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Gamma Metroid: 2011-06-29 01:14:22 am

2011-06-29 01:11:20 am

Ok.
Thanks for the response.
¿Does metroid2002 have a tutorial or something for doing IBBF? I was searching for a video or explanation but I couldn't find it

Jerry9

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Jerry9: 2011-06-29 07:07:28 pm

2011-06-29 06:57:41 pm

not evil,just hungry

This video takes a fairly easy route. He does a few unnecessary things, but for the most part I would recommend following his route if you have never done ibbf before.
A few notes:
At 2:12 he wait for some shriekbats. The only important thing here is that an inbounds trigger has been touched and has made the next room load. You can do a door jump instead.
At 2:30, he jumps off the pipe and does a crazy maneuver to get the next room to load. If you have problems with this, just walk along the ceiling instead.
At 3:06, he fails to stay on top of the door. The following route is good to see as it will help you if you fall. However, it is much easier to stay on top of the door and jump over the ceiling. Your goal is to get to where he is at 3:56.
At 3:56, he bomb jumps around on a sticky ceiling. This is right above the morph ball tunnel entrance. Touching this area is necessary as it causes the second half of the tunnel to load.
At 4:13, he morphs at a morph ball tunnel door. This moves the map to the next room and fully loads it. You can tell if you did this step correctly by checking your map.
At 4:28, he is trying to jam his head into the floor to touch an inbounds loading trigger. This allows you to load the room next to the wave door without having the wave beam. He misses it a few times. He fires some shots near the door to see if he hit the trigger. If the room is loaded, it will block your beam shots.
At 6:22, he does the same maeuver as 2:30. It is easier to just walk along the ceiling again.
At 7:00, there are a lot of routes through this room. This one is a bit long, but fairly easy.
At 8:22, he goes back and forth through the door after having the room load around him. This is necessary to prevent the game from crashing. (In detail; the game uses the map to decide what rooms to load and unload. If you try to load a room while the map is on the wrong room, the game will unload your current room and crash. Going through the door puts the map on the correct room.)

A good introduction to secret worlds and other techniques can be found at http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Metroid_Prime/Techniques

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PImNiW2kCHQ

This video takes a fairly easy route.  He does a few unnecessary things, but for the most part I would recommend following his route if you have never done ibbf before.
A few notes:
At 2:12 he wait for some shriekbats.  The only important thing here is that an inbounds trigger has been touched and has made the next room load.  You can do a door jump instead.
At 2:30, he jumps off the pipe and does a crazy maneuver to get the next room to load.  If you have problems with this, just walk along the ceiling instead.
At 3:06, he fails to stay on top of the door.  The following route is good to see as it will help you if you fall.  However, it is much easier to stay on top of the door and jump over the ceiling.  Your goal is to get to where he is at 3:56.
At 3:56, he bomb jumps around on a sticky ceiling.  This is right above the morph ball tunnel entrance.  Touching this area is necessary as it causes the second half of the tunnel to load.
At 4:13, he morphs at a morph ball tunnel door.  This moves the map to the next room and fully loads it.  You can tell if you did this step correctly by checking your map.
At 4:28, he is trying to jam his head into the floor to touch an inbounds loading trigger.  This allows you to load the room next to the wave door without having the wave beam.  He misses it a few times.  He fires some shots near the door to see if he hit the trigger.  If the room is loaded, it will block your beam shots.
At 6:22, he does the same maeuver as 2:30.  It is easier to just walk along the ceiling again.
At 7:00, there are a lot of routes through this room.  This one is a bit long, but fairly easy.
At 8:22, he goes back and forth through the door after having the room load around him.  This is necessary to prevent the game from crashing.  (In detail; the game uses the map to decide what rooms to load and unload.  If you try to load a room while the map is on the wrong room, the game will unload your current room and crash.  Going through the door puts the map on the correct room.)

A good introduction to secret worlds and other techniques can be found at http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Metroid_Prime/Techniques

Gamma Metroid

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Gamma Metroid: 2011-06-30 12:57:10 am

2011-06-30 12:56:11 am

Thanks a lot for the guide. I have trouble in the first door because the game crashes and I fall down. (I know this is because of the map)

I'm new at this and I dont' know which technique was used at 1:20. It seems it is a bomb jump. Can you tell me which specific technique it is?
It would be useful for me to practice this technique before doing the IBBF.

