Started a blindvisor (blindfolded) run

2014-08-01 10:16:08 am

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Real men play with the tv off. Audio cues are for pussies.

Seriously though, this is crazy. Much respect for pullling this off.

SuperSkeetBro

2014-08-10 03:59:48 pm

Tonight is the night i make flaahgra my bitch! Already beat him once while blindfolded and practicing (didnt get to him blind). Now if i can get my other videos to upload properly. My desktop keeps shutting down improperly while they upload And i have to start over. Plus one of my videos i need editting software for because my roommate mooned the camera. I was pist

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2014-08-11 12:53:02 am

I DID IT!!! I tore some shit up with my weed-be-gone arm cannon! Alas flaahgra is no more!!!

Honestly i should have lost on this attempt since i got disoriented several times and made a lot of dumb mistakes but somehow i pulled through. Ill annotate my video to explain the PROPER approach to some of the panels and tunnels as opposed to how i half stumbled upon and half found them.

I dont have all the rest of my vids up but since a few people have been waiting so long to see this fight i will start uploading it immediately! The other few videos are just missles anyways.

upload time says 815 minutes to go haha its only a 27:08 minute clip. dont worry bout the length, most is me climbing arboretum and getting to flaahgra. just skip ahead if impatient.

Littlenino

2014-08-11 02:14:42 am

Holy shit, nice job, man. I've been waiting to see this.

SuperSkeetBro

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SuperSkeetBro: 2014-08-11 07:08:59 pm

2014-08-11 07:07:22 pm

ok the video is up and annotated (only the boss fight is)! Flaahgra starts around 11 minutes into the video. video is on the first post of this thread too.

Daryoshi

2014-08-11 10:57:51 pm

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Could someone point me to a place listing ALL the infinite speed triggers. Also refer me to somewhere i can brush up on the lingo and abbreviations. Its been awhile since i visited here.

Here you go; this was/ is the main topic for this phenomenal qlitch; a list of spots where it can be activated is in the FIRST post: https://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/unlimited_possibilities.html

SuperSkeetBro

2014-08-13 03:30:16 am

daryoshi- there was a link for a video on that thread that didnt work. it was entitled "early impact crater". what is it? do you skip ridley or artifacts or something? also is the glitch to kill ridley faster plausible blind. i saw the video but couldnt tell which parts were important for triggering the glitch. can someone explain it step by step?

also why arent more people commenting? i worked so hard to get here! :( i know most the videos are prolly way too long but i figured more people would have watched the flaahgra fight.

SuperSkeetBro

2014-08-13 03:31:34 am

also one other glitch i read about was the frozen omega pirate glitch. i guess it involves triggering the cutscene at a different spot or somethin to that effect.

StefanvanDijke

2014-08-13 08:00:22 am

Why didn't you do early wild? Not talking

On a serious note, very very well done!

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2014-08-13 08:19:45 am

Quote from SuperSkeetBro:

also why arent more people commenting? i worked so hard to get here! :( i know most the videos are prolly way too long but i figured more people would have watched the flaahgra fight.

i know how that feels.. sorry. i do understand you. but i think it would be a good idea to just keep going and not care about what people think. and you shouldn't let your motivation being brought down by the careless attitude of (some/most?) people. most important is that you're satisfied with it. besides there's still a handful of caring people. the reason why the ntsc any% (SS/seg) category got more runs/players than any of the other categories is because most people of course are only interested in the metroid prime ntsc flagship (Any%/overall fastest time) since most of them aren't THAT much interested in prime and they want to do only one category so they naturally choose the any% category. however further dedicated people like me aren't ONLY interested in the ntsc Any%/flagship category of course. besides, i personally find the ntsc Frigate escape category more interesting and more important and more of a flagship than the ntsc any% category, and the escape is also the true 'overall fastest time/flagship'.

[quote="SuperSkeetBro"]also why arent more people commenting? i worked so hard to get here! :( i know most the videos are prolly way too long but i figured more people would have watched the flaahgra fight.[/quote]

i know how that feels.. sorry. i do understand you. but i think it would be a good idea to just keep going and not care about what people think. and you shouldn't let your motivation being brought down by the careless attitude of (some/most?) people. most important is that you're satisfied with it. besides there's still a handful of caring people. the reason why the ntsc any% (SS/seg) category got more runs/players than any of the other categories is because most people of course are only interested in the metroid prime ntsc flagship (Any%/overall fastest time) since most of them aren't THAT much interested in prime and they want to do only one category so they naturally choose the any% category. however further dedicated people like me aren't ONLY interested in the ntsc Any%/flagship category of course. besides, i personally find the ntsc Frigate escape category more interesting and more important and more of a flagship than the ntsc any% category, and the escape is also the true 'overall fastest time/flagship'.

