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Everyone seems to think 1% is the optimal percent.  I don't agree with this.  Do you all remember Sess's Arachnus fight?  He had to take Arachnus out in three rounds.  He said that with 10 missiles, you could defeat it in two if you took damage.  But if you grab a missile tank before Arachnus, you can defeat it in one round.  According to the missile cost list, the first missile tank takes three seconds to grab.  That one missile tank will probably make up more than three seconds at Arachnus alone.  Right now, you may be thinking, "A few seconds, big deal".  But later on, that missile tank (or two) will help a lot.  There are a couple other missile tanks that take less than five seconds to grab.  So, I think the real optimal percent is about 2% or 3%.  (It would be faster to skip bob and grab another missile tank, but who's going to skip bob to lower their any% time by 10-20 seconds?)
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there are a couple of expansions along the way that are no-brainers to grab (even energy tanks, but i only grab Etanks so i dont have to redo segments). I always ended up with about 11%, but i always grabbed the useless power bomb expansion in lower left S5.
I don't grab any e-tanks.  It makes things a lot more difficult later on, but I figure if Sess can do it, any human can, given enough time.  And I have a lot of patience.  I don't know why you'd grab that pb tank, though...
it may be the case that taking the time to pick up the tank before arachnus gives you enough life to make the time up and then some doing a suicide box or box ii. but i'm waiting to hear what tdk has to say.
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You can defeat Arahnus in 1 round Wink
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BioSpark: 2008-04-23 05:16:45 pm
I think it's faster to use e-tanks, bcause :
1. You have to dodge enemys attacks.
2. Some of them take long to skip( this one right before Yakuza)
3. It SAVES tme to get one of NOC ( Directly before the SA-x because if you lay a bomb it'll explode WHILE " Energy Tank acquired" is on the screen!)
always move fast
iirc time still runs when "you got item LOL" is onscreen.
that is correct.
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it may be the case that taking the time to pick up the tank before arachnus gives you enough life to make the time up and then some doing a suicide box or box ii. but i'm waiting to hear what tdk has to say.

I always have full life before Arachnus anyway, and with WD's BOX strategies, you don't get hit by BOX at all.  Sess seemed to manage just fine without any e-tanks.  I think 99 health is enough to get hit and save time occasionally. 

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I think it's faster to use e-tanks, because :
1. You have to dodge enemy's attacks.
2. Some of them take take long to skip (this one right before Yakuza)
3. It SAVES time to get one of NOC (Directly before the SA-x because if you lay a bomb it'll explode WHILE "Energy Tank acquired" is on the screen!)

1. As demonstrated by Sess, you can defeat any enemies in the way while still running.
2. I can skip that about 99% of the time.  I don't see how getting it would save time.

I'm also curious about what tdk has to say.
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
I'm gonna save tdk a bit of time and say, there is 128 frames (exactly 2 in-game seconds) where the is nothing you can do, not even shoot
Where in the game are these 128 frames?  I don't know what you're talking about.  Also, 120 frames is two seconds, not 128, IIRC.
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There's acctually 64 frames in an in-game second (Dum I know)

and I was talking about the Message saying "In case you haven't realised, your Energy has gone up"
Oh, ok.

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64 frames in an in-game second

This whole time, I've been mislead!  Nooooooo!  Oh well.
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No, he's just wrong.
About the frame rate, I remember seeing somewhere that it is 59 and some decimal per second.

About the optimal %, extra missle tanks are still worth getting because of the time saved on Nightmare, Yakuza, Nettori, and others. To me, extra energy tanks arent neccessary because in every situation where taking damage will save time will never take away more than 99 health.

For the percent, I would say 5 or 6% would be minimum, any lower and some bosses are harder, and any higher, the boss fights might get a bit easier (not neccessarlily save time though) but you would waste some time picking up the extra missles.

If I were to do an any% run, I would most likely pick up 5 missle tanks including bob, making my percent 5.
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
Just remember you can save 37 seconds and 5 frames by getting 2 Missile Tanks Wink

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No, he's just wrong.

Don't make it seem like I dont know what I'm talking about

This is the way your ending time is Recorded: 64 Frames in 1 Second, 60 Seconds in a Minute, 60 Minutes in an Hour

See for your self, Go into Tools - Debug - Memory Viewer... and put Automatic update, Decimal Display and 8-bit on.

Type 03000139 in, Press Go
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BioSpark: 2008-04-23 05:23:20 pm
Quote from bartendorsparky:
iirc time still runs when "you got item LOL" is onscreen.


Then it's better without E-tanks.
Quote from P.JMan:
Just remember you can save 37 seconds and 5 frames by getting 2 Missile Tanks Wink

Quote from Yoshi348:
No, he's just wrong.

Don't make it seem like I dont know what I'm talking about

This is the way your ending time is Recorded: 64 Frames in 1 Second, 60 Seconds in a Minute, 60 Minutes in an Hour

See for your self, Go into Tools - Debug - Memory Viewer... and put Automatic update, Decimal Display and 8-bit on.

Type 03000139 in, Press Go

ah, so you mean the number of in-game seconds is counted by the number of times 64 frames pass. that makes more sense. we thought you meant the number of real time seconds, which is of course about 60 frames in one second. thanks for the info.
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Um, does that mean we're in trouble?
as long as it's doing that consistently i don't see how it could be a problem for sda.
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Just remember you can save 37 seconds and 5 frames by getting 2 Missile Tanks Wink

Do you mean grabbing exactly 2 missile tanks saves that much time, or getting at least 2 missile tanks saves at least that much time?