Jerry9

2011-06-30 07:44:19 am

not evil,just hungry

The thing at 1:20 is a bomb jump while holding the control stick towards the wall. This results in a very short jump due to the sticky walls in a secret world. (To get the full height you have to let the control stick go to the neutral position just before the bomb explodes.) He then unmorphs before the bomb jump momentum goes away and lands on the door. It is probably easier to bomb jump onto the ceiling and jump to the door from there.

T3

2011-07-21 07:06:26 pm

Looking for a 21% video of the bomb jump in phendrana's edge from the branch to the upper snowy ledge.

Does anybody still have this video..?

MilesSMB

2011-07-21 07:08:50 pm

Wouldn't you rather spend a couple hours on the wallcrawl instead?

T3

2011-07-21 09:06:30 pm

Yeah.. but it's way too slow >_>

Jerry9

2011-07-21 09:07:56 pm

not evil,just hungry

http://www.metroid2002.com/without_space_jump_phendranas_edge.php

Doesn't have the bomb jump, it uses a ghetto jump.
can't tell if that video actually has space jump or not. If it does, some jumps may actually be harder than they appear.

T3

2011-07-21 09:13:54 pm

I can't seem to make the ghetto jump without space jump..

T3

2011-07-31 11:45:26 am

Well i figured out the bomb jump and completed the room without space jump:

This is not spliced.

bartendorsparky

2011-07-31 12:24:46 pm

always move fast

that's the first time i've seen it all done the fast way. very, very cool.

rekameohs

2011-07-31 03:15:28 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

I have no idea how anyone found that out the first time.

Awesome stuff.

Turtle

2011-07-31 03:18:43 pm

I like turtles.

Neat. Of course, it's almost certainly a nightmare to pull off...

Jerry9

2011-07-31 03:46:58 pm

not evil,just hungry

awesomesauce
too awesome, not sure what else to say

T3

2011-08-01 12:13:49 am

thanks guys =p

Quote:

Of course, it's almost certainly a nightmare to pull off...

it actually wasn't nearly as hard as i thought it was going to be.

rekameohs

2011-08-01 01:06:07 am

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from T3:

it actually wasn't nearly as hard as i thought it was going to be.

So does that raise the chances of a 21% speed run? :O

UchihaSasuke

2011-08-01 05:59:01 am

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

good thing the worst wallcrawl of the 21% route is gone now.
i didn't know you could stand on the grapple point.

T3

2011-08-01 03:53:35 pm

Quote from rekameohs:

Quote from T3:

it actually wasn't nearly as hard as i thought it was going to be.

So does that raise the chances of a 21% speed run? :O

maybe eventually. though, i would have to learn gth in bounds which is definitely the hardest room >_>

Opium

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Opium: 2011-08-11 09:53:55 am

2011-08-11 01:28:06 am

"I need help" finding the thread that someone made which showed a screenshot with an image of what looks like an aurora unit that was located on the frigate. Does anyone remember that thread? The author took a screenshot of it and asked if anyone else could find that image.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't an aurora unit but instead it was an image of an old-school looking metroid.

Baby Sheegoth

2011-08-11 03:20:03 am

Quote from T3:

Quote from rekameohs:

Quote from T3:

it actually wasn't nearly as hard as i thought it was going to be.

So does that raise the chances of a 21% speed run? :O

maybe eventually. though, i would have to learn gth in bounds which is definitely the hardest room >_>

Christ, GTH is a nightmare in or out of bounds. Phen Edge isn't easy either, congrats on that video mate

Jerry9

2011-08-11 05:47:10 pm

not evil,just hungry

Quote from Opium:

"I need help" finding the thread that someone made which showed a screenshot with an image of what looks like an aurora unit that was located on the frigate. Does anyone remember that thread? The author took a screenshot of it and asked if anyone else could find that image.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't an aurora unit but instead it was an image of an old-school looking metroid.

this perhaps?

Opium

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Opium: 2011-08-12 06:51:18 am

2011-08-12 06:48:12 am

Naw, but thanks anyways. It was like one of those lit up orange panels on the frigate in the beginning of the game that had an image of either a metroid or mother brain.

I found it:
http://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/find_the_super_metroid.html

Hazel

2011-08-19 07:49:08 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

has anyone done the main plaza SW without space jump??

T3

2011-08-20 12:50:27 am

The alternative way is probably possible, though i haven't done it.

Hazel

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Hazel: 2011-08-23 02:06:44 pm

2011-08-23 02:04:53 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

anyone know why you can't load phazon processing center from an out of bounds state without the game crashing unless you dont have plasma????