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2014-08-13 09:05:50 am

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Real men play with the tv off. Audio cues are for pussies.

lol. that gave me a laugh. i think this is what would define a true god/godlike being, since god is all knowing he doesn't need to see or to hear the game. so yes god could make a perfect run with the tv off XD

Daryoshi

2014-08-13 09:18:13 am

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lol. that gave me a laugh. i think this is what would define a true god/godlike being, since god is all knowing he doesn't need to see or to hear the game. so yes god could make a perfect run with the tv off XD

yeah kinda agree on that but this is especially weird to read from you sicne you once wrote "science is the only religion I NOW want to believe in" or something like that. WTF, seriously...

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PersonX: 2014-08-13 09:25:56 am

2014-08-13 09:22:36 am

i meant 'God' in terms of what we (mankind) call that higher power which has created the universe and of whom we know nothing about.
i still don't believe in organized man-made religions, that's right, but i believe that there is a higher power which triggered the big bang and which we (mankind) are used to call "God".

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2014-08-13 09:27:34 am

especially when seeing what's actually happening in Iraq currently, i feel ashamed of myself for every single day i called myself "muslim"...

Daryoshi

2014-08-13 10:36:07 am

loving low%

ah okay thanks for explaining

I agree on what you were saying about attitude of "only any% is interesting". I don't really like the fact that those who don't understand anything about how you can play this game (sequence break & speedrun & low% & glitches, etc.) only get to see some runs on YouTube that have thousands of views. Only those few people on m2k2 and just a small amount even of those people actually care about things like you and I do. But you're right; moral "help"/ advice/ hell even critc is very important: If T3 and StefanvanDijke hadn't responded to my post after my 1st 21% SS attempt that got Game Over at Subchamber 4 against Metroid Prime, I would probably not have continued attempting 21% SS. Which would mean Metroid177 wouldn't have been inspired by my videos/ my 21% SS route. Which would mean that in the last 24 hours, there wouldn't have been achieved one very particular great achievement... ;-)

SuperSkeetBro

2014-08-13 03:36:17 pm

daryoshi-was that last sentence refering to me? cause technically it happened like 4 days ago haha. also in terms of multiple types of run, my first challenge run was a no space boots MAX% run. I wanted to see how many pickups i could get without spaceboots. i got 78% before reaching that evil geothermal core for the plasma beam. Technically 2 more missles are possible with it but they are super hard. I also started a 22% run but only got to the powerbombs (18%). and now years later im creating my own category blindvisor :) when im done do you think anyone will attempt it?

personx- Do not let others actions reflect your own character. If someone else let other muslims be a reflection of your character they'd be called racist. Dont be self-racist bro! :) also im kinda in your boat with the whole god thing. dont beleive in god just the possibility of one. if there is one i dont think any of our religions have it right and he may not even really be that directly involved with out existence, like he created the universe but let it go on autopilot and it created us. anyways thats getting offtopic to blind folded runs haha.

daryoshi-was that last sentence refering to me? cause technically it happened like 4 days ago haha. also in terms of multiple types of run, my first challenge run was a no space boots MAX% run. I wanted to see how many pickups i could get without spaceboots. i got 78% before reaching that evil geothermal core for the plasma beam. Technically 2 more missles are possible with it but they are super hard. I also started a 22% run but only got to the powerbombs (18%). and now years later im creating my own category blindvisor :) when im done do you think anyone will attempt it?

personx- Do not let others actions reflect your own character. If someone else let other muslims be a reflection of your character they'd be called racist. Dont be self-racist bro! :) also im kinda in your boat with the whole god thing. dont beleive in god just the possibility of one. if there is one i dont think any of our religions have it right and he may not even really be that directly involved with out existence, like he created the universe but let it go on autopilot and it created us. anyways thats getting offtopic to blind folded runs haha.

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SuperSkeetBro: 2014-08-20 06:34:29 am

2014-08-20 06:29:52 am

Well i sat down to plan out the next small segment tonight but instead decided to plan ahead and see whatwas in store for mewith the end of the game. Im pretty sure im gonna need to do the glitch to trap the fission metroids in the other room in order for me to make the climb uninterrupted. One at the door at the bottom and the other in the missle recharge room. I discovered something else out about this glitch. The metroid can still respawn but are invisible and dont aggro but you can take damage if you bump into them. If anyone knows this glitch very well and why it behaves this way let me know cause need as much control as possible for this.

