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arkarian
2016-02-13 06:55:58 pm
red chamber dream
but they're pretending they're not, because they're in the pockets of lobbyists for rich corporations and the people who run them

that's all you really need to know
Toozin
2016-02-13 06:56:08 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
We need to Make America Great Again.
tomatobob
2016-02-13 06:56:34 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from DJGrenola:
if I didn't know better I'd say you had a few issues with how your great nation is being run

A couple!
arkarian
2016-02-13 06:56:46 pm
red chamber dream
and our middle class is full of fucking idiots who won't do anything about it because they don't understand anything, or don't care
arkarian
2016-02-13 06:57:24 pm
red chamber dream
and i guess the low class too which is basically the same thing these days
DJGrenola
2016-02-13 06:58:26 pm
well political apathy affects just about everyone who's a bit too contented I'm afraid, that's not an American thing

so who's running what? obvs the president is a democrat, are the other branches pubs right now?
tomatobob
2016-02-13 06:58:39 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
To an extent there isn't really anything they can do.

I mean once the supreme court says a multinational corporation is as much a person as you are all you can really do is shrug and laugh.
arkarian
2016-02-13 06:59:46 pm
red chamber dream
for the past years the pubs have controlled congress afaik

the supreme court i think is even now, if scalia is dead

would be so great if another could get another nomination in
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:00:29 pm
red chamber dream
basically the only time anything changes in the us is when one party has the presidency and both houses of congress
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:01:19 pm
red chamber dream
and even then republicans try bullshit like raising voting thesholds, so now you really need a gasp, supermajority
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:01:43 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
The Legislature is currently Republican, though to be fair it was about as useless when the Democrats literally owned the Senate because Democrats aren't really all that different from Republicans after a point.
Toozin
2016-02-13 07:02:08 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Republicans are allergic to change, and Democrats are allergic to confrontation. That's our system in a nutshell.
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:02:19 pm
red chamber dream
yeah it's true, i mean they're both beholden to corporations which is why i don't particularly care for h. clinton
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:02:57 pm
red chamber dream
would still be fine voting for her over any of the republican candidates though
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:03:33 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
The fact that voting often comes down to who we think is less bad is telling.
Toozin
2016-02-13 07:03:45 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Every candidate is a pile of garbage except for probably Bernie Sanders. Ron Paul seemed alright-ish but he dropped out.
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:04:07 pm
red chamber dream
i think a lot of countries have that problem too, but here it sucks because you only have two choices, realistically
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:04:40 pm
red chamber dream
americans love choice, except when it actually matters
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:06:22 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Or if it involves fetuses!
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:06:31 pm
red chamber dream
oh man oh man i'm so happy scalia's dead

what a fucking scumbag waste of oxygen
DJGrenola
2016-02-13 07:06:53 pm
funny how those famous checks and balances basically seem to mean now nobody can ever actually do anything
DJGrenola
2016-02-13 07:07:14 pm
and by funny I mean not funny
arkarian
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arkarian: 2016-02-13 07:08:23 pm
2016-02-13 07:07:32 pm
red chamber dream
i think it's a good thing to some extent

but lately it hasn't been working very well
arkarian
2016-02-13 07:08:13 pm
red chamber dream
ideally you'd have legislatures full of reasonable people who can make compromises, and that has happened in the past
tomatobob
2016-02-13 07:08:48 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
It works when the people making decisions aren't insane. The problem is to get votes as a Republican you basically have to be at this point.