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Ok, i've done early space jump again except this time before flaahgra so i've been able to try out a few things.
I've tried ibbf, but i realised something that really sucks, you can only use one bomb in secret worlds. I guess the game thinks your in mid-air so it only allows one bomb. I haven't been able to make it to ice beam without bombs yet so someone with more experience with secret worlds will have to try it out.
You can still kill flaahgra the same way as in the gc version and flaahgra acts the same way.
I've also tried getting floaty jump but I haven't been able to make it into sunchamber's secret world. If I were to make it in, i'd be able to get floaty jump, climb sun tower, kill the ghosts and skip spider ball, charge beam and super missiles. It would probably be faster than wallcrawling from main plaza.
Early space jump is definately making travel much easier and a lot faster.
I've tried ibbf, but i realised something that really sucks, you can only use one bomb in secret worlds. I guess the game thinks your in mid-air so it only allows one bomb. I haven't been able to make it to ice beam without bombs yet so someone with more experience with secret worlds will have to try it out.
You can still kill flaahgra the same way as in the gc version and flaahgra acts the same way.
I've also tried getting floaty jump but I haven't been able to make it into sunchamber's secret world. If I were to make it in, i'd be able to get floaty jump, climb sun tower, kill the ghosts and skip spider ball, charge beam and super missiles. It would probably be faster than wallcrawling from main plaza.
Early space jump is definately making travel much easier and a lot faster.
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Ok, i've done early space jump again except this time before flaahgra so i've been able to try out a few things.
I've tried ibbf, but i realised something that really sucks, you can only use one bomb in secret worlds. I guess the game thinks your in mid-air so it only allows one bomb. I haven't been able to make it to ice beam without bombs yet so someone with more experience with secret worlds will have to try it out.
You can still kill flaahgra the same way as in the gc version and flaahgra acts the same way.
I've also tried getting floaty jump but I haven't been able to make it into sunchamber's secret world. If I were to make it in, i'd be able to get floaty jump, climb sun tower, kill the ghosts and skip spider ball, charge beam and super missiles. It would probably be faster than wallcrawling from main plaza.
Early space jump is definately making travel much easier and a lot faster.
I've tried ibbf, but i realised something that really sucks, you can only use one bomb in secret worlds. I guess the game thinks your in mid-air so it only allows one bomb. I haven't been able to make it to ice beam without bombs yet so someone with more experience with secret worlds will have to try it out.
You can still kill flaahgra the same way as in the gc version and flaahgra acts the same way.
I've also tried getting floaty jump but I haven't been able to make it into sunchamber's secret world. If I were to make it in, i'd be able to get floaty jump, climb sun tower, kill the ghosts and skip spider ball, charge beam and super missiles. It would probably be faster than wallcrawling from main plaza.
Early space jump is definately making travel much easier and a lot faster.
IBBF should work. If you get stuck somewhere and can't jump or use bombs you can always move foreward very slowly in first person few. You should be able to move once you make those tiny falls. I think you know what I'm talking about.
As for floaty jump, I'm afraid it wont work because you loose floaty jump when you dump the room you got it from. At least thats how it worked on the GC in the PAL version. You can try to get floaty jump from gathering hall after beating flaahgra to see how it works int eh wii version.
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Wait, early SJ can now be done in wii version ? ? or with bombs.
It can be done in the wii version now by using bombs.
I'm probably gonna leave ibbf for someone else once the game comes out in a couple of days. Every time i've done ibbf, i've used bombs and it's hard for me to do it without them.
I managed to get into sunchamber's secret world but it was much harder than the gc version. I got floaty jump, got out of the secret world and then I lost it. I don't know what happened but once I got back into the room it was gone. I guess it's like the gc pal version. I went to gathering hall, got into the secret world and tried to get it again and it wouldn't work.
I guess it's not going to work so were gonna have to wallcarawl from main plaza.
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UchihaSasuke wrote: Don't you already have the Japanese version of the trilogy. I've been reading most of your posts for a while about the trilogy. So I must be confused about something. Why couldn't you try it in the version you have? And thanks for all the early testing and confirmations (discoveries) too.
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i'll try it when i get my copy of the trilogy most likely.
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so, if i read correctly, it can be done as soon as you get bombs and requires a perfect bomb jump, right?
Correct. It has to be done with the new bomb jump I came up with because it gives mores height. I still haven't even thought of a name for it yet though. I know a lot of people are going to claim it's impossible because it's really hard and they'll probably just give up and get space jump the intended way.
Just wondering if anyone has done early Furnace on the Spider Track yet in NTSC? I can get up and go into morph ball but its like there is a block there or something stopping me from getting low enough to get into the tunnel. Its kind of hard to explain but it seems like there is a small invisible platform ... I can roll around quite a bit on it without falling off so I'm pretty sure it isn't a bounding box for any visible object on the map =/
Also, not sure if it was mentioned yet but early lifegiver/wave buster are both still possible and fairly easy.
Also, not sure if it was mentioned yet but early lifegiver/wave buster are both still possible and fairly easy.
The platform is actually above the tunnel rather than in or around the track ... my morph ball is JUST barely too high to go in as far as I can tell and I can roll out towards the door about double the distance I'd expect (from the GCN version)
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Sorry for the horrid ascii ... its basically a side view * being the tunnel and spider track, o being my ball placement and - being this platform I'm talking about and the other invisible platforms you can encounter if you were lower down... also, while you're up here, you can bomb, roll around, leave the controller alone... and you wont fall off. I've jumped up there a ton of times and I always encounter the same thing. At first I thought maybe I was jumping up too high but any lower and I dont get on. Also I'm not sitting on the lip above the tunnel either... not sure if I'm explaining myself good or not..
Has anyone else got in there on the NTSC Trilogy yet? Have spent hours here and always the same situation =/
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Sorry for the horrid ascii ... its basically a side view * being the tunnel and spider track, o being my ball placement and - being this platform I'm talking about and the other invisible platforms you can encounter if you were lower down... also, while you're up here, you can bomb, roll around, leave the controller alone... and you wont fall off. I've jumped up there a ton of times and I always encounter the same thing. At first I thought maybe I was jumping up too high but any lower and I dont get on. Also I'm not sitting on the lip above the tunnel either... not sure if I'm explaining myself good or not..
Has anyone else got in there on the NTSC Trilogy yet? Have spent hours here and always the same situation =/