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red chamber dream
the track is definitely all about the vocals and mood for me
it's the obnoxious synth or whatever they used lol, probably nothing wrong with the actual tune

but i am an old man and do not appreciate the finer points of modern popular music production, pretty much all of which sounds crap to me
red chamber dream
i get what you mean in terms of it sounding like it was too easy for them to make lol

i dunno about obnoxious, i would've hated this 5 years ago but i like the contrast between the cutting synth and chill everything else
red chamber dream
it does this weird thing where it shifts to a lower range near the end, pretty cool
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arkarian: 2019-04-30 08:21:07 pm
red chamber dream
pretty sure a lot of songs sound like this nowadays, is that what makes it trap music? i have no idea what that genre means
Bee Gee's - Night Fever

ark no i don't know either but it might be yeah
red chamber dream
i dug that. never heard of japan, but it sounds very 70s or maybe even 80s
they were new romantics I think so early 80s probably
one of those weird bands that lots of people seem to cite as a low key influence
red chamber dream
probably why it sounds ahead of its time - just checked it's from 79
The new Freddie Gibbs album is pretty good.
red chamber dream
i recently got into 2pac beyond just a few tracks and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

2pac is fucking awesome
red chamber dream
how did i not know this for so long
red chamber dream
i've only really listened to all eyez on me but that album is stellar ... i love almost every track
red chamber dream


current fav track
Honestly, his albums prior to it are just okay. 2pac might be the most technically skilled rapper ever, but his actual songwriting kind of took a while to get really good. All Eyez on Me is definitely his peak.
red chamber dream
was dr dre on any of them? that might be why aeom is so great tbh
Oh derp. I completely forgot about Me Against the World. That album is also great. It's the one that really put 2pac on the map.

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was dr dre on any of them? that might be why aeom is so great tbh

No, and part of the issue with Pac is that he was just some dude from Interscope for the first few years of his career. He didn't get big until he started hanging around Death Row and rappers like Biggie... only to then burn those bridges in the span of a couple of months and ending up shot dead by late 1996.
red chamber dream
the man definitely was against the world, heh
red chamber dream
i did listen to me against the world once the other night but don't remember any of it

it's definitely next up once i get a little tired of aeom
red chamber dream
i remember really liking it though
It's kind of sad what happened to the guy. He survived a shooting and had to go through multiple incarcerations for questionable reasons. By the time he got out of a jail term in 1996, he turned into a massively jaded asshole who lashed out at a lot of old friends. Combine that with him constantly trying to look tough and continue to engage in street life and it's no surprise how he ended up in as bad of a situation as he did. If you talk a lot of shit, sooner or later someone's gonna want to shut you the fuck up. And that's how 2pac went.

What's bizarre is that he wasn't always like this. Check out this old interview from 1988. Talk about a change of scene.
red chamber dream
i'll watch that when i'm sober for sure

yeah it's fascinating really, sure made for some good music