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2009-07-14 04:05:49 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I wasn't directly criticising your creation, but merely pointing out that it appears to be very fast, which would make any combat-based game very tough.

J-SNAKE

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2009-07-14 04:16:54 pm

thats me

Quote from Quietus:

pointing out that it appears to be very fast, which would make any combat-based game very tough.

I didnt show combat, I showed elements which can be used in combat. You cannot keep this speed forever. Its all about economic acting, tactics, mindgames and dexterity.

tomatobob

2009-07-14 04:20:25 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

shut up shut up shut up shut up

Quietus

2009-07-14 04:49:00 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I give in. Even when you ask legit questions, you still get attacked. aiwebs_027

J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE: 2009-07-14 05:34:19 pm

2009-07-14 05:11:19 pm

thats me

Quote from Quietus:

I give in. Even when you ask legit questions, you still get attacked. aiwebs_027

Feel free to ask what you want as long as mods dont cut it. I like discussing my thing and I also like criticism.
Its surely better trying to understand me than tomatobob when I am talking about my thing. So I dont really see a reason for your reaction if you want to be serious.

It is surely better to read my posts not with the mindset "J-SNAKE is pissed off and strikes back" but just seeing it what it is: A serious and educated answer with content, hopefully.

Opium

2009-07-14 05:48:25 pm

Quote from J-SNAKE:

I like discussing my thing...

TRUE

Quote from J-SNAKE:

...and I also like criticism.

FALSE

Quote from J-SNAKE:

Its surely better trying to understand me than tomatobob when I am talking about my thing.

FALSE

Quote from J-SNAKE:

It is surely better to read my posts not with the mindset "J-SNAKE is pissed off and strikes back" but just seeing it what it is: A serious and educated answer with content, hopefully.

FALSE FALSE FALSE

J-SNAKE

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2009-07-14 06:20:15 pm

thats me

Quote from Opium:

Quote from J-SNAKE:

...and I also like criticism.

FALSE

What about you, lady?

Opium

2009-07-14 06:29:22 pm

Quote from J-SNAKE:

Quote from Opium:

Quote from J-SNAKE:

...and I also like criticism.

FALSE

What about you, lady?

Adam?

Anyways, I don't think anyone likes criticism. Some welcome it and ask for it for the purpose of learning, but saying that you like it is a stretch ESPECIALLY upon reading your reactions to it. You're quick to tell people that they 'know nothing'. You present your opinions as solid facts, so what's there to critique anyways? Perhaps when you say that you like criticism, you are actually saying that you enjoy GIVING criticism ??

J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE: 2009-07-14 07:06:55 pm

2009-07-14 06:43:08 pm

thats me

Quote from Opium:

Quote from J-SNAKE:

Its surely better trying to understand me than tomatobob when I am talking about my thing.

FALSE

Ok, feel free to explain what my game is all about if you want to back up yourself and I proove you FALSE by facts. I think there is plenty of content in this sentence.

Quote from Opium:

Anyways, I don't think anyone likes criticism.

Do you know what it is, criticism? I dont think it is a trivial word. Serious criticism is only given when the poster knows about the problems or flaws of the subject, so then only with criticism you will achieve improvements but criticism is not given out of the blue without knowing the subject, it is just nonsense. Either you go in for a talk which makes sense or you quit it since otherwise only non-sense is achieved. Thats what I suggested, on a youtube-topic you will achieve non-sense since I know my game is too complex to dive in serious criticism quickly. But as far as it is not cut by mods there are of course some possibilities to discuss some things a little, thats right.

Just to understand me here: "You know nothing about my game" is a neutral sentence with a lot of content. Of, course it is sad when someone is taking it with the wrong mindset.
But the fact remains: If you know nothing about a game you cannot say anything about what would be good or bad. It needs time, dedication and depth to talk about it. So you wont get anything valuable advertising such things on a youtube-topic with some few quick posts. You cannot say that it is too fast to strike some hits when you know nothing about the weapon- and suit-system. Thats the only thing I wanted to make clear with pretty much content in a short sentence. So thats a constructive post with content, otherwise what shall I tell you? Some kind of crap which just appears to be nice but having no content? I think it can work both ways. Everyone shall be nice to each other without setting rumors just because a post appears hard-worded.

