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tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:20:33 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from arkarian:
oh, well i'm american so i don't know what that is

~Southern Pride~
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:20:40 pm
red chamber dream
are you kidding? plenty of people in china are doing just fine lol
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:20:45 pm
red chamber dream
and plenty are very rich too
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:20:51 pm
red chamber dream
that's why china's so weird
tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:21:03 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
I mean people who matter.
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:21:08 pm
red chamber dream
it's like simultaneously really productive and rich while also fucking horrible
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:21:33 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from tomatobob:
I mean people who matter.

china's middle class is huge lol
tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:21:40 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
But those people also have no reason to care about that.
Idkbutlike2
2012-08-20 10:21:48 pm
That's what communism does to a country: creates a huge class gap.
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:21:54 pm
red chamber dream
bigger than the entire us iirc
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:22:06 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from Idkbutlike2:
That's what communism does to a country: creates a huge class gap.

yeah exactly, it's really interesting to watch
tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:22:45 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
I mean if you're going to romanticize your countries past you're probably not someone benefiting greatly from the countries present.
Idkbutlike2
2012-08-20 10:22:46 pm
It's rather contradictory to its philosophy, though. Then again, who really gives two shits about Marx or Lenin anymore?
tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:23:20 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Lenin didn't care much for Marx's philosophy anyway tbh.
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:23:29 pm
red chamber dream
that's because it's flawed and doesn't work lol
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:23:59 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from tomatobob:
I mean if you're going to romanticize your countries past you're probably not someone benefiting greatly from the countries present.

i think it's hard to say since we're american and don't have a past lol
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:24:03 pm
red chamber dream
go 200 years
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:24:13 pm
red chamber dream
maybe 300 if you want to stretch
Idkbutlike2
Idkbutlike2
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Idkbutlike2: 2012-08-20 10:25:38 pm
Idkbutlike2: 2012-08-20 10:25:14 pm
2012-08-20 10:24:27 pm
No, he did, but he got killed before he could implement anything. Then Trotsky got ousted by Stalin, who was even more deviant from Marx's ideas.
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:24:51 pm
red chamber dream
i don't think that word means what you think it means
tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:25:02 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
It's more like a bunch of nice ideas that don't really take into account the "Hey I want power" part of people.
Idkbutlike2
Idkbutlike2
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Idkbutlike2: 2012-08-20 10:26:10 pm
2012-08-20 10:25:22 pm
The shit...?

Well, that was bizarre.
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:26:06 pm
red chamber dream
yeah tbob like i said, it doesn't work
arkarian
2012-08-20 10:27:07 pm
red chamber dream
i think it's flawed beyond pure human selfishness though
tomatobob
2012-08-20 10:27:18 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from arkarian:
i think it's hard to say since we're american and don't have a past lol

~Southern Pride~