As for prime i discovered some audio cues i didnt think id get. I can determine what weapon prime is vulnerable to by the sound from taking damage from her beamshot. Powerbeam kinda fizzles, wavebeam sounds electric and you hear your hud recover at the end, icebeam makes that icy sound and plasma beam sound slightly different from powerbeam. While shooting im just dashing back and forth and holding backwards using supermissle, wavebust, and icespreader when i know which to use. Won use flamethrower case it sucks up too many missle without homing in llike wavebuster.

One other thing i noticed is the two kinds of missles she fires. One has a distinct jetlike sound and the other dooes not. I noticed the ladder would only be used in ice or plasma modes. The jet sounding missles would SOMETImES be used once When primee was white or red but was not typical. This can further help me identify primes vulnerabilities.

As for the second phase of the fight. I will just listen for combat locks in each visor til i hear it. Once i hear the sound that metroid makkes when it creates a phazon pool and metroids i will walk forward til i hear hypermode engage. It sounds kindalike whenyouswitch outaa scan mode. Then kill the metroid then aim at prime. Repeat til dead. Having thought of any evasive tactics yet to keep me safe but i figure most of this battle will just be hoping k can dish out damage faster than receiving it.

Well i sat down to plan out the next small segment tonight but instead decided to plan ahead and see whatwas in store for mewith the end of the game. Im pretty sure im gonna need to do the glitch to trap  the fission metroids in the other room in order for me to make the climb uninterrupted. One at the door at the bottom and the other in the missle recharge room. I discovered something else out about this glitch. The metroid can still respawn but are invisible and dont aggro but you can take damage if  you bump into them. If anyone knows  this glitch very well and why it behaves this way let me know cause need as much control as possible for this.

As for prime i discovered some audio cues i didnt think id get. I can determine what weapon prime is vulnerable to by the sound from taking damage from her beamshot. Powerbeam kinda fizzles, wavebeam sounds electric and you hear your hud recover at the end, icebeam makes that icy sound and plasma beam sound slightly different from powerbeam. While shooting im just dashing back and forth and holding backwards using supermissle, wavebust, and icespreader when i know which to use. Won use flamethrower case it sucks up too many missle without homing in llike wavebuster.

One other thing i noticed is the two kinds of missles she fires. One has a distinct jetlike sound and the other dooes not. I noticed the ladder would only be used in ice or plasma modes. The jet sounding missles would SOMETImES be used once When primee was white or red but was not typical. This can further help me identify primes vulnerabilities.

As for the second phase of the fight. I will just listen for combat locks in each visor til i hear it. Once i hear the sound that metroid makkes when it creates a phazon pool and metroids i will walk forward til i hear hypermode engage. It sounds kindalike whenyouswitch outaa scan mode. Then kill the metroid then aim at prime. Repeat til dead. Having thought of any evasive tactics yet to keep me safe but i figure most of this battle will just be hoping k can dish out damage faster than receiving it.

Daryoshi

2014-08-20 08:20:58 am

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Interesting info!! I'm not 100% sure if it will be easier to put away the metroids first; you could perhaps make it easier by just using up SOME of your power bombs.
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daryoshi-was that last sentence refering to me? cause technically it happened like 4 days ago haha.

oh sorry, no. I meant Metroid177's 21% SS playthrough (9:18 IGT) which was the first ever and back then it was the only one on top of that) 21% SS completion.

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StefanvanDijke: 2014-08-22 04:26:10 am

2014-08-22 04:25:42 am

I guess you will sort of take the speedrun route + spider ball + grapple beam.

Also one thing im fearing is the power bomb maze aiwebs_016

. How you're gonna do it??

you might want to introduce a trump card there so you could have one person in the room who can see the screen and give directions or something...

Quietus

2014-08-22 07:08:27 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I guess refilling on all possible health, then trying the old stick-to-one-wall technique could work if bombs are laid constantly to destroy the puddle parts. It's still gonna be a drain on health.

SuperSkeetBro

2014-08-22 06:42:03 pm

Haha no way am i gona get verbal cue at that point. Pretty sure iv decided not even at bosses. Im not worried about the maze. I may actually attempt the infinite speed powerbomb sequence break very soon. In which case i wouldnt need to do the maze til i hve alot more energy tanks or even at all. And if not then it still shouldnt be too hard. Hopefully ill hve plenty of energy to just run into the walls and take damage.

Also aside from the powerball sequence break and maybe grapple once i reach phazon mines naturally, i think im prolly gona do the natural route from here on out. Most of the sequence breaks tricks wont pay off too well in terms of difficulty exchange so it may not be worth it.

As for infinite speed, arent there certain sound effects that are slower or take a long time to morph and unmorph after the first time! This could be used to determine if i triggered the glitch. Doesnt matter that the hud is glitched out since im blind anyways, so long as i can still DO everything.

