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Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
v1 from s.uk
v2 here

I thought the previous version had been too long and hard to read through, much like nate's penis, so I'm recreating it here. The thread, not nate's penis. And so, ladies and gentlemen of congress, I intend to filibuster!

Nah, jk. Rules!
1) All 10 canon games' in-game completion times are counted in your total time, even if you've not beaten them.
1b) Since Metroid 1 does not display in-game time, use RTA timing.
2) If a game is uncompleted, it is listed as 20 hours.
3) If you've completed the game, but do not recall your time, it is 15 hours.
3a) If it took longer than 15 hours, your time sucks. Forget your time and mark it as 15 hours.
4) Ignore seconds. This is a casual leaderboard, most of our times suck, sticking to hours:minutes makes it easier for me.
5) Other M apparently has a completion time. Use the time on your save file after beating the post-credits boss and escape sequence.
5b) Other M's Hard mode is not valid. I don't mean to penalize you, I mean to penalize the game for making it difficult on me.
6) Don't lie. Better your times to impress yourself, not us. This community cares much more about strategy discussion and videos than times.
7) At least for your first post, please format it similarly to the examples in the spoiler tags, so that I don't miss times.
8) I take forever to update. Last v2 update took over 3 years. Mah bad.
9) Because I suddenly decided so, you must complete at least 5 games to be on the board (per category).

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1. Jagger"OM"G - 16:33
2. Prime Hunter - 19:22
3. Secret Key - 26:21
4.?darkphazon89 - 26:26
5. Kirby"HePlaysKirbyGames?"mastah - 44:24
6. Sneaky Paradox - 45:41
7. mightypoo007 - 56:15
8. MASTER-88 - 59:42
9. BlackDays - 67:13
10. UchihaSasuke - 68:14
11. rekameohs - 71:04
12. King Broly - 76:12
13. tomato"HeActuallyDoesKindofLookAThingLikeJesus"bob - 87:23
14. Bio"TDK"Spark - 108:06
15. Gu3st - 109:09
16. Aegis Runestone - 110:13
17. The Link - 112:07
18.?Razorflame - 117:34
19. Tyjet66 - 122:46
20. death48 - 129:01
21. Initial U - 138:18
22. SuperKeenenBell - 146:28
23. RaphaelRobo - somethingreallyhigh:03

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1. JaggerG
    Metroid         00:21
    Zero Mission    00:29
    Prime 1         01:48
    Hunters         01:56
    Echoes          01:37
    Corruption      03:49
    Return of Samus 01:07
    Super           00:58
    Other M         03:41
    Fusion          00:47
                         
                    16:33
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2. Prime Hunter
    Metroid         00:52
    Zero Mission    00:33
    Prime 1         01:49
    Hunters         02:37
    Echoes          03:12
    Corruption      02:59
    Return of Samus 01:15
    Super           00:44
    Other M         04:17
    Fusion          01:04
                         
                    19:22
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3. Secretkey
    Metroid         04:59
    Zero Mission    00:31
    Prime 1         01:23
    Hunters         04:09
    Echoes          04:08
    Corruption      03:43
    Return of Samus 01:28
    Super           01:10
    Other M         04:03
    Fusion          00:47
                         
                    26:21
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4.?darkphazon89
    Metroid         00:57
    Zero Mission    01:37
    Prime 1         02:08
    Hunters         03:02
    Echoes          03:53
    Corruption      04:47
    Return of Samus 02:12
    Super           01:01
    Other M         05:05
    Fusion          01:44
                         
                    26:26
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5. kirbymastah
    Metroid         07:23
    Zero Mission    00:29
    Prime 1         01:26
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          01:16
    Corruption      02:32
    Return of Samus 01:08
    Super           01:26
    Other M         07:58
    Fusion          00:46
                         
                    44:24
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6. Sneaky Paradox
    Metroid         00:30
    Zero Mission    00:38
    Prime 1         01:17
    Hunters         02:22
    Echoes          02:12
    Corruption      12:23
    Return of Samus 04:22
    Super           00:33
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          00:53
                         