[quote="Opium"]
[quote="J-SNAKE"]
Its surely better trying to understand me than tomatobob when I am talking about my thing. 
[/quote]
FALSE
[/quote]
Ok, feel free to explain what my game is all about if you want to back up yourself and I proove you FALSE by facts. I think there is plenty of content in this sentence.

[quote="Opium"]
Anyways, I don't think anyone [i]likes[/i] criticism. 
[/quote]
Do you know what it is, criticism? I dont think it is a trivial word. Serious criticism is only given when the poster knows about the problems or flaws of the subject, so then only with criticism you will achieve improvements but criticism is not given out of the blue without knowing the subject, it is just nonsense. Either you go in for a talk which makes sense or you quit it since otherwise only non-sense is achieved. Thats what I suggested, on a youtube-topic you will achieve non-sense since I know my game is too complex to dive in serious criticism quickly. But as far as it is not cut by mods there are of course some possibilities to discuss some things a little, thats right.

Just to understand me here: "You know nothing about my game" is a neutral sentence with a lot of content. Of, course it is sad when someone is taking it with the wrong mindset. 
But the fact remains: If you know nothing about a game you cannot say anything about what would be good or bad. It needs time, dedication and depth to talk about it. So you wont get anything valuable advertising such things on a youtube-topic with some few quick posts. You cannot say that it is too fast to strike some hits when you know nothing about the weapon- and suit-system. Thats the only thing I wanted to make clear with pretty much content in a short sentence. So thats a constructive post with content, otherwise what shall I tell you? Some kind of crap which just appears to be nice but having no content? I think it can work both ways. Everyone shall be nice to each other without setting rumors just because a post appears hard-worded.

Gaius_4

2009-07-15 03:43:34 am

Quote from SuperKeenenBell:

this kid really has serious anger issues
(vid)

I'm betting... Looking from those cars in the drive-way; that that kid is simply spoiled and can't take much in the area of trivial matters.

I'll have to watch this at home where I can hear what's going on.

Crys

2009-07-16 10:13:17 am

Green-Kirby, ROAR!

J-Snake, you can't take criticism.
You're always trying to prove the people who give you criticism wrong rather then taking it in.

Being a designer myself I also know that you get criticism that is not worth anything, comments that simply states it's bad or good does not help at all. And it seams to me that you only post here to get praise as you keep fighting back people who give you criticism rather then listening to what they say. Sure you can ignore them if you don't like what they say but arguing against them only proves that you don't want criticism or take it in at all.

Sure, Quietus have not played your game, but so what? You posted a video and you obviously wanted comments. Quietus might not know shit about how it is to play the game but he/she had to judge from the limited material that you showed. If you know that he is wrong by facts then just ignore it. But from reading your comments back it sounds like you expect him to have played it even though you just showed a video. So in other words, you're unfair and rude on the same time.

Short version:
Send us a copy of the game or shut the fuck up about expect us to have played it.

J-Snake, you can't take criticism.
You're always trying to prove the people who give you criticism wrong rather then taking it in.

Being a designer myself I also know that you get criticism that is not worth anything, comments that simply states it's bad or good does not help at all. And it seams to me that you only post here to get praise as you keep fighting back people who give you criticism rather then listening to what they say. Sure you can ignore them if you don't like what they say but arguing against them only proves that you don't want criticism or take it in at all.

Sure, Quietus have not played your game, but so what? You posted a video and you obviously wanted comments. Quietus might not know shit about how it is to play the game but he/she had to judge from the limited material that you showed. If you know that he is wrong by facts then just ignore it. But from reading your comments back it sounds like you expect him to have played it even though you just showed a video. So in other words, you're unfair and rude on the same time.

