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red chamber dream
ya i use turbotax too. honestly it takes me half an hour and isn't a big deal at all lol
red chamber dream
just hoping i owe like 100-200, that would be perfect
I have never owed, thank god.  I have always entered a 1 on my W-4 resulting in overpayment of income tax, and I've never had a reportable chunk of other income that I needed to pay taxes on. 
red chamber dream
i do 0 cuz i'd rather owe than get a return
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Opium: 2016-01-26 12:35:22 pm
My mom is gonna owe thousands because she had to withdraw on her retirement early to help my little brother.  He's just got sentenced to 3 years in prison, but before his trial she bailed him out so he could spend xmas with his son, and she hired an attorney.  He was looking at up to 10 years, so I guess the attorney helped?
red chamber dream
i mean, yeah? that's what attorneys are for. you should always hire one if you're going to trial ...
Well yeah, I didn't mean it that way.

He's FUCKED.  Seriously fucked.  They say he should get paroled after 18 mos, but the financial hole is going to be outrageous. He has to pay huge amounts to the state every month for years after he gets out.  My mom spelled it all out for me and it just sounds impossible.  No wonder people can't get out of the system. I guess the moral of the story is: DON'T GET IN TROUBLE.  I'm so grateful that I managed to get away with everything.  I can't tell you how many times I had a 20 year sentence in my purse. 
He got his third DUI.  In Texas.  If you've ever been to Texas, there's signs everywhere warning people that the penalties for DUI are no joke there.  I just can't believe he did it THREE times.
red chamber dream
duis are bad everywhere but yeah i imagine texas is pretty harsh. my brother got one a couple years back and only recently truly recovered from it, in terms of finances
how does it work, do they give you a fine which you have to pay off in installments?
red chamber dream
i didn't discuss it too much with him but in my brother's case it was mostly the court + laywer fees that cost so much

the fine itself is big but not astronomical iirc
ah yeah ok
red chamber dream
plus you lose your license for 6 months or whatever, which is a huge pain for anyone who has a job

you can see why the system fails poor people
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Opium: 2016-01-26 01:04:14 pm
I think with his first one he got a fine that was in the thousands, had to take some classes, and then had to pay hundreds of dollars a month for probation (on top of the fine).  I think the second one was just multiplying everything from the first one.  The third one is mandatory prison time.

One of the signs you see on all the highways is 'DUI - You can't afford it'
I would think it fails anyone who can't carpool to work.
yeah once you go under it's hard to pull yourself back up

it's hard to know what you'd replace it with though, you can't let crimes go unpunished, that just won't fly politically
red chamber dream
Quote from Idkbutlike2:
I would think it fails anyone who can't carpool to work.

if you're reasonably well-off there's options, can take an uber for example
red chamber dream
but yeah the probation does suck for anyone i imagine
losing your licence is way less crippling here because most cities have half decent public transport systems
nobody really wants to use them but they're good enough if you have to use them
I just don't know how anyone of average means could possibly keep up with it all, and if you get too far behind you just go back to jail.  It's like there's no light at the end of the tunnel, hence no incentive to get on the right path.  I don't know what to think of it.
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yeah once you go under it's hard to pull yourself back up

it's hard to know what you'd replace it with though, you can't let crimes go unpunished, that just won't fly politically

it's a big problem, especially in the us. like in most countries you can just take public transport if you lose your license. if you live anywhere remotely rural here you're fucked
red chamber dream
well, we do have uber almost everywhere now it seems, but that's relatively expensive
oh and he lost his house, his business, and his truck over this.
Well, that's what happens when the population clusters around the coasts. You get this big old lump of nothing in the midwest.