[SM] Super Metroid << REWIND

CaptainCanada

2008-03-11 08:42:18 am

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

CaptainCanada: Without revealing locations, what was the most cleverly hidden item?

The ones I didn't find. :D

CaptainCanada

2008-03-11 08:44:44 am

Quote from CaptainCanada:

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

CaptainCanada: Without revealing locations, what was the most cleverly hidden item?

The ones I didn't find. :D

Edit: I checked, I am missing 1 power bomb and a bunch of missiles.

squishy_ichigo

2008-03-11 01:25:14 pm

. . .

Yeah, alot of the missles have been changed, but you should have found the PBs.
Did you like the reserve tank locations?

CaptainCanada

2008-03-11 02:01:27 pm

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

Yeah, alot of the missles have been changed, but you should have found the PBs.
Did you like the reserve tank locations?

I just got the last PBs (don't know how I missed that one), and a few more missiles. Now at 91%. The reserve tanks were mad cool.

Cpadolf

2008-03-11 02:46:20 pm

Almost happy

Crap, I went to WS first and got missiles, then I got grapple and went down the main RB shaft before going back to WS (I guess there where more things to do there with grapple) and now I don't think I can get out... And all my savestates are past that point.

Fano7

2008-03-11 03:28:00 pm

Every Bit Counts

go into green brinstar via Red Brinstar, the to Blue Brinstar via Green Brinstar, then get morph ball. Youre suppost to get grapple, then missiles, then go back doen, but with CWJ's, you can get into WS early.

Sneaky Paradox

2008-03-11 07:54:11 pm

Can someone give me a hint to the super missiles? I'm in the first room in Green Brinstar (the room before where old early super missiles are).

squishy_ichigo

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squishy_ichigo: 2008-03-11 09:45:29 pm

2008-03-11 09:07:21 pm

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Quote:

Can someone give me a hint to the super missiles? I'm in the first room in Green Brinstar (the room before where old early super missiles are).

What was the last item you got? Its probably still to early for you to get them! In Rewind, you get them much later than usually!

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I went outside of the lost ship (as if you were going towards Maridia) and got stuck underwater. & by that I mean I couldn't jump out

Also, thanks for noticeing these design flaws! It will help me finalize the game! I will try to wait a while before 1.9 to see if any other problems occur and fix them all at once. That will be the final patch, and I will fix the opening movie also!

Kriole

2008-03-12 04:46:34 am

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

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Can someone give me a hint to the super missiles? I'm in the first room in Green Brinstar (the room before where old early super missiles are).

What was the last item you got? Its probably still to early for you to get them! In Rewind, you get them much later than usually!

You can get them right after the speedbooster, and that's rather early.

Cpadolf

2008-03-12 04:59:35 am

Almost happy

Quote from Fano7:

Spoiler

Yeah but AFAIK you can't make it to green brinstar from the bottom of the RB shaft without hi-jump... Maybe I didn't look closely enough.

Also you can get stuck at several places without morphball, for example there are a some several 2 block high spaces where you can wedge yourself in. And I think you can get stuck in the pre icebeam room. (did not search for exits for very long though)

It's kind of unavoidable though, that's the downside of leaving morphball for later I guess.

Sneaky Paradox

2008-03-12 07:29:47 am

I don't remember the last item I got. Speed Booster maybe?

Anima Zero

2008-03-12 08:18:56 am

Quote from Sneaky Paradox:

I don't remember the last item I got. Speed Booster maybe?

My memory's a little foggy, but try searching the areas around Samus's Ship.

squishy_ichigo

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squishy_ichigo: 2008-03-12 09:38:35 am

2008-03-12 08:38:03 am

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Quote:

You can get them right after the speedbooster, and that's rather early.

yeah... I leave one SM open, and every one finds it! Damn you all for mastering mockball! J/K, But in the intended sequence, you don't get SM until after Phantom

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Yeah but AFAIK you can't make it to green brinstar from the bottom of the RB shaft without hi-jump... Maybe I didn't look closely enough.

If you have the Ice Beam, you can get out, you just have to wall jump alittle more than usual! If you don't have Ice Beam, then you'll need to explore Norfair a little more 'thoroughly'

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for example there are a some several 2 block high spaces where you can wedge yourself in

I also plan to fix all those 2-square areas that you can get stuck in. I fixed a couple... can you tell any specific spots?

