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Archived M2K2 Forum
Quote from Duo Maxwell:
You could always just wall jump up the left side and back onto a platform. Or you could freeze a Rinka and use it as a platform to get back up onto the platforms.
That's it! :D
I think it shold be no big problem to run through ZM without the Power Grip. But there's this stupid wall...
Quote from Metroiddestruktor:
I think it shold be no big problem to run through ZM without the Power Grip. But there's this stupid wall...
Power Grip CANNOT be skipped. Many many people have tried. Did you see the pic StarmanHaxor posted just a bit ago?
If you manage to get to this spot (this is the room just right of the main Brinstar-Norfair elevator) WITHOUT picking up power grip, the "plant barrier" thingy will block your progress. This was put in intentionally by the designers to prevent you skipping the power grip. There are other things put into the game to prevent you skipping anything that the game designers deemed ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to finishing the game. I'm guessing they wanted to prevent anyone "accidentally" skipping a required item on the first playthrough, then getting irretrievably stuck/trapped at some later point in the game.
Quote from MonsterERB:
Did you see the pic StarmanHaxor posted just a bit ago?
If you manage to get to this spot
If you manage to get to this spot
Thanks for your explanation, I saw the picture. and I'm able to reach this spot. ;-)
It's a pitty that the designers did such a great work, preventing gamers from skipping thoose essential items... :(
I wouldn't call that laziness. It was necessary because the game was structured into a story. If it were possible to get the upgrades out of order either the text would be messed up or it would require an unbelievable amount of text to account for all the possible sequences, not to mention flags like the larvae turning into cocoons and then insects. Fixing the order in which things need to be done/gotten was inevitable from the design decision to include a story and a lot of before/after states.
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Exactly, it's a sort of...I want to make a word based on "ethnocentrism" but I can't work it out...viewpoint that only takes sequence and sequence breaking into account when you say Fusion's hardcoded barriers were lazy. Fusion was merely a different kind of game, far more story-driven than any other Metroid game.
Time bomb set get out fast!
Point taken. In fact, normally I'd be the one making such points -- I take a very dim view of the "sequence breaking is all" philosophy that leads to Retro-flaming and such. But something just feels wrong about event++. The fact that a player can find an ingenious way to get a Power Bomb tank early, only to be unable to use it, is really frustrating, and runs counter to the inventiveness that so many of the best games reward.
Fusion's story is one of its greatest strengths, but the story didn't need to be so... fused to Samus's upgrades. There were already other mechanisms in place, like the various Security Door levels. Yes, it would have been hard to design the game to allow for getting some powerups out of order, but it couldn't have been much harder than designing it to keep Samus out of each area until she had the abilities she needed, and Nintendo did that flawlessly. (It's only because of ARs that we even know about the event++ problem.) A happy medium must exist, and I'm just sorry they didn't find it.
Besides, they could at least have made the dialogue scenes skippable. Tell me THAT'S not laziness.
Fusion's story is one of its greatest strengths, but the story didn't need to be so... fused to Samus's upgrades. There were already other mechanisms in place, like the various Security Door levels. Yes, it would have been hard to design the game to allow for getting some powerups out of order, but it couldn't have been much harder than designing it to keep Samus out of each area until she had the abilities she needed, and Nintendo did that flawlessly. (It's only because of ARs that we even know about the event++ problem.) A happy medium must exist, and I'm just sorry they didn't find it.
Besides, they could at least have made the dialogue scenes skippable. Tell me THAT'S not laziness.
Time bomb set get out fast!
I can relate, Starman. The main reason I took so long to win the final SA-X battle is that I had to screw up my courage each time just to face that thing -- not exactly good conditions for formulating a strategy.
And I don't care what the rest of you say, I love Fusion's story. No game has ever had such a brilliant excuse for the character having to re-acquire every powerup.
And I don't care what the rest of you say, I love Fusion's story. No game has ever had such a brilliant excuse for the character having to re-acquire every powerup.