Haha no way am i gona get verbal cue at that point. Pretty sure iv decided not even at bosses. Im not worried about the maze. I may actually attempt the infinite speed powerbomb sequence break very soon. In which case i wouldnt need to do the maze til i hve alot more energy tanks or even at all. And if not then it still shouldnt be too hard. Hopefully ill hve plenty of energy to just run into the walls and take damage.

Also aside from the powerball sequence break and maybe grapple once i reach phazon mines naturally, i think im prolly gona do the natural route from here on out. Most of the sequence breaks tricks wont pay off too well in terms of difficulty exchange so it may not be worth it.

As for infinite speed, arent there certain sound effects that are slower or take a long time to morph and unmorph after the first time! This could be used to determine if i triggered the glitch. Doesnt matter that the hud is glitched out since im blind anyways, so long as i can still DO everything.

Littlenino

2014-08-23 08:44:33 am

You will definitely need to do the Power Bomb maze at some point because one of the artifacts (Warrior) isn't obtainable until after getting them. The trigger to break the Phazon Elite's tube with a power bomb just outright doesn't exist until after you get the Main Power Bombs, so it's just a matter of deciding whether you want to do it sooner or later.

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SuperSkeetBro: 2014-08-23 11:02:34 pm

2014-08-23 11:01:30 pm

oh ok thanks littlenino. depending on how difficult it is I may save it for later when I have more energy tanks, but I have a feeling it wont be necessary.

so I just picked up the artifact of nature and the missles in the triclops pit (not in the secret room accessible from the triclops pit) bringin my % to 25 and my time to 9:28! it actually was easier than I thought it would be even though I get stuck during some of the easier parts resulting in a 29 minute segment. UUGG! I didn't use the invisibly platforms. Instead first I blow up the pillar revealing the missle, then I walk straight ahead til I reach a nook in the back of the room, turn around scan the missle, double jump right to get to a higher spot on the wall, scan again, jump forward to collect the missle. Then I backtracked to save from the same savestation.

Not sure if im gonna pick up the missle in the secret room that you have to morphball underneath the floor with the triclops. At least not right now anyways. I may try on my way BACK through the magmoor mines from phendrana since its easier to reach from the phendrana savestation. If I could avoid it entirely I would and is on my list of possible missles (if ANY) to avoid even til the end of the game. But I most likely will eventually need ALL the missles for Ridley and Prime so I may as well get it early since this one wont be that easier later with more energy/upgrades. Iono yet. but for now my next segment is just getting through magmoor mines to phendrana no pickups. ill get the energy tank in magmoor just before the phendrana elevator on the segment after that.

oh ok thanks littlenino. depending on how difficult it is I may save it for later when I have more energy tanks, but I have a feeling it wont be necessary.

so I just picked up the artifact of nature and the missles in the triclops pit (not in the secret room accessible from the triclops pit) bringin my % to 25 and my time to 9:28! it actually was easier than I thought it would be even though I get stuck during some of the easier parts resulting in a 29 minute segment. UUGG! I didn't use the invisibly platforms. Instead  first I blow up the pillar revealing the missle, then I walk straight ahead til I reach a nook in the back of the room, turn around scan the missle, double jump right to get to a higher spot on the wall, scan again, jump forward to collect the missle. Then I backtracked to save from the same savestation.

Not sure if im gonna pick up the missle in the secret room that you have to morphball underneath the floor with the triclops. At least not right now anyways. I may try on my way BACK through the magmoor mines from phendrana since its easier to reach from the phendrana savestation. If I could avoid it entirely I would and is on my list of possible missles (if ANY) to avoid even til the end of the game. But I most likely will eventually need ALL the missles for Ridley and Prime so I may as well get it early since this one wont be that easier later with more energy/upgrades. Iono yet. but for now my next segment is just getting through magmoor mines to phendrana no pickups. ill get the energy tank in magmoor just before the phendrana elevator on the segment after that.

Yoko99

2014-08-23 11:25:07 pm

Quote from SuperSkeetBro:

also why arent more people commenting? i worked so hard to get here! :( i know most the videos are prolly way too long but i figured more people would have watched the flaahgra fight.

Yeah, what Daryoshi said. I haven't commented or anything but I am following this. I think many people may be simply amused by it at first, but it quickly becomes impressive to see just how committed you are and how far you've gotten. So yeah, I say keep doing it; keep giving us updates on here. This may not be generating all the buzz you've hoped for right now, but keep at it, and interest will rise you'll see

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SuperSkeetBro: 2014-08-26 09:59:17 pm

2014-08-26 09:58:36 pm

Part 23a and 23b are up. The artifact of nature and the triclops pit missle segment. Almost made it to phendrana last night but an accidental combat lock on the wrong puffer messed me up. Trying again tonight.