I found
-room to ridley
-last norfair escape room
-missles before morphball
-grapple beam room
-missles room in RB elevator
-speedbooster room, norfair

other problems to fix:
-getting stuck after WS entering Maridia
-early plasma beam
-getting stuck in Norfair Mockball room

[quote]
You can get them right after the speedbooster, and that's rather early.
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[spoiler]yeah... I leave one SM open, and every one finds it!  Damn you all for mastering mockball!  J/K, But in the intended sequence, you don't get SM until after Phantom[/spoiler]

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[quote]Yeah but AFAIK you can't make it to green brinstar from the bottom of the RB shaft without hi-jump... Maybe I didn't look closely enough.[/quote]

If you have the Ice Beam, you can get out, you just have to wall jump alittle more than usual!  If you don't have Ice Beam, then you'll need to explore Norfair a little more 'thoroughly'

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for example there are a some several 2 block high spaces where you can wedge yourself in[/quote]

I also plan to fix all those 2-square areas that you can get stuck in.  I fixed a couple... can you tell any specific spots?

I found
-room to ridley
-last norfair escape room
-missles before morphball
-grapple beam room
-missles room in RB elevator
-speedbooster room, norfair

other problems to fix: 
-getting stuck after WS entering Maridia
-early plasma beam
-getting stuck in Norfair Mockball room

Cpadolf

2008-03-12 02:16:28 pm

Almost happy

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

If you have the Ice Beam, you can get out, you just have to wall jump alittle more than usual! If you don't have Ice Beam, then you'll need to explore Norfair a little more 'thoroughly'

Yeah nevermind, I'm just past the torizo now.

Also why would you need mockball to get the super missile? (in the room close the the ship) I don't remember using it.

squishy_ichigo

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squishy_ichigo: 2008-03-12 04:11:18 pm

2008-03-12 03:14:59 pm

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Mockball => SB
SB => Super Missles
I ment to say, that unless you get SB, you can't get early Supers.

edit:
Ok, I'm done. If any other BIG problems occur I'll fix em, but unless otherwise noted, this is the FINAL patch. 1.9 is up, so apply it, and enjoy it!

Cpadolf

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Cpadolf: 2008-03-12 04:17:28 pm

2008-03-12 04:14:31 pm

Almost happy

Ah, yes...

So wait your not supposed to get speedbooster until after Power bombs? Which are not supposed to be gotten until after draygon?

Anyway, mission completed, Clear time 01:55, 67% item collection. Funny hack, I especially liked the early parts, up till after LN was really great.
Kraid sucked from being VEEEEEERY long without plasma though (I went Ridley Kraid Phantoon Draygon) and

Gravity suitless maridia is really never fun

All in all, some downsides, more upsides. A memorable hack which I will probably replay at least once more. However though I pretty much know the route for it I decline the RBO challenge, mostly because of kraid...

squishy_ichigo

2008-03-12 04:17:34 pm

. . .

Yes, Kraids a bitch...

But I kept suitless maridia to a minimum! Unlike Limit did...

Your the second to beat it! And thanks for your kind words! Good luck with the missle tanks!

Cpadolf

2008-03-12 04:38:36 pm

Almost happy

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

Good luck with the missle tanks!

Nah, I'm not the 100% kind of guy, I haven't collected 100% in any hack (except really really small ones and boss rush hacks) and even in the original I have barely ever collected 100%.

sonic shadow

2008-03-12 09:09:39 pm

Well, I have 3 tanks, 20 missiles, and the Ice beam, and I'm COMPLETELY stuck in the norfair bubble room. Help please >.>

CaptainCanada

2008-03-12 10:27:43 pm

Quote from sonic shadow:

Well, I have 3 tanks, 20 missiles, and the Ice beam, and I'm COMPLETELY stuck in the norfair bubble room. Help please >.>

Go to brinstar.

squishy_ichigo

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squishy_ichigo: 2008-03-13 09:47:50 am

2008-03-13 08:42:51 am

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And good luck too! With onlt three tanks, escaping Norfair will take almost exacting percesion! But its possilbe...

edit: I didn't update the game again, why would I do that? I said it was the final one didn't I? Ok, you got me... 2 BIG problems were found and fixed... don't blame me! Ok, you can blame me...

CaptainCanada

2008-03-13 08:23:42 pm

I just finished an RBO. 4:17 completion time, because I wasted a lot of time tring to find a way to get plasma before kraid. 99% completion. The one missing item: bombs 8-)

Kriole

2008-03-14 09:05:30 pm

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Is the grapple beam required to make the morph ball spawn?

Cpadolf

2008-03-15 11:17:49 am

Almost happy

No it's something else (probably icebeam) I checked both before and after grapple collection and blue brinstar is still in it's "nothing to see here" state.

Kriole

2008-03-15 11:57:00 am

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Quote from Cpadolf:

No it's something else (probably icebeam) I checked both before and after grapple collection and blue brinstar is still in it's "nothing to see here" state.

Turns out it is the missile pack in the old red brinstar giant sidehopper room.