Short version:
Send us a copy of the game or shut the fuck up about expect us to have played it.

J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE

Edit history:

J-SNAKE: 2009-07-16 12:34:12 pm

2009-07-16 11:45:04 am

thats me

Quote from Crys:

Sure, Quietus have not played your game, but so what? You posted a video and you obviously wanted comments. Quietus might not know shit about how it is to play the game but he/she had to judge from the limited material that you showed. If you know that he is wrong by facts then just ignore it.
Send us a copy of the game or shut the fuck up about expect us to have played it.

Yes, thats why I only corrected him since I didnt expect you to have played it, so what?

Quote from Crys:

Sure, Quietus have not played your game, but so what?

So I am not sure what you are heading on or what is so bad about me. I am actually bothered to find the optimal settings for all sort of things. This is a video demonstrating the detail and optimisation of some revolutionary fully organic real-time high-end actions while keeping supersonic-speed, it is not how the game is constantly played. And I gave a clear answer that you cannot keep this speed forever(So do you take it as a sort of attack or is it rather a closer step to come to the point and discuss the real thing?, seriously why do you take it as a sort of attack, it is a neutral informative answer).

It requires suit-energy to keep this speed. A non-economic acting is fatal. It gives you kind of being hulk for a short time but once it is over you will be like a weak sheep and take appropriate time to recover for more advanced acting. So all is about balancing pros and cons. Pro of being "Hulk" is that the enemy will have a hard time hitting you and better shall search for cover, the con is when your time is over your defense/offense-acting will be weak due to limited movement-potential.

I understand the concerns that the game appears very fast and versatile in general to be played with custom-paced linear shots. My solution is to innovate the weapon-programs
anyway and give them a more non-linear touch. I only showed some of the missile so far. It is like many weapons in one. It can be guided and compensate the pros of fast versatile acting of your opponent, but to make it guided charged weapon-arm energy is required, then it is also possible to control the missile anytime manually to personally correct the course, speed and to confuse the enemy. It is also possible to shoot missile linear like in SM. So you can use the charged energy to maximize explosion-damage instead for guidence-propulsion. The con is it is hard to hit your enemy but when you are dominating your opponent in advanced movement you can play "catch me if you can" and then finish the thing even with one shot, according to the charged-energy-amount (suit-and weapon-arm-energy are separated). Such possible chase-scenarios using linear shots were demonstrated.

For example 0:21 or 0:25 shooting backwards(moving from aiming separated here). And a very extreme example for that is 0:19, here I caught the enemy with shinespark, since the controls are designed to allow most simultaneous control I cancel shinespark, simultaneously aim and shoot down while applying double jump and go direct into ball for possible next requirements. This combination happens in real-time in just a tiny peek of a second so it can hardly be noticed. That allows having fun for everyone but gives masters the possibilty to proove their skills, be creative and go into something I call depth.
Feel free to watch it with this position of view. Did my infromation help?

[quote="Crys"]
Sure, Quietus have not played your game, but so what? You posted a video and you obviously wanted comments. Quietus might not know shit about how it is to play the game but he/she had to judge from the limited material that you showed. If you know that he is wrong by facts then just ignore it.
Send us a copy of the game or shut the fuck up about expect us to have played it.
[/quote]
Yes, thats why I only corrected him since I didnt expect you to have played it, so what?

[quote="Crys"]
Sure, Quietus have not played your game, but so what?  
[/quote]
So I am not sure what you are heading on or what is so bad about me. I am actually bothered to find the optimal settings for all sort of things. This is a video demonstrating the detail and optimisation of some revolutionary fully organic real-time high-end actions while keeping supersonic-speed, it is not how the game is constantly played. And I gave a clear answer that you cannot keep this speed forever(So do you take it as a sort of attack or is it rather a closer step to come to the point and discuss the real thing?, seriously why do you take it as a sort of attack, it is a neutral informative answer).