                    45:41
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7. mightypoo007
    Metroid         01:00
    Zero Mission    00:32
    Prime 1         03:16
    Hunters         01:37
    Echoes          05:48
    Corruption      20:00
    Return of Samus 01:17
    Super           01:48
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          00:57
                         
                    56:15
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8. MASTER-88
    Metroid         15:00
    Zero Mission    00:29
    Prime 1         01:19
    Hunters         15:00
    Echoes          01:58
    Corruption      02:53
    Return of Samus 01:28
    Super           00:43
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          00:52
                         
                    59:42
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9. BlackDays
    Metroid         04:20
    Zero Mission    00:57
    Prime 1         03:01
    Hunters         13:30
    Echoes          09:51
    Corruption      10:09
    Return of Samus 03:18
    Super           00:58
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          01:09
                         
                    67:13
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10.UchihaSasuke
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    00:40
    Prime 1         01:47
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          01:38
    Corruption      03:11
    Return of Samus 04:59
    Super           05:59
    Other M         08:59
    Fusion          01:01
                         
                    68:14
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11.rekameohs
    Metroid         01:30
    Zero Mission    00:43
    Prime 1         01:16
    Hunters         02:20
    Echoes          02:36
    Corruption      20:00
    Return of Samus 20:00
    Super           01:03
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          01:36
                         
                    71:04
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12.KingBroly
    Metroid         01:00
    Zero Mission    01:50
    Prime 1         08:59
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          09:59
    Corruption      06:59
    Return of Samus 20:00
    Super           00:50
    Other M         04:10
    Fusion          02:25
                         
                    76:12
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13.tomatobob
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    00:44
    Prime 1         02:36
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          08:40
    Corruption      08:12
    Return of Samus 03:11
    Super           02:39
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          01:21
                         
                    87:23
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14.BioSpark
    Metroid         04:15
    Zero Mission    00:35
    Prime 1         02:15
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          15:00
    Corruption      20:00
    Return of Samus 20:00
    Super           05:15
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          00:46
                         
                   108:06
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15.Gu3st
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    00:31
    Prime 1         01:30
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          20:00
    Corruption      06:59
    Return of Samus 15:00
    Super           03:59
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          01:10
                         
                   109:09
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16.Aegis Runestone
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    15:00
    Prime 1         10:59
    Hunters         06:59
    Echoes          12:59
    Corruption      09:59
    Return of Samus 08:59
    Super           02:03
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          02:15
                         
                   110:13
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17.The Link
    Metroid         02:43
    Zero Mission    00:55
    Prime 1         07:11
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          15:00
    Corruption      15:00
    Return of Samus 15:00
    Super           15:00
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          01:18
                         
                   112:07
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18?Razorflame
    Metroid         01:03
    Zero Mission    03:18
    Prime 1         02:17
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          05:13
    Corruption      20:00
    Return of Samus 20:00
    Super           20:00
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          05:43
                         
                   117:34
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19.Tyjet66
    Metroid         02:16
    Zero Mission    00:49
    Prime 1         20:00
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          20:00
    Corruption      20:00
    Return of Samus 03:24
    Super           15:00
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          01:17
                         
                   122:46
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20.death48
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    03:23
    Prime 1         08:42
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          15:00
    Corruption      11:42
    Return of Samus 20:00
    Super           03:14
    Other M         07:00
    Fusion          20:00
                         
                   129:01
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21.Initial U
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    20:00
    Prime 1         09:07
    Hunters         01:23
    Echoes          20:00
    Corruption      10:59
    Return of Samus 20:00
    Super           01:49
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          15:00
                         
                   138:18
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22.SuperKeenenBell
    Metroid         15:00
    Zero Mission    01:28
    Prime 1         15:00
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          15:00
    Corruption      15:00
    Return of Samus 15:00
    Super           15:00
    Other M         20:00
    Fusion          15:00
                         
