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Firenukes777: 2019-06-04 08:12:43 am
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ah ok, yeah that's a classic philosophical question. i argue only the brain matters, and really it's just the information in the brain
I think 'you' is your mind (brain).  The parts of your body belong to you.  When someone becomes a mindless person due to a brain injury, we say that they're gone, and that we miss them, but their body is clearly still there.
I think your genes are what makes you "you", honestly. They're pretty much the blueprint for your brain.
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Firenukes777: 2019-06-04 08:12:41 am
Quote from Idkbutlike2:
I think your genes are what makes you "you", honestly. They're pretty much the blueprint for your brain.


I think our personalities are more the product of nurture than of nature.  Some traits are inherent from genes, but we're mostly shaped by our experiences imo.
Yeah, but without the biological makeup to serve as a basis for that development, you can't go through that nurture in the first place.
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I think 'you' is your mind (brain).  The parts of your body belong to you.  When someone becomes a mindless person due to a brain injury, we say that they're gone, and that we miss them, but their body is clearly still there.

yeah, the tragic thing is that we still keep their bodies "alive" for as long as possible. what a waste.
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ryu: 2016-02-01 04:12:51 pm
Wtf ark some people are making they're living by keeping those corpses alive wtf are u thinking >:(
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Idkbutlike2: 2016-02-01 04:13:58 pm
The problem with letting them die is that you basically end up killing a person without their consent... and that leads to all kind of ethical quagmires in all cases but combat.
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like opium said, that's not the person anymore. it's just their body. maybe we need a better way to tell if the person is really alive anymore, but afaik that's pretty settled
"letting them die' sounds like we stopped taking care of them, which isn't the same as killing someone without their consent.  To me it depends on quality of life, and whether or not the person can even have a thought that's organized enough to be considered as consent.  If they're truly a vegetable, I say it's an act of mercy to euthanize the body.
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yeah and wtf is so wrong with "letting someone die" anyway

death isn't bad, it's natural
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keeping someone alive when their body is actively trying to die is worse imo
If you let someone starve then that's kind of cruel.  It's better to shoot the poor bastard in the head.
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now that i disagree with

unless they ask you to lol
I'm talking about someone that isn't mentally capable of forming a question at all, so they can't ask you either way.
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i dunno, using the gun is introducing intent which is a whole other thing
Even cattle and dogs are afforded the courtesy of being put down.  If a person is gone mentally, then a quick painless death to their body is merciful. Starvation is a slow, painful, ugly death.  Even if their mind is gone to the point where they have no intelligence, it's still kind of sick to let the pain happen to their body.
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arkarian: 2016-02-01 04:47:32 pm
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i'm rather confused

Quote from Opium:
If you let someone starve then that's kind of cruel.  It's better to shoot the poor bastard in the head.

is the only thing i was responding to. you never mentioned that the starving person is brain dead ...
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Opium: 2016-02-01 04:51:41 pm
I was referring to vegetables that have to be taken care of.  That's what we were talking about when I wrote that post.  Not taking care of them = letting them starve.  Not to mention letting them sit in shitty diapers.
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oh gotcha. yeah they should definitely be euthanized in that case
Considering the shitty diapers, I would say the mercy isn't just for the vegetable.  It's for the rest of us, too.
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Opium: 2016-02-01 05:15:57 pm
Stupid coworker stories:  There are some people I work with that do not understand what 'Save As' means, no matter how many times you explain it to them.  This lady keeps insisting that 'save as' doesn't work because she keeps opening up a template, saving it as something else, then looking in the template folder and seeing the original file there.  I have explained it to her a million times in a million ways, and each time she feigns understanding, only to prove the next day that she still does not understand. 

This is the same woman who thinks the term 'read only' makes no sense because she insists that reading is all you can do with the file anyways. 
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haha

i really don't understand why some people have so much trouble with tech. probably never will ... it just totally escapes me