It requires suit-energy to keep this speed. A non-economic acting is fatal. It gives you kind of being hulk for a short time but once it is over you will be like a weak sheep and take appropriate time to recover for more advanced acting. So all is about balancing pros and cons. Pro of being "Hulk" is that the enemy will have a hard time hitting you and better shall search for cover, the con is when your time is over your defense/offense-acting will be weak due to limited movement-potential.

I understand the concerns that the game appears very fast and versatile in general to be played with custom-paced linear shots. My solution is to innovate the weapon-programs
anyway and give them a more non-linear touch. I only showed some of the missile so far. It is like many weapons in one. It can be guided and compensate the pros of fast versatile acting of your opponent, but to make it guided charged weapon-arm energy is required, then it is also possible to control the missile anytime manually to personally correct the course, speed and to confuse the enemy. It is also possible to shoot missile linear like in SM.  So you can use the charged energy to maximize explosion-damage instead for guidence-propulsion. The con is it is hard to hit your enemy but when you are dominating your opponent in advanced movement you can play "catch me if you can" and then finish the thing even with one shot, according to the charged-energy-amount (suit-and weapon-arm-energy are separated). Such possible chase-scenarios using linear shots were demonstrated.

For example 0:21 or 0:25 shooting backwards(moving from aiming separated here). And a very extreme example for that is 0:19, here I caught the enemy with shinespark, since the controls are designed to allow most simultaneous control I cancel shinespark, simultaneously aim and shoot down while applying double jump and go direct into ball for possible next requirements. This combination happens in real-time in just a tiny peek of a second so it can hardly be noticed. That allows having fun for everyone but gives masters the possibilty to proove their skills, be creative and go into something I call depth. 
Feel free to watch it with this position of view. Did my infromation help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAVEgXg8ssc

Opium

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Opium: 2009-07-16 12:42:53 pm

2009-07-16 12:38:05 pm

It's not about your game or your very in-depth analysis of things related to SM controls, it's your rudeness when discussing it with others.

It's also rude how nearly every thread you post in inevitably ends up being diverted towards your projects no matter what the thread was intended to be about. This thread is a perfect example. Your crap pops up EVERYWHERE! I believe this is intentional because if you start a thread about just your games/ideas then few people post in it and it dies. It's not from lack of interest, it's from lack of manners from you. So you start bringing it up wherever you see activity hoping to get some feedback but then you just shoot it down. This has been going on for like a year now.

J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE: 2009-07-16 01:27:09 pm

2009-07-16 01:04:24 pm

thats me

Quote from Opium:

It's not about your game or your very in-depth analysis of things related to SM controls, it's your rudeness when discussing it with others.

Are you sure it is not because of very in-depth analysis? You probably never discussed things in depth yourself to have a comparison how to approach them, I probably have to clarify that it is no offense or rudeness towards you, shall also be taken constructive.

Quote from Opium:

It's also rude how nearly every thread you post in inevitably ends up being diverted towards your projects no matter what the thread was intended to be about. This thread is a perfect example. Your crap pops up EVERYWHERE!

Sorry to contradict you but you are ignoring a lot. Thats a good example to understand me here: If you read my first post I actually clearly replied that this video is intended to be enjoyed and that it is the wrong place to discuss it here. If it would be taken this way I would be fnished. In fact there are other threads where I dont constantly bring something up but quickly leave it when the thing is cleared. But discussion depends on more people than just me. If someone wants to know why it is difficult to discuss some issues in my game or misunderstands something then I have to clarify, if I have the opportunity to do so.

[quote="Opium"]
It's not about your game or your very in-depth analysis of things related to SM controls, it's your rudeness when discussing it with others.  
[/quote]
Are you sure it is not because of very in-depth analysis? You probably never discussed things in depth yourself to have a comparison how to approach them, I probably have to clarify that it is no offense or rudeness towards you, shall also be taken constructive.

