wall you cant wall jump off of!

2005-02-04 05:52:10 pm

oh wait, i cant post a video anyways, cuz i dont have a video to begin with! stupud gba, i cant make a video without using a rom and going all the way back through the game and then getting to it again Embarassed

Its just before where you get ur suit back, i hope this comes out right.
Oh, and one more thing, according to zero mission, samus has had 2 suits so far, her first chozo one, and the replacement from the mirrory boss thing! also, if she got another one, if she hadent blown up zebes, she would have been able to get a new suit after fusion.

2005-02-04 06:59:56 pm

lol no way

We know about the 2 suits thing.

If you could possibly explain where this wall is, I could test it out.

2005-02-07 03:46:24 pm

ok, just a sec, i havent been able to get o recently, but ill make a map, its in the room right before the mirror boss, and after the save point

Code:

______________
.............|
_____.......|
....X.......|
....X.....__|
|.........|
|__......|
...|....|
___|....|
D.......|
D_____|

lemme take a sec to tweak this a little... ok, done, thats the best ill geti it Rolling Eyes

D= door you came from
.= air or unused space
X= wall you cant jump offa

Sorry i cant get a video, but bear with me,, im trying NOT to have to download a rom, as that would be my only way to make a video :(

trh

2005-02-07 04:49:15 pm

Edited in Code tags, so it'll display properly for all layouts.. Just too bad Underline tags wont work, just imagine that the part to the left and underneath the second X has an underline.. Rolling Eyes

2005-02-07 06:49:42 pm

lol no way

I'll run through the game now and edit this post after I test your discovery.

Edit: Ok. I can walljump off of it... I would say this is false. Thanks though.

tomatobob

2005-02-07 09:15:51 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Yeah, I was about to say that I made a point to walljump up that room once or twice...

2005-02-08 04:48:36 pm

I can't seem to be able to WJ there either when I play. I usually wj on the first left plateau & then to the right & finally grab the ledge at the top. also, if you jump right while hanging at the top, the boost vertically (I think) is much higher than normal & the recovery time is much shorter too (recovery between grabbing & being able to jump off it). That too, is the only place I have managed that. You need to jump to the right almost immediately after grabbing the ledge though. It gets you on top to the way towards the boss quite fast imho.

2005-02-08 05:06:32 pm

and i was hoping i had made a second ZM discovery...

*edit, oh i did make one, according to alec, it seems to get to the boss faster, nate, would that count?

2005-02-08 06:06:52 pm

lol no way

Except it's faster still to just walljump off the wall and get up there. I would say it might be a cart-specific thing but I've recently gotten to thinking that cart-specific glitches aren't real. Like, it just doesn't make sense to me. *shrug*

Shockna

2005-02-08 06:13:38 pm

Quote from Supuh:

ok, just a sec, i havent been able to get o recently, but ill make a map, its in the room right before the mirror boss, and after the save point

Code:

______________
.............|
_____.......|
....X.......|
....X.....__|
|.........|
|__......|
...|....|
___|....|
D.......|
D_____|

lemme take a sec to tweak this a little... ok, done, thats the best ill geti it Rolling Eyes

D= door you came from
.= air or unused space
X= wall you cant jump offa

Sorry i cant get a video, but bear with me,, im trying NOT to have to download a rom, as that would be my only way to make a video :(

Wouldnt a capture card work?

Yoshi348

2005-02-08 06:17:55 pm

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Ready and willing.

Erm, that's a little expensive. And did you need to quote the entire gigantic post?

tomatobob

2005-02-08 10:59:17 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Yes, Yes he did. >_>

2005-02-09 12:14:47 pm

I'm currently on my way to Ridley (can't stop playing this game :D) but when I get to that room again, I can check if I can redo either of these tricks. I'm quite certain that I have never been able to walljump there. And yesterday, walljumping did not work in the room where you have to fire 4 missiles to gain access to the Screw Attack. I have found that it is also easier to walljump if you try it near the top or near the bottom of a ledge/wall. The middle is antiWJ from time to time & it can happen practically anywhere in the game AFAIK. Strange.

2005-02-09 04:05:39 pm

so, does that mean that there are a few things found out now from my lame little discovery? that certain walls are harder to walljump off of then others, oh, and yes, the reason why i havent been typing lately is cuz i got a capyture cardy thingy, and well, i got a video! (not like itll do anything cuz its been disprooved)

edit: NOOO!!! my capture card tapes in a nonacceptable thing by the uploader??!?!?!? WTF? -.- this sucks, i just wasted 50 bucks :(

2005-02-09 04:40:02 pm

Well it could just be me being stupid & no able to do walljumps correctly though. Or my GBASP has weird buttons.

Zeke

2005-02-09 04:41:35 pm

Time bomb set get out fast!

Just for the record, you can't "wall jump off of" any of the walls in the game. You can wall jump off them, though....

2005-02-09 05:25:45 pm

-.- , yeah, and i read theres no rom things allowed on these forums, but that would be my only option, considering my capture card sucks

Yoshi348

2005-02-09 06:00:31 pm

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Ready and willing.

No, the rules are no providing or asking for links to roms, and no using emulators for a speed run. Emulator vids as illustration is just fine.

2005-02-09 06:08:01 pm

lol no way

I don't mean to be rude, but... eh, I don't believe you Alec. I've never had any trouble walljumping off any wall in the entire game. And that thing about walljumping off the top or bottom but not the side? I think that's bogus too.

Don't hate me.

2005-02-09 07:16:54 pm

Quote from ajbolt89:

I don't mean to be rude, but... eh, I don't believe you Alec. I've never had any trouble walljumping off any wall in the entire game. And that thing about walljumping off the top or bottom but not the side? I think that's bogus too.

Don't hate me.

You're right. It probably is bogus but that's my weird explanation for not being able to walljump whenever I want to, which for me, happens when I don't want it to practically ;) You are obviously a better player at this game than I ever will be & if you have never experienced it, then it must be me or my head :D

Maybe I find it easier to walljump near edges because that's where you can grab on if you want to. Something about the coding perhaps? I don't know. The wall that would not work yesterday had, of course, 90 degree angles but the middle section (vertically) was kinda bent inwards but I don't know if those "missing" pixels has anything to do with being able to walljump or not.

Or, it could simply be that I can't get close enough to the walls :D which, near the Screw Attack is VERY hard to accomplish imho. Samus can hardly fit at all between the left wall & the right there.

[quote="ajbolt89"]I don't mean to be rude, but... eh, I don't believe you Alec. I've never had any trouble walljumping off any wall in the [i]entire game[/i]. And that thing about walljumping off the top or bottom but not the side? I think that's bogus too.

Don't hate me.[/quote]You're right. It probably is bogus but that's my weird explanation for not being able to walljump whenever I want to, which for me, happens when I don't want it to practically ;) You are obviously a better player at this game than I ever will be & if you have never experienced it, then it must be me or my head :D

Maybe I find it easier to walljump near edges because that's where you can grab on if you want to. Something about the coding perhaps? I don't know. The wall that would not work yesterday had, of course, 90 degree angles but the middle section (vertically) was kinda bent inwards but I don't know if those "missing" pixels has anything to do with being able to walljump or not.

Or, it could simply be that I can't get close enough to the walls :D which, near the Screw Attack is VERY hard to accomplish imho. Samus can hardly fit at all between the left wall & the right there.

2005-02-10 01:26:00 am

lol no way

Yeah, but you're spinning either direction while in a tight place like that, then press the opposite and the jump button, she'll still bounce.