Super Metroid Old School

2010-01-09 04:38:10 pm

That looks awesome! (spoiler tags are best for large imgs tho)

2010-01-09 07:40:22 pm

Yeah, the pictures are great. But I have 2 questions about them. 1 question per picture.

First picture: why the room are 3 screens in width? Are you planning to add something to the rightest 2 screens? I know, the default escape shaft was 3 screens in width, but why not to resize your room?

In case, if you don't know, you can copy to clipboars more than a single block. HOLD right button to select multiple blocks. Max is 1 full screen (16*16 blocks)

Since, the many rooms consists from similar screens, this trick will be very helpful for you

Second picture: where are the doors? I guess, you've got errors while opening them. Am I right?

tbolt76

2010-01-09 10:08:16 pm

Well thats an easy one to answer. resizing the room would have screwed up the elevator and i might add on later nice to have the option open and i havent added doors because i do have errors when opening them so i just put in the doorways and wll worry about the bule doors later

Quietus

2010-01-10 03:28:56 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I'm curious to know whether you're resizing anything for the differing jump physics from game to game, or are you just recreating tile for tile?

JAM

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JAM: 2010-01-10 09:48:05 pm

2010-01-10 09:36:52 pm

Quote from tbolt76:

resizing the room would have screwed up the elevator and i might add on later

It's very easy to do and takes about 3 minutes.

1. Copy your ROM.
2. Open your new ROM and choose your escape shaft room.
3. Resize the room and save. Room will be garbled, but that's ok for now.
4. Change the room.
5. Open your old ROM and choose your escape shaft room.
6. Copy the entire screen (start from upper) to clipboard.
7. Change the room.
8. Open your new ROM and choose your escape shaft room.
9. Paste content in clipboard to your room (start from upper screen).
A. Repeat steps 4..9 until the end.

Also, the elevator with red numbers "05" under it will not works unless you add a new door to this room (as long as this room has only 5 doors). If you haven't do so, change the numbers to any unused from 00 to 04 (01, 02 or 04).

Quote from tbolt76:

and i havent added doors because i do have errors when opening them so i just put in the doorways and wll worry about the bule doors later

As I thought... You see, blue bubbles must have the right values of
red numbers on it. Door going left (bubble facing right) must have these values:

red number type of block
41 shootable
FF vertical line
FE vertical line
FD vertical line

And for the door going right (bubble facing left):
red number type of block
40 shootable
FF vertical line
FE vertical line
FD vertical line

Doors with "40 FF FF 40" will always glitch. Doors going right with "40 FF FE FD" will opens to the wrong side. I've seen many of your screenshots and I know that some of your doors has incorrect numbers at the bubbles.

To set correct red number, at the right of screen click BTS
label, select desirable value, grab Metroid from the picture above to
the needable coordites and drop it there.

To create new door, just copy existing door from any original
room (4 tiles at once). Don't flip the bubble!

I know, how you do it (I had the same error in past). You just grabbing 2 tiles from below of sceeen and mirroring it to get 4 bubble tiles. This is wrong...

[quote="tbolt76"]resizing the room would have screwed up the elevator  and i might add on later   
[/quote]
It's very easy to do and takes about 3 minutes.

1. Copy your ROM. 
2. Open your new ROM and choose your escape shaft room.
3. Resize the room and save. Room will be garbled, but that's ok for now.
4. Change the room.
5. Open your old ROM and choose your escape shaft room.
6. Copy the entire screen (start from upper) to clipboard.
7. Change the room.
8. Open your new ROM and choose your escape shaft room.
9. Paste content in clipboard to your room (start from upper screen).
A. Repeat steps 4..9 until the end.

Also, the elevator with red numbers "05" under it will not works unless you add a new door to this room (as long as this room has only 5 doors). If you haven't do so, change the numbers to any unused from 00 to 04 (01, 02 or 04).