[quote="Opium"]
It's also rude how nearly every thread you post in inevitably ends up being diverted towards your projects no matter what the thread was intended to be about.  This thread is a perfect example.  Your crap pops up EVERYWHERE! 
[/quote]
Sorry to contradict you but you are ignoring a lot. Thats a good example to understand me here: If you read my first post I actually clearly replied that this video is intended to be enjoyed and that it is the wrong place to discuss it here. If it would be taken this way I would be fnished. In fact there are other threads where I dont constantly bring something up but quickly leave it when the thing is cleared. But discussion depends on more people than just me. If someone wants to know why it is difficult to discuss some issues in my game or misunderstands something then I have to clarify, if I have the opportunity to do so.

Bloodsonic

2009-07-16 03:44:37 pm

His crap has to pop up everywhere, because if me made a thread about his hack it'd get locked because his crap is all just ideas. ideas threads are not allowed.
<_< >_>* Bloodsonic disappears

Crys

2009-07-16 03:51:30 pm

Green-Kirby, ROAR!

* Crys golf claps

I admit I'm shocked at how good you are at ignoring every thing everyone say and still insult us.
Man you just went up one troll level, congratulation! How do you want to spend your points?

+Ignorance,
+Rudeness
or the good old classic, +spaming.

Look, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is getting sick of you bringing in your fangame and shit into every topic. I can honestly only think of two reasons for this.
1. You're just trying troll people for shit and giggles, or
2. You're to stupid to see that we are fucking tired of dealing with your shit in every topic that have slightly activity.
Good thing my topic is always dead so I don't have to deal with it there.

Quote from J-SNAKE:

Quote from Opium:

It's also rude how nearly every thread you post in inevitably ends up being diverted towards your projects no matter what the thread was intended to be about. This thread is a perfect example. Your crap pops up EVERYWHERE!

Sorry to contradict you but you are ignoring a lot.

I find this part really funny considering you ignore every thing we say and take every thing we say out of context all the time.

God damn it, you're good at this you almost got another level up in trolling just on that part! Fuck yeah!

Considering you ignore every thing we say and take it out of context, as I'm sure you will do with your next reply, maybe I, or should I say we (considering Opium is starting to get pissed at you,) should take every thing you say out of context. And maybe slap in some non related arguments to make the post longer? Maybe I should sink to your level and start comparing your fan game to my hack and shamelessly advertise it every where too, even though we have a fangame/hacks forum?

Go on, take this post out of context! Will love to see how many stupid arguments you will make or how many times you side track and talk about your fangame. Maybe I should have it in my sig how many times you try to be an troll in every topic? Wonder if I'm allowed have enough characters for that.

Maybe, just MAYBE you will say some thing smart in your next post and stop bring up your fangame in it. But we already know you won't. You always think you're smarter then every one as you ignore what we say. But I hate (oh wait, I don't) to break it to you, but that's being stupid and ignorant.

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Now to be on topic, I found this video of some one taking down a DSl.

I was thinking of doing a paint job on my DSl. Should I disassemble it first or just use some thing to cover up vital parts that should not get paint on?

[me=Crys]golf claps[/me]

I admit I'm shocked at how good you are at ignoring every thing everyone say and still insult us.
Man you just went up one troll level, congratulation! How do you want to spend your points?

+Ignorance,
+Rudeness
or the good old classic, +spaming.

Look, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is getting sick of you bringing in your fangame and shit into every topic. I can honestly only think of two reasons for this.
1. You're just trying troll people for shit and giggles, or
2. You're to stupid to see that we are fucking tired of dealing with your shit in every topic that have slightly activity.
Good thing my topic is always dead so I don't have to deal with it there.

[quote="J-SNAKE"]
[quote="Opium"]
It's also rude how nearly every thread you post in inevitably ends up being diverted towards your projects no matter what the thread was intended to be about.  This thread is a perfect example.  Your crap pops up EVERYWHERE! 
[/quote]
Sorry to contradict you but you are ignoring a lot.
[/quote]
I find this part really funny considering you ignore every thing we say and take every thing we say out of context all the time.

God damn it, you're good at this you almost got another level up in trolling just on that part! Fuck yeah!

