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2012-07-01 06:26:57 pm

red chamber dream

it's also not that i don't enjoy a good drag performance, i just find it bizarre when people try to inject more meaning to it than just a performance

tomatobob

2012-07-01 06:29:38 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

I'm sure some people actually do make a point with their performances, probably more common that you'd think.

It's perfectly reasonable to not care about what they're getting at and enjoying the show, though.

arkarian

2012-07-01 06:32:19 pm

red chamber dream

yeah i didn't say they don't lol, that's the goal of any good performance i would say

arkarian

2012-07-01 06:32:40 pm

red chamber dream

has nothing to do with calling someone who's clearly male a "she" just because he's a drag queen

that just doesn't make any sense

arkarian

2012-07-01 06:33:02 pm

red chamber dream

just makes you sound like a fervent fanboy

tomatobob

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tomatobob: 2012-07-01 06:37:26 pm

2012-07-01 06:36:44 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

But what if the he/she distinction being meaningless is the point they're trying to make! :o

arkarian

2012-07-01 06:38:01 pm

red chamber dream

it's not meaningless, he's clearly male, so when talking about him it makes more sense to refer to him as such so people understand who you're talking about

arkarian

2012-07-01 06:38:24 pm

red chamber dream

if he were a transsexual it'd be a different story

tomatobob

2012-07-01 06:41:54 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Just get gender neutral up in this bitch. "They" will be the only acceptable pronoun! :v

arkarian

2012-07-01 06:47:34 pm

red chamber dream

ugh why does every jrpg feel the need to include a boss rush

tomatobob

2012-07-01 07:03:36 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Well bosses are so fun individually, think of how much better they could be in rapid succession!

tomatobob

2012-07-01 07:04:29 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

It's on par with the refight all the bosses thing a lot of games love in terms of shit I can't stand.

arkarian

2012-07-01 07:10:25 pm

red chamber dream

yeah lol i never understood the appeal of boss rush modes either, it's like watching the most monotonous parts of a movie all mashed up

Poision Envy

2012-07-01 07:20:16 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from arkarian:

right ... but the fact remains that abnormal sexual behavior doesn't occur without trauma

I don't think I'm traumatized :v

arkarian

2012-07-01 07:22:03 pm

red chamber dream

have you done any abnormal sexual behavior?

arkarian

2012-07-01 07:22:56 pm

red chamber dream

somehow i don't think an interest in furry porn really counts >_>

Poision Envy

2012-07-01 07:34:07 pm

Club 27 Goals

blood fetish, but not very extreme. Just things like cuts, bloody noses, etc, not full on gore. But I Guess if furry/gay/trap stuff doesn't count then no.

tomatobob

2012-07-01 07:52:46 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Gay's not weird, furry certainly is!

arkarian

2012-07-01 08:56:44 pm

red chamber dream

poision didn't you say you moved around a lot as a kid? and aren't your parents divorced? stuff like that is what i'm talking about. i'd say there's a hefty percent of the population that has shit like that in their past, mild as it may seem, that they never try to resolve through therapy and whatnot because americans are fucking scared to death to talk about anything.

Opium

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Opium: 2012-07-02 12:21:19 am

2012-07-02 12:20:10 am

If anyone thinks for one second that the only way someone could 'become' a drag queen is due to some kind of mental flaw or trauma, I encourage you to read RuPaul Charles' book. That man is one of the most intelligent, wise, cunning, clever, strong,...and about 1000 other flattering adjectives. He could blow any of you bitches out of the water in any contest of wits or endurance you can think of, I'd put money on it.

He/She's one seriously bad-ass mother fucker.

BioSpark

2012-07-02 12:23:17 am

opium sounds like that chick on loveline

arkarian

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arkarian: 2012-07-02 12:27:54 am

2012-07-02 12:24:07 am

red chamber dream

http://www.rupaul.com/bio/index.shtml

> bathed by much older sister (and i'd wager more than that went on)
> ugly divorce as a young child
> mother was a drug addict
> bullied by other kids as a child

yep, looks like my prediction was right

arkarian

2012-07-02 12:25:28 am

red chamber dream

i'm not saying there's something wrong with rupaul (or any other drag queen), just stating the *fact* that people who act out much further than normal almost always had some sort of childhood trauma

there's nothing specifically "wrong" with that, it's just something to think about, and something that therapy generally helps a lot with

Poision Envy

2012-07-02 01:49:45 am

Club 27 Goals

Quote from Opium:

If anyone thinks for one second that the only way someone could 'become' a drag queen is due to some kind of mental flaw or trauma, I encourage you to read RuPaul Charles' book. That man is one of the most intelligent, wise, cunning, clever, strong,...and about 1000 other flattering adjectives. He could blow any of you bitches out of the water in any contest of wits or endurance you can think of, I'd put money on it.

He/She's one seriously bad-ass mother fucker.

so he's kinda like Marilyn Manson?

Opium

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Opium: 2012-07-02 08:18:04 am

Opium: 2012-07-02 08:11:53 am

Opium: 2012-07-02 08:11:31 am

2012-07-02 08:10:28 am

Quote from arkarian:

http://www.rupaul.com/bio/index.shtml

> bathed by much older sister (and i'd wager more than that went on)
> ugly divorce as a young child
> mother was a drug addict
> bullied by other kids as a child

yep, looks like my prediction was right

Does that child hood really sound that abnormal to you? You mention 'bathed by older sister' as if that were something worth mentioning. I'd wager that more people were bathed by siblings than not since western civ began, so I think it's silly to even mention it. Same with the addicted mother. And aren't most divorces ugly? and don't most children come from broken homes these days?

With your logic, there would be 10,000X more drag queens in the world than there are.

Quote from arkarian:

i'm not saying there's something wrong with rupaul (or any other drag queen), just stating the *fact* that people who act out much further than normal almost always had some sort of childhood trauma

there's nothing specifically "wrong" with that, it's just something to think about, and something that therapy generally helps a lot with

What does 'act out' exactly mean?

I definitely think trauma leads to more anti-social behavior, but getting involved with this art-form is not that. I think people with very influential parents can end up living a life that is much more repressed and in line with their parents wishes, and I wonder if you are getting those two ideas confused.

[quote="arkarian"]http://www.rupaul.com/bio/index.shtml

> bathed by much older sister (and i'd wager more than that went on)
> ugly divorce as a young child
> mother was a drug addict
> bullied by other kids as a child

yep, looks like my prediction was right[/quote]

Does that child hood really sound that abnormal to you?  You mention 'bathed by older sister' as if that were something worth mentioning. I'd wager that more people were bathed by siblings than not since western civ began, so I think it's silly to even mention it. Same with the addicted mother. And aren't most divorces ugly? and don't most children come from broken homes these days?

With your logic, there would be 10,000X more drag queens in the world than there are.

[quote="arkarian"]i'm not saying there's something wrong with rupaul (or any other drag queen), just stating the *fact* that people who act out much further than normal almost always had some sort of childhood trauma

there's nothing specifically "wrong" with that, it's just something to think about, and something that therapy generally helps a lot with[/quote]

What does 'act out' exactly mean?

I definitely think trauma leads to more anti-social behavior, but getting involved with this art-form is not that.  I think people with very influential parents can end up living a life that is much more repressed and in line with their parents wishes, and I wonder if you are getting those two ideas confused.