The "Currently Playing..." Topic

arkarian

2010-02-13 04:35:27 pm

red chamber dream

am i playing heroes iii right now? why yes — yes i am.

tomatobob

2010-02-13 04:46:37 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from arkarian:

tower is probably the "best" town in the game if you're on a map with a high amount of resources. creature for creature, tower cleans up. i don't play it often, but i actually like most of the creatures in the town a lot (fuck gargoyles).

Due to recent events my opinion of Tower has changed. Fuck fucking Tower. Fuck it.

I started a game as Necropolis and wound up with a hostile Tower just upstairs about a turn away from my town. Cue constant stream of assholes with Gargoyles and Golems. Vampire Lords cannot do shit against those so I brought in Power Liches but the enemy heroes were all LOL LIGHTNING LICHES! So I had to replace those and Vampire Lords constantly. Of course this is early on in the match so I didn't have much money so anything my Town was bringing in was sucked up immediately. I finally managed to scrape together what troops I could and made a suicide charge against the Tower which was surprisingly poorly defended and cleared them out. I still ended up quitting starting up a new round because stupid.

Quote from arkarian:

am i playing heroes iii right now? why yes — yes i am.

Yesssss. Everyone needs to play Heroes 3 all the time.

[quote="arkarian"]tower is probably the "best" town in the game if you're on a map with a high amount of resources. creature for creature, tower cleans up. i don't play it often, but i actually like most of the creatures in the town a lot (fuck gargoyles).[/quote]
Due to recent events my opinion of Tower has changed. Fuck fucking Tower. Fuck it.

I started a game as Necropolis and wound up with a hostile Tower just upstairs about a turn away from my town. Cue constant stream of assholes with Gargoyles and Golems. Vampire Lords cannot do [i]shit[/i] against those so I brought in Power Liches but the enemy heroes were all LOL LIGHTNING LICHES! So I had to replace those [i]and[/i] Vampire Lords constantly. Of course this is early on in the match so I didn't have much money so anything my Town was bringing in was sucked up immediately. I finally managed to scrape together what troops I could and made a suicide charge against the Tower which was surprisingly poorly defended and cleared them out. I still ended up quitting starting up a new round because stupid.

[quote="arkarian"]am i playing heroes iii right now? why yes — yes i am.[/quote]
Yesssss. Everyone needs to play Heroes 3 all the time.

arkarian

2010-02-13 04:51:49 pm

red chamber dream

yep. there's a reason tower's troops are so expensive. ;)

ryu

2010-02-13 05:42:45 pm

Quote from Toozin:

It's your own fault for not playing DMC3 instead.

Finished replaying that one just a few days ago. :p

Also, I had Phantom already beaten when I posted that up there. Just felt like venting on these camera angles, which turned out even more annoying in that second Nelo Angelo fight.

But whatever. I'm at mission 16 or 17 already.

Poision Envy

2010-02-13 05:53:53 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from tomatobob:

Yesssss. Everyone needs to play Heroes 3 all the time.

its to old and pixely :/

arkarian

2010-02-13 07:06:48 pm

red chamber dream

do you say that about every relatively old game? heroes iii's graphics still look great.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-02-13 07:10:22 pm

Fuck you, Cyber-Akuma!

Poision Envy

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Poision Envy: 2010-02-13 09:10:28 pm

2010-02-13 09:10:15 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from arkarian:

do you say that about every relatively old game? heroes iii's graphics still look great.

Quote from arkarian:

still look great

No.

arkarian

2010-02-13 09:14:08 pm

red chamber dream

looks good to me. it's of course not approaching photorealism like today's 3d stuff, but they're very well-drawn and well-animated sprites.

Poision Envy

2010-02-13 09:21:59 pm

Club 27 Goals

I just hate it when you have a 2D games, and they try to make it look all 3D when its all pixely like that. Sure they were revolutionary back then, but nowadays I just find it really annoying. Diablo II does it as well, but it just doesn't annoy me as much for some reason, but is still pretty annoying. I guess its because I didn't grow up with that kinda stuff so it just seems weird.

tomatobob

2010-02-13 09:26:37 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Poision Envy:

its to old and pixely :/

You're too old and pixely. Not playing Heroes 3 is for lamers.

