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arkarian
2016-02-13 07:22:35 pm
red chamber dream
sounds like they've learned from our best!
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:22:39 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Oh, they're more like us than I thought! Guess we infected yall, sorry about that.
DJGrenola
2016-02-13 07:22:40 pm
there's no doubt in my mind that there's a time and a place for right wing politics, if you have a genuine national crisis, they're usually the ones who have the necessary conviction to sort it out
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:23:41 pm
red chamber dream
i completely agree

conservative views have a lot of value in some cases, the problem here is that "conservative" politicans are nutjobs
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:24:06 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Yeah the issue is they refuse to undo their 'fixes' when it's no longer needed.
tomatobob
tomatobob
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tomatobob: 2016-02-13 07:25:14 pm
2016-02-13 07:25:06 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Or are too willing to undo a left wing fix, see them dismantling FDR's programs that got us out of the great depression.

Just scrap all of it, it's probably fine.
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:25:43 pm
red chamber dream
yeah the whole giving up rights to be protected issue really saddens me

because i think most americans, from both parties, don't mind
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:26:19 pm
red chamber dream
even though it's literally against the constitution
tomatobob
tomatobob
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tomatobob: 2016-02-13 07:27:21 pm
2016-02-13 07:27:12 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Democrats failing to kill the Patriot act back when they had the best chance they will likely ever get was pretty damning.
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:27:36 pm
red chamber dream
yeah that pissed me off

there is a reason i'm not a democrat either
DJGrenola
2016-02-13 07:27:49 pm
patriot act was a big fuckup, even I can see that :(
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:28:05 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
60 of them in the senate and nothing.
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:28:11 pm
red chamber dream
you can just replace "patriot act" with "bush"
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:28:21 pm
red chamber dream
permanently imo fucked the usa
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:28:58 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Amusingly such a large government overreach was accomplished by people from the arty that claims to want less of that!
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:29:08 pm
red chamber dream
right?
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:29:44 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY HEALTHCARE they scream as the NSA taps their phone.
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:30:06 pm
red chamber dream
republicans hate government except when it comes to the military or taking away citizens' rights, and i'm not exaggerating here

could be wrong but that sounds like fascism to me
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:31:10 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Hey yall lets spend absurd amounts of money on SPACE LASERS! Also we're spending too much money, stupid Democrats! You have us in DEBT!
Toozin
2016-02-13 07:31:48 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Republicans hate the government when it can't make them money.
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:31:57 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Now say what you will about Fascism but the trains ran on time!
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:32:14 pm
red chamber dream
it does have some positive qualities
DJGrenola
2016-02-13 07:32:24 pm
the opposition to obamacare seemed so bizarre to me, didn't even seem like it offered very much

I understand there's a weird philosophical argument about how if the state controls your healthcare then they control you, but I was pretty weirded out by some of the backlash
Toozin
2016-02-13 07:32:44 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
I think it's actually a myth that Stalin kept the trains running on time. That's like the one thing he had too.
arkarian
arkarian
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arkarian: 2016-02-13 07:33:31 pm
2016-02-13 07:33:20 pm
red chamber dream
yeah well, that's middle america for you

i think it's a fear of the government instilled in kids by their parents or something