[quote="tbolt76"]and i havent added doors because i do have errors when opening them  so i just put in the doorways and wll worry about the bule doors later[/quote]
As I thought... You see, blue bubbles must have the right values of 
red numbers on it. Door going left (bubble facing right) must have these values:

red number	type of block
41		shootable
FF		vertical line
FE		vertical line
FD		vertical line

And for the door going right (bubble facing left):
red number	type of block
40		shootable
FF		vertical line
FE		vertical line
FD		vertical line

Doors with "40 FF FF 40" will always glitch. Doors going right with "40 FF FE FD" will opens to the wrong side. I've seen many of your screenshots and I know that some of your doors has incorrect numbers at the bubbles.

To set correct red number, at the right of screen click BTS 
label, select desirable value, grab Metroid from the picture above to 
the needable coordites and drop it there.

To create new door, just copy existing door from any original 
room (4 tiles at once). Don't flip the bubble!

I know, how you do it (I had the same error in past). You just grabbing 2 tiles from below of sceeen and mirroring it to get 4 bubble tiles. This is wrong...

tbolt76

2010-01-10 09:47:43 pm

The answer to the first question is yes theres a little bit of both. However this is not going to be an exact carbon copy of original metroid otherwise samus would get stuck because of larger size and there some compensation for jumping abillity as well and as for the second yep the door problem has now been solved. now norfiar is really starting to take shape now that im linking up the rooms hopefully somone with asm knowledge can help me with editing mother brains room (zebetites and battle if possible)

tbolt76

2010-01-13 10:37:35 pm

Im truly sorry if this is a double post but this news will make it worth it. I have connceted the rooms in norfiar and the game is really getting some structure to it I even added a hidden area in nofair and the rooms hold some very powerfull items but theres a catch you have to get past crocomire to get them but for now see if you can recognise these rooms.

attachments:

elevatortoridley.PNG

ridleyhideout.PNG

Tyjet66

2010-01-14 09:38:36 pm

What'd you say?

Pic 1:See the black under the floor? Look like tiling errors to me.
Pic 2:Check the sides of the elevator, the dotted/black pieces seem to be removed except for certain spots, was this intentional?

tbolt76

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tbolt76: 2010-01-25 11:34:51 pm

2010-01-23 11:04:36 pm

Big news folks UPPER NORFAIR IS ENTIRELY DONE!!!!!! All the rooms that you know and love have been faithfully recreated in all their glory and theres a extra section that you can find then you can face crocomire and gain items that will make your time in norfair alot easier now its just ridley's area the a little retooling of wrecked ship and maridia and the JOBS DONE!!!!

Opium

2010-01-26 03:08:08 am

Awesome! So what's the status report (% complete) of the whole project at this point?

tbolt76

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tbolt76: 2010-01-26 11:55:10 pm

2010-01-26 11:50:51 pm

Pic 1:See the black under the floor? Look like tiling errors to me.
Pic 2:Check the sides of the elevator, the dotted/black pieces seem to be removed except for certain spots, was this intentional?Pic 1:See the black under the floor? Look like tiling errors to me.
Pic 2:Check the sides of the elevator, the dotted/black pieces seem to be removed except for certain spots, was this intentional?

I have fixed all the errors thanks for pointing them out

esome! So what's the status report (% complete) of the whole project at this point?

id say 76% done once ridleys done thats th entire old zebes back in all its glory

tbolt76

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tbolt76: 2010-01-26 11:58:19 pm

2010-01-26 11:53:13 pm

I have a major announcement. ALL AREAS OF OLD ZEBES ARE NOW COMPLETE!!!! Old Brinstar tourian both hideouts and norfair are all done!!! and It took me a year to get it done. I still have maridia and the ship and crateria to do and some adjustments to items and eniemeis and thats all she wrote!! scrreens will be posted as soon as theres a repsonse i dont want to triple post

tbolt76

2010-02-09 07:06:54 pm

Sorry about this but I just can no longer wait for no reply these screenshots will be worth the while!!

attachments:

revised kraids room.PNG

yellowbrinstar.PNG

Saga

2010-02-10 07:05:51 am

Abandon All Hope !!