I'm gonna go ahead and say Necropolis just isn't my thing. I've played around with it for most of the day so I've finally started to get used to how you have to play it, but everything's just so fragile and you don't have much offensive power. It's absolutely killer against random monsters but going against heroes and besieging towns is brutal. Liches get gangbanged by magic and shooters and those are all you've got as far as shooters, and they're all that's keeping your Vampires from getting overwhelmed. Dread Knights are pretty much your offense against the tougher enemies and are wonderful in every way, but they can't be everywhere. Ghost Dragons are lame and Zombies are the worst thing. Skeletons end up being amazing once you get going, you get hundreds of them very quickly for free and with Haste they can actually get involved in the fight and out damage pretty much everything that isn't a Dread Knight.

I can see why people like it and it's a very good town, but it feels like I have to replace half my army after real fight which is lame. I'm probably doing something wrong and that would explain things, but I just prefer creatures that actually have hit points and that can actually do something during a siege. Holy shit Necropolis is bad at sieges.

[quote="Poision Envy"]its to old and pixely :/[/quote]
[i]You're[/i] too old and pixely. Not playing Heroes 3 is for lamers.

I'm gonna go ahead and say Necropolis just isn't my thing. I've played around with it for most of the day so I've finally started to get used to how you have to play it, but everything's just so fragile and you don't have much offensive power. It's absolutely killer against random monsters but going against heroes and besieging towns is brutal. Liches get gangbanged by magic and shooters and those are all you've got as far as shooters, and they're all that's keeping your Vampires from getting overwhelmed. Dread Knights are pretty much your offense against the tougher enemies and are wonderful in every way, but they can't be everywhere. Ghost Dragons are lame and Zombies are the worst thing. Skeletons end up being amazing once you get going, you get hundreds of them very quickly for free and with Haste they can actually get involved in the fight and out damage pretty much everything that isn't a Dread Knight.

I can see why people like it and it's a very good town, but it feels like I have to replace half my army after real fight which is lame. I'm probably doing something wrong and that would explain things, but I just prefer creatures that actually have hit points and that can actually do something during a siege. Holy shit Necropolis is bad at sieges.

arkarian

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arkarian: 2010-02-13 09:48:40 pm

2010-02-13 09:47:16 pm

red chamber dream

heh yeah, not many ranged strikers or fliers. i tend to rely on spells and whatnot for sieges. it does help that skeleton warriors and dread knights are the best units of their respective levels, and ghost dragons are actually pretty damn good. their aging ability is one of the best in the game plus they give -1 to enemy morale. can really clean up with just one of them sitting on sidelines.

tomatobob

2010-02-14 12:54:43 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Ghost Dragons last all of three seconds under a slight breeze and have difficulty killing Serpent Flies. That's pretty awful considering the cost and the fact that they're supposed to be level 7 units. They are worse than Arch Devils in almost every way. Arch Devils are not good.

Idkbutlike2

2010-02-14 08:45:28 am

Wait by Heroes III, do you mean Heroes of Might and Magic? I've the game's disc lying around somewhere and I was wondering if it was a good game.

TheGreenManalishi

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TheGreenManalishi: 2010-02-14 09:32:11 am

TheGreenManalishi: 2010-02-14 09:31:50 am

2010-02-14 09:02:35 am

Richter mode in Portrait of Ruin is like the Zero Mission of Castlevania, although the levelling system combined with the extremely fast pacing makes me wish other Metroidvanias were like it. Still, the Richter/Maria combo lacks the depth of the RPG-esque gameplay modes of Symphony, Sorrow games, etc..

Prime Hunter

2010-02-14 09:29:40 am

Quote from Poision Envy:

Quote from arkarian:

do you say that about every relatively old game? heroes iii's graphics still look great.

Quote from arkarian:

still look great

No.

Maybe it is because I grew up with the old games as well, because it doesn't look that bad still. Although, I find the original X-COM graphics to still be good after what, 16 or so years? So what do I know?

Anyway, I remember playing Heroes II and III back in the day, and seeing that image again makes me remember when my family used to play hotseat games alongside computer opponents. Couldn't tell you who liked what at this point because it was so long ago, but it was definitely a great strategy game for the time, and from what I've been able to tell over the years, the greatest strategy games of that age can still fight with the best of what we've got now. So to answer your question Idkbutlike2, yeah, they're talking about Heroes of Might and Magic III, and if you have it and can make it run, go ahead and try it out.