                   146:28


100%
1. kirbymastah - 52:38
2. Prime Hunter - 60:33
3. JaggerG - 101:17

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1. kirbymastah
    Metroid         07:23
    Zero Mission    00:52
    Prime 1         01:30
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          02:13
    Corruption      03:27
    Return of Samus 06:13
    Super           01:56
    Other M         07:58
    Fusion          01:06
                         
                    52:38
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2. Prime Hunter
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    01:44
    Prime 1         02:59
    Hunters         05:21
    Echoes          07:41
    Corruption      06:27
    Return of Samus 01:28
    Super           01:09
    Other M         10:35
    Fusion          03:09
                         
                    60:33
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3. JaggerG
    Metroid         20:00
    Zero Mission    01:04
    Prime 1         05:14
    Hunters         20:00
    Echoes          15:00
    Corruption      15:00
    Return of Samus 15:00
    Super           02:55
    Other M         05:55
    Fusion          01:09
                         
                   101:17
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Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Bonus feature: Teams
1) Use as many people as you like from 1 to 10, as long as they agree to join you.
2) Declare a player for each game (for example, marathon groups, use the primary player scheduled) and use only his/her best time.
2a) If you have no player for a game or you don't even have a vague estimate of their best time, I'm tallying it as 10 hours.
2b) If a time is higher than 15 hours, s/he probably doesn't care enough to participate in a leaderboard. They're disqualified.
3) Don't create a team just to have a better total time. This is more for existing communities.

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1. Combined Record Times - 11:32
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1. Combined Record Times
    Metroid         0:11 TheTycon
    Zero Mission    0:26 spidey-widey
    Prime 1         0:53 T3
    Hunters         1:10 Mr_Shasta
    Echoes          0:56 MilesSMB
    Corruption      2:09 Parax
    Return of Samus 0:53 Behemoth
    Super           0:28 Zoast
    Other M         3:41 JaggerG
    Fusion          0:45 JRP2234
                         
                   11:32

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Prime Hunter: 2013-05-01 12:20:45 pm
I'm confused. The examples you have for me and Sneaky Paradox don't add up with the totals you put on the leaderboard.
Edit: Nevermind, I see where that list came from now.

Also, I just realized my ROS time in the example is outdated. So to start things off for v3 here's what I have written down as my current TMT:

Code (Prime Hunter - 19:22):
Metroid         00:52
Zero Mission    00:33
Prime 1         01:49
Hunters         02:37
Echoes          03:12
Corruption      02:59
Return of Samus 01:15
Super           00:44
Other M         04:17
Fusion          01:04

100% runs on the other hand, well, that's where I fall apart...

Code (Prime Hunter - 60:33):
Metroid         20:00
Zero Mission    01:44
Prime 1         02:59
Hunters         05:21
Echoes          07:41
Corruption      06:27
Return of Samus 01:28
Super           01:09
Other M         10:35
Fusion          03:09

As you can see, I'm either really bad or really inexperienced at 100% runs for most of these. I've never done a true 100% run of the NES Metroid? Huh... that's news to me.
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Yeah, I just added 20 to all the times and called it a night. I still need to fix it.
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kirbymastah: 2013-05-02 03:26:23 am
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kirbymastah: 2013-05-02 03:26:13 am
100%

Metroid          N/A
Metroid 2        6:13
Super Metroid    1:56
Metroid Fusion  1:08
Metroid ZM      0:55
Metroid Prime    2:02
Metroid Prime 2  2:21
Metroid Prime 3  3:27
Other M          N/A

I do have a time for Other M, but I dont know what it is since I don't have the game with me. I'll check it. Metroid 1, I have yet to beat...
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JaggerG: 2013-05-03 12:13:49 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
I've updated any%. I'm proud of myself so far. I may actually go back and look into 100% times in the old thread. One thing though: especially for 100%, I'm considering disqualifying times that include less than half the games. It seems to be rather pointless to post times here if you haven't played very many games.