Very Very Nice Workkkkk !!!!!!!
I have no word !!
finally old times
I miss playgame but need play this rom it beauty
I wait playgame

tbolt76

2010-02-10 07:16:24 pm

Well if you like that get a load of THIS!!

attachments:

revised tourian entrance.PNG

ridley2.PNG

M

2010-02-11 04:07:14 pm

Tremoid

just a thought, when i was posting about my MFX hack i was told not to put pictures on here with PNG files, how come no one has told him not to do that???
btw the hack looks cool though.

Quietus

2010-02-11 05:06:29 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

It's .bmp's that are frowned upon, as they're (often) huuuuuuge. .png's are actually the preferred format.

JAM

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JAM: 2010-02-13 05:24:57 am

JAM: 2010-02-13 05:24:48 am

2010-02-13 05:20:22 am

Gold Brinstar is looking fantastic. Although, maybe change the upper and lower row of blocks in that room... 2 rows in a row are the same.

And in the room before Ridley's lair the white bricks of
floor are looking too segmented:
3 blocks | 2 blocks | 2 blocks | 02 02 |1 block | 3 blocks | 3 blocks

Should be:
7 blocks | 02 02 | 7 blocks

After that used space of your room will be reduced a bit.

And the pipes of the very low row are asymmetric. Will you change them?

I like what you've done at all, but take a look at details a little more

infinitysend

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infinitysend: 2010-02-26 11:27:08 am

infinitysend: 2010-02-26 11:18:27 am

2010-02-26 11:17:30 am

MDb Admin

Hey TBolt, I just wanted to say this is coming along really well, and I look forward to playing its completion. We will most definitely do a front page article on this hack when you're done, so please let us know! We may also be interested in doing an interview with you too!

Question: Are you re-editing the sprites of Ridley and Kraid to make them look more like their 8-bit bretheren? Or are you going to be keeping those the same?

--IE c/o Metroid Database

tbolt76

2010-02-28 10:48:36 pm

Im Really glad you like it. Ridley and kraid will be the same as in super metroid. What this game is is a sm/m1 hybrid.. and I am done with all of the old areas. what i plan to do now is make maridia and wrecked ship into m1 style corridoors and shafts. And with the Wrecked ship. It will be located undergorund and It was excavated by the space pirates when they rebuilt zebes for super metroid. Hopefully it will come out good.

Saga

2010-03-20 12:42:47 pm

Abandon All Hope !!

Tbolt76
I'm really happy for you. For leave Ridley and kraid will be the same as in super metroid...
But still only has one thing that's leaving me with the flea behind the ear!
How's is the music of Metroid?
Since we have the classic Super Metroid!
So we have areas that will remind us of that era 8 bits, if I remember I had already talking about it.
I'm giving more support and faith for you to end soon!

See you next time

Sneaky Paradox

2010-03-22 08:06:34 pm

It all looks oh so promising now :]. Keep it going tbolt!

tbolt76

2010-03-26 09:49:35 am

I have a announcement concerning Old school. I have noticed that alot of you dont mind the sm feel to my game while some of you are looking for the game to be completely retro with all of the original tiles and de evolved grahpics. i have decided I am going to give you both!! There will be 2 versions of old school released. And There will be the original music if at all possible. i have not recieved any help in that department at all yet! That is all!!

M

2010-04-23 01:24:24 pm

Tremoid

i dont see the point in a super metroid oldschool version to the game when u can just play the old game is there a point why u doing this??

Blarget2

2010-04-23 04:28:29 pm

Quote from M:

i dont see the point in a super metroid oldschool version to the game when u can just play the old game is there a point why u doing this??

because remakes make life cooler