[quote="Poision Envy"][quote="arkarian"]do you say that about every relatively old game? heroes iii's graphics still look great.[/quote]

[spoiler="Heroes III Screenshot"][img]http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/gs/strategy/herochron/herochron_screen004.jpg[/img][/spoiler]

[quote="arkarian"]still look great[/quote]

No.[/quote]
Maybe it is because I grew up with the old games as well, because it doesn't look that bad still. Although, I find the original X-COM graphics to still be good after what, 16 or so years? So what do I know?

Anyway, I remember playing Heroes II and III back in the day, and seeing that image again makes me remember when my family used to play hotseat games alongside computer opponents. Couldn't tell you who liked what at this point because it was so long ago, but it was definitely a great strategy game for the time, and from what I've been able to tell over the years, the greatest strategy games of that age can still fight with the best of what we've got now. So to answer your question Idkbutlike2, yeah, they're talking about Heroes of Might and Magic III, and if you have it and can make it run, go ahead and try it out.

Da Dood

2010-02-14 10:53:17 am

Dood Trigger™

Going to a friend's house in a few moments for a huge gaming marathon. Resident Evil 5, Super Mario World and Street Fighter II (both on a real SNES!), Dead Space and inFamous on the menu.

Prime Hunter

2010-02-14 11:56:33 am

That kind of sounds funny when you point out that Mario and Street Fighter are on a real SNES. Granted, the system came out almost 20 years ago now, so having a working system is starting to get rarer.

But that's beside the point. Although I've never played any of the other three, it sounds like it should be a blast. Seems like an odd bunch of games to have together from what I can tell, but who cares as long as you're enjoying them, right?

Opium

2010-02-14 01:12:28 pm

I'm currently playing: Metroid Prime (trilogy version). I haven't touched the original version since the trilogy came out, maybe I'll go back to the old one after this playthrough. The differences are less apparent to me because I don't do any sequence breaking in the prime games.

tomatobob

2010-02-14 03:44:07 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Wait by Heroes III, do you mean Heroes of Might and Magic? I've the game's disc lying around somewhere and I was wondering if it was a good game.

ya its pretty good man

Prime Hunter

2010-02-14 04:11:54 pm

Quote from Opium:

I'm currently playing: Metroid Prime (trilogy version). I haven't touched the original version since the trilogy came out, maybe I'll go back to the old one after this playthrough. The differences are less apparent to me because I don't do any sequence breaking in the prime games.

Yeah, besides blocking up sequence breaks I can't think of too much different as far as content goes. Some of the bosses are altered a little (Meta Ridley in Prime comes to mind, as he has that stomp attack that they added in later versions of the game) and there's obviously the Wii Remote for Prime and Echoes, but besides that they're relatively minor changes from what I remember.

Da Dood

2010-02-14 08:04:13 pm

Dood Trigger™

We played a lot of inFamous, some RE5 and tried some demos, so there was no time for 16-bit unfortunately. But we often play Super Mario World on the SNES, taking turns for 96 exits or racing in the fastest route, and it's always an incredible experience.

tomatobob

2010-02-15 06:53:00 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Tried out the Trilogy version of Echoes. Not really sure what to make of it the Wii controls are nice but, I don't know, they just feel wrong. The game just wasn't designed for that kind of controls scheme, Echoes asks you to do a lot of visor switching and it's not as smooth here as it was on the Gamecube and I can only imagine that beam switching gets annoying fast. Other than that, the cutscenes are still unbearable (Though I did like how the game goes into cutscene mode when you first spot Dark Samus then kicks out just so you can take a couple steps forward to be launched into yet more cutscene, glad I was allowed control for those tenths of a second!) and Bomb Guardian is still a lame boss like pretty much all of the others in the game and Agon is still boring as hell. I saved before Jump Guardian because I know he's just going to be annoying then switched to Corruption and the control felt a million times better. It being a better game probably helps too, but never mind that.

Toozin

2010-02-15 07:09:54 am

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I thought Echoes was about 100% better with wii controlls. Beam/visor switching is a little irky, but a lot of the combat is so much less annoying. Plus the Spider Guardian is so much less frustrating with spring ball.

tomatobob

2010-02-15 07:28:09 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Oh yeah, the combat has worked great so far, I don't remember there being many fights that really require you to switch beams too much so it probably wont get as messy as I imagine it getting. It's just that having to flip over to the scan visor all the time early on wears thin real fast now that it's no longer a quick button press away.

I also totally hadn't considered the effect of the spring ball against Spider Guardian. Yeah, would make the game significantly better on its own.