Should it be Must Complete At Least Half, or Must Complete More Than Half?
One shall stand, one shall ball.
At least half sounds fair, I think skipping M1, Hunters, Other M, Echoes, Corruption, and ROS is pretty fair. M1 hasn't aged well and is kind of a pain to play, same with RoS to an extent even though I love it. Echoes and Corruption can be kind of sloggy, but my bias might be leaking through too much there. And I don't know that I could every ask anyone to play Other M or Hunters, seems unfair.
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tomatobob: 2013-05-03 06:03:07 am
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Oh hey looked up my RoS time since I guess I didn't post in the last thread about it:

Return of Samus 3:11

Oh and another!

Metroid Prime 2:36
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I would be in last place... -_-'

Well time to spend time to rank this soab...
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Frankly, I found it rather impressive that you'd beaten 8 of 10 games and managed last place. If you think of it as a high score table, you're pretty much at the top.

And holy crap, tombob, that shoots you up 5 spots! Remembering times is pretty OP I guess. :^P
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Prime Hunter: 2013-05-03 11:02:37 am
Honestly, I'm pretty certain that the only reason I'm at the top of the any% list is because I've finished all 10 games with decent enough times. Some are closer to their records than others, but if you look at the individual game leaderboards that have popped up recently I'm usually closer to the bottom of those.

Personally, I think out of the games Tomatobob listed Echoes and Corruption would be the two people would most likely have played. Metroid and ROS are the oldest so for some people that might turn them away from the start, where as Other M and Hunters have gotten bad reputations around here for legitimate reasons. So yeah, at least half sounds fair to me as well.
One shall stand, one shall ball.
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And holy crap, tombob, that shoots you up 5 spots! Remembering times is pretty OP I guess. :^P

lol yeah, good thing I posted those times here! If I'd remembered my any% times from Echoes and Corruption I'd be looking like a boss! :v
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Checked SRL to get my Metroid 1 race time of 29, Checked my Other M file to see 7:39, did a refresher run through Corruption, getting 10:39, and looked up my Super Metroid time on SRL, getting my comment cut off and thus not having the time available. >_>

But then I did another run through Super and got 1:03. Pretty sure it's not really a PB, but eh, close enough. Gonna improve it again eventually. Still gotta run through RoS again because I'm pretty sure I beat that 1:58 by half an hour already.

I'm catching up, Prime Hunter! Only...30:52 left to shave off...
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Prime Hunter: 2013-05-09 11:28:37 pm
Prime Hunter: 2013-05-09 02:30:54 pm
I'm kind of curious to see what the absolute best TMT would look like if we took the records for each game and put them together. I think we did it in the old topic but we've had quite a few breakthroughs since then so who knows how outdated that total is.

Spent some time to look through SDA and around here in order to make an estimated list for any% times. Don't know if they're all accurate or not since I haven't been following the most recent runs, but it's impressive either way. The fact that I'm still off by seven hours frightens me though.

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    Metroid         00:18          Spider-Waffle          (SDA)
    Zero Mission    00:27          spidey-widey           (ZM Leaderboard)
    Prime 1         00:57          MilesSMB               (Prime 1 Leaderboard)
    Hunters         01:16          DSGamer3002            (SDA)
    Echoes          01:01          MilesSMB               (1:01 Any% Test Run Topic)
    Corruption      02:09          Paraxade               (SDA)
    Return of Samus 00:56          Behemoth               (ROS Best Times Topic)
    Super           00:30          Gari                   (Super Best Times Topic)
    Other M         03:58          Hitaka                 (Other M Best Times Topic)
    Fusion          00:46          BioSpark               (Fusion Leaderboard)
                         
                    12:18
It's cool to see a chart like that prime hunter. Do we distinguish between SS vs. segmented?
Well, all of my best times are segmented since I've only completed a handful of SS runs in general, but as far as I know the TMTs are made up of both SS and segmented. I don't remember making any distinctions in the past other than people sometimes mentioning what type of run they had completed when reporting their times.

