 Energy Tank, 3 Super Tanks, Screw Attack, and Hi-Jump.

Toozin

2004-05-11 02:34:30 am

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I believe the consensus is that Hi-Jump is a waste of time, at least in any %. I immagine 15% would be the same.

Stonefish

2004-05-11 09:24:29 am

Okay, riddle me this...

In a standard run, NO breaks at all, where is the Hi Jump meant to be used? I didn't even miss it when I bypassed it.

The escape run is simple without it, every jump I can find is well within reach of the power grip.

The Varia Suit, maybe? That's a truly optional item anyway. There's what, three hot rooms in the game?

=Prime Killer=

2004-05-11 02:57:54 pm

^More hot rooms than that,including the ones in Ridley and Norfair,including coridors,not just big rooms. 8)
You can bypass them All,I'm not kidding. You can go through without Varia and still make it through.

Yoshi348

2004-05-11 06:29:33 pm

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Quote from Toozin:

I believe the consensus is that Hi-Jump is a waste of time, at least in any %.

Actually, unless things have changed recently, I thought any%er's got the high jump, 'cause it saved enough time considering that you can morph jump, and that it makes space jumping faster. :?

Stonefish

2004-05-12 01:34:08 am

I actually do the mother brain escape run faster without it. Don't know why. Guess I have more control and rhythym with the power grip.

Xin

2004-05-12 01:00:39 pm

Quote from Yoshi348:

Quote from Toozin:

I believe the consensus is that Hi-Jump is a waste of time, at least in any %.

Actually, unless things have changed recently, I thought any%er's got the high jump, 'cause it saved enough time considering that you can morph jump, and that it makes space jumping faster. :?

Radix and GameCube04 recently decided the best any-percent route included the high-jump. So yes, the any-percent routes do include the high jump right now.

Dragondarch

2004-05-12 03:33:34 pm

You might as well get Varia since they give it to you later when you get the fully powered suit, regardless of whether you got it or not (and yes it counts for 1%)

Toozin

2004-05-12 03:49:12 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Well I reckon I misrecalled.

Quote from Dragondarch:

You might as well get Varia since they give it to you later when you get the fully powered suit, regardless of whether you got it or not (and yes it counts for 1%)

Actually, if you're going for speed, that's exactly the reason NOT to get it.

Dragondarch

2004-05-12 08:12:17 pm

The way the topic is labelled I read it as what would be the best items to pick up. For a speed run I'd agree to skip it, but if he's just goin' for 15% and not time then he might as well grab it since they give it to him later.

professor_scissors

2004-05-12 09:15:17 pm

Quote from Toozin:

Well I reckon I misrecalled.

Quote from Dragondarch:

You might as well get Varia since they give it to you later when you get the fully powered suit, regardless of whether you got it or not (and yes it counts for 1%)

Actually, if you're going for speed, that's exactly the reason NOT to get it.

If you aren't gonna get it, doesn't that out-rule getting the Screw Attack?

Yoshi348

2004-05-13 12:55:51 am

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Quote from professor_scissors:

Quote from Toozin:

Well I reckon I misrecalled.

Quote from Dragondarch:

You might as well get Varia since they give it to you later when you get the fully powered suit, regardless of whether you got it or not (and yes it counts for 1%)

Actually, if you're going for speed, that's exactly the reason NOT to get it.

If you aren't gonna get it, doesn't that out-rule getting the Screw Attack?

Yep. Screw Attack isn't used in any%.

Electrometer Prime

2004-05-13 07:17:43 am

3 Energy, 2 Supers, and the Screw Attack.

MetalRidley

2004-05-13 07:48:39 am

^ Swap an etank for a super, since six supers make MB and Robo Ridley as fast as can be, and you don't really need the energy.

JaggerG

2004-05-13 10:06:33 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

I believe 4 supers, speed boost, hi-jump is best (8 supers for MB, plus I almost always miss MR with one shot, killing the speed kill). You may swap high jump for Screw Attack if MB's Cheerios of DOOM are too much....

Yoshi348

2004-05-13 06:47:06 pm

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Speed boost?!? Maybe if you're running or something, but it's not great at all.

beach__master

2004-05-13 08:01:49 pm

Call me crazy, but I always grab the long beam on a 15% run. i just find it to be easier to snipe enemies at range rather than kill myself getting to close (especially the damn fly pods in Brinstar). :x Also, 2 super tanks and 3 energy tanks.

JaggerG

2004-05-13 09:57:08 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Oh, oops, I misread it. I saw the word "run" and assumed he was speed running it. Well, For the above poster (next one above me, not everyone above me) swap an Energy Tank for Screw Attack. Trust me.

beach__master

2004-05-13 10:03:42 pm

Quote from JaggerG:

Well, For the above poster (next one above me, not everyone above me) swap an Energy Tank for Screw Attack. Trust me.

Hmmm... I played through a normal difficulty 15% run w/o screw attack, and never found a place where i needed it. The rinkas weren't a problem for me, (freeze 2, no more will come until thse 2 are destroyed) and I stayed on the right-side platform so the guns couldn't hit me. I never died facing MB, i found that a short hop over the "mind beam" dodges it and kept me out of strike range of the turrets.

If i ever get around to a hard mode 15%, i probably will grab the SA, though. It would make later parts of the game easier.

JaggerG

2004-05-14 03:32:38 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Well, the pirates in the escape run are just plain annoying, huh? For a while I thought I'd need it, but then with the ice beam, they aren't really as bad as I thought.

savage-monkey

2004-05-22 11:57:16 am

how do you skip sa I thought you were forced to get it after being shot up from the ball shooter after ridley.

Yoshi348

2004-05-22 12:34:10 pm

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Quote from savage-monkey:

how do you skip sa I thought you were forced to get it after being shot up from the ball shooter after ridley.

There's like three ball shooters there. 2 on the right, that aren't down the long-butt corridor.