Considering you ignore every thing we say and take it out of context, as I'm sure you will do with your next reply, maybe I, or should I say we (considering Opium is starting to get pissed at you,) should take every thing you say out of context. And maybe slap in some non related arguments to make the post longer? Maybe I should sink to your level and start comparing your fan game to my hack and shamelessly advertise it every where too, even though we have a fangame/hacks forum?

Go on, take this post out of context! Will love to see how many stupid arguments you will make or how many times you side track and talk about your fangame. Maybe I should have it in my sig how many times you try to be an troll in every topic? Wonder if I'm allowed have enough characters for that.

Maybe, just MAYBE you will say some thing smart in your next post and stop bring up your fangame in it. But we already know you won't. You always think you're smarter then every one as you ignore what we say. But I hate (oh wait, I don't) to break it to you, but that's being stupid and ignorant.

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Now to be on topic, I found this video of some one taking down a DSl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzTgfo2PsM

I was thinking of doing a paint job on my DSl. Should I disassemble it first or just use some thing to cover up vital parts that should not get paint on?

J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE

Edit history:

J-SNAKE: 2009-07-16 04:43:19 pm

2009-07-16 04:07:12 pm

thats me

Quote from Bloodsonic:

because his crap is all just ideas. ideas threads are not allowed.
<_< >_>* Bloodsonic disappears

Content is often presented in a video. Most of hackers are doing it so in the fangame-thread. My video is no exeption. If you actually think I presented nothing then try to achieve same movement/action-results, then you will see what content can all be about (it is no hack btw., I am using DirectX and C++, as hacker you should know you want rather die than achieve such movement-results if you are not ignoring a lot, it means implementing the whole thing new and even far more than this). Am I ignorant for providing related facts now?

Quote from Crys:

I admit I'm shocked at how good you are at ignoring every thing everyone say and still insult us.

Can you please stay on point and tell me concretely what I did ignore on this youtube topic and you didnt?
I think I shared enough necessary information on my video or do you want to discuss more?

tomatobob

2009-07-16 05:40:11 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from J-SNAKE:

Most of hackers are doing it so in the fangame-thread.

Quote from J-SNAKE:

in the fangame-thread.

Quote from J-SNAKE:

fangame-thread.

Just sayin'.

J-SNAKE

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2009-07-16 06:20:24 pm

thats me

Yes, it is supposed to be enjoyed and not discussed, see how kind I am.

Poision Envy

2009-07-16 10:22:19 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from Crys:

I was thinking of doing a paint job on my DSl. Should I disassemble it first or just use some thing to cover up vital parts that should not get paint on?

disassemble it first. I did something similar to my SP, and putting things like tape over the screen and buttons is just a pain in the ass to get perfect.

Also I assume you know a good amount of paint plastic things? When I painted my SP I just used spray paint, which scrapes off really easily making it look like crap.

tomatobob

2009-07-16 10:26:27 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Bloodsonic:

His crap has to pop up everywhere, because if me made a thread about his hack it'd get locked because his crap is all just ideas. ideas threads are not allowed.
<_< >_>* Bloodsonic disappears

For the record he did have a thread, but it really just boiled down to people telling him that Super's controls were perfect in every way imaginable while he said no. It was lame and you people are bad trolls.

Quietus

2009-07-17 04:17:30 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Quote from Crys:

I was thinking of doing a paint job on my DSl. Should I disassemble it first or just use some thing to cover up vital parts that should not get paint on?

Quote from Poision Envy:

disassemble it first.

I agree.

You can never guarantee that it'll go perfectly, so you'd be better to play it safe, and take a little extra effort to disassemble it.

Crys

2009-07-17 05:43:32 am

Green-Kirby, ROAR!

All right, will do then.

I know I need color that stick on the right plastic surface. If I can't find any I will have to buy the expensive shit at games workshop, at least I know that works.

Opium

2009-07-17 04:50:04 pm

I am frightened

Quietus

2009-07-17 04:56:59 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

All that's missing is the immortal line: "Hi, I'm Chuckie. Wanna play?"