I'd say it's up to Jagger to determine if we should have charts for both SS and segmented since he's keeping track of everything. If we did go through with it though, it would probably be easier to start new ones from scratch comprised solely of SS times rather than try to analyze what we currently have and see if any of the times are from SS runs. I'd imagine there are a few in there already but I'd hate to think of how much work would be involved to figure that out.
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Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
I put the record times in the Team post (second post). I used in-game time except for Other M because I didn't care, lol. Does Other M add cutscene time even if you skip them? That could cause discrepency.

But yeah, these totals seem pretty silly. I compared my times to yours. The only game I don't have a time for is Hunters, and yet I'm 30 hours behind you...but if you look closely, I've beaten 4 of your times by a pretty good chunk. I think one of these days I can go through them all in one day, but before I even attempt that, I'm gonna have to do some serious research on some games.
From what I remember seeing while I was going through the Other M topic we had decided that the cutscene times are merely added to whatever your actual run time is. As long as everyone ends their run in the same place the added time should be the same for everybody. But last I knew nobody had figured out just how much time all of the cutscenes add on which is why we never bothered with it in the first place.

It probably wouldn't be too hard to figure that out at this point since I'm almost positive there is at least one video on Youtube that shows off just Theater mode.

Yep, just found one almost immediately. The video is 02:12:32 but about a minute of that is menu screens at both ends of the video. Doesn't look like there are loading screens between the segments, but when I scanned through the video to check I noticed that it includes the moments when you lose control of Samus for in-game cutscenes as well, including a few seconds of gameplay before or after. So unless we wanted to manually time everything I think that's the closest we'd get.
So if we used my time of 04:17 as an example, about 1/2 of my time is gameplay and 1/2 of my time is Theater Mode.
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Theater mode also includes clips of boss fights and traversing sections of sectors, so it's less than 2 hours, I'm sure. But yeah, if it does add to game time, it's probably at least an hour. Hmm...
As much as I hate the story of other m, I must admit that the transitioning between each cutscene in theatre mode was pretty neat.
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Prime Hunter: 2013-05-10 11:30:05 am
Probably doesn't matter if you hit play all or watch individual segments, does it? Gameplay would still be shown.

I think this is why we got stuck in the first place, because we'd have to manually determine what to cut out and what to keep. It could be done, of course, but it would have to be a consistent.
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Prime Hunter: 2013-05-10 11:34:30 am
Prime Hunter: 2013-05-10 11:33:32 am
I mean the only other option I can think of would be to resort to doing what we do for the NES Metroid and only use real time measurements, which would be annoying and possibly lead to further issues since there's no built in option for skipping cutscenes. (As in it has to be done manually while you're playing.) I forsee a lot of problems with that since there's no way to be 100% certain that everyone skips the cutscenes at the same time.
On another note, we can have a team time for 100% as well? These are the best times of the games that I know of:

    Metroid        0:45 DragonDarch
    Zero Mission    0:52 spidey-widey
    Prime 1        1:18 MilesSMB
    Echoes          1:56 MilesSMB
    Corruption      3:27 KirbyMastah
    Fusion          1:06 BioSpark

I don't know super metroid's in-game 100% time, but it's probably in the low 0:50s.
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
It's :50 for Super, IIRC.

And yeah, the point of looking into the timing of the cutscenes is to get an estimate on the time to compare for players that have final times and aren't going to try for better. That special exception I'm granting to punish the game instead of the players. :^P

I actually forget all the specific things I timed, but it's over 30 cutscenes I included, lol. I think I included only skippable ones. I'm not actually sure, I'm gonna have to check the record for reference. This is just to get an estimate on the actual in-game time of the record. It looks like nearly 2 hours, but that means TheOnlyOne's record is more like 4:27, and that doesn't really make sense as a real "record." I just got his time from http://tssbreak.com/links and it doesn't have a video.