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Me neither.  I thought we were talking about amendments?
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Opium: 2015-05-07 03:22:02 pm
Opium: 2015-05-07 03:12:11 pm
it would be an ADDITION to the constitution, not a deletion.  Has anything ever been removed?
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Opium: 2015-05-07 03:14:23 pm
Opium: 2015-05-07 03:13:38 pm
I think the word I'm looking for is CLAUSE, which is like an amendment to an amendment
red chamber dream
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well right lol, you can only amend the constitution, not remove amendments altogether. obviously i was talking about amending the constitution to undo the fourth amendment. i've never heard anyone claim we should do that
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also it is kinda supposed to be set in stone and never change. that was the idea behind the republic. that's what a constitution is. like it or not, it's not a "living document" that we're supposed to amend any time we want
There's me being literal again.  It wouldn't 'undo' it though, it would make it more specific or include an exemption or special condition.
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arkarian: 2015-05-07 03:43:24 pm
red chamber dream
not necessarily. here's the 21st amendment:

Quote:
Amendment XXI

Section 1.

The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.


there's a bit more, but you can totally repeal an entire amendment just like that. you can put anything you want in an amendment lol
Well the one in question certainly couldn't be repealed.
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sure it could. but like i said, it's nearly impossible to amend the constitution, so that would never happen
If it's difficult to add a small change to the amendment then it would be damn near impossible to repeal the whole thing.  Nobody would ever go for not having any privacy at all under any condition.
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that is literally what i'm saying. it's nearly impossible
Repealing and adding a clause are two different things.  One is undeniably far more difficult than the other when it comes to this particular amendment.  That's all I'm saying.
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Some buddies wanted to grab lunch and hang out so we got some taco bell. An hour later I just feel miserable and my somtomach hates me. Is this what happens when you grow up? To be fair I haven't eaten taco bell in like a month.
One shall stand, one shall ball.
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I'm conflicted about that stuff.  I personally don't care if they have a record of all my phone activity, and there's so much legal red tape in place that govt can't get ahead of the bad guys.

The funny part is the phone tapping and other Patriot Act nonsense hasn't actually helped stay ahead of anything. So it gets to be illegal and pointless! Don't worry though, courts don't actually care much about the fourth amendment so there are plenty of legal ways to illegally search innocent people!
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Some buddies wanted to grab lunch and hang out so we got some taco bell. An hour later I just feel miserable and my somtomach hates me. Is this what happens when you grow up? To be fair I haven't eaten taco bell in like a month.

I was even younger than you are now when my stomach started getting weak. That's getting old, yeah.
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Some buddies wanted to grab lunch and hang out so we got some taco bell. An hour later I just feel miserable and my somtomach hates me. Is this what happens when you grow up? To be fair I haven't eaten taco bell in like a month.


no, it's what happens when you eat garbage
That might actually be the case. I guess if you haven't eaten junk food in a long while and aren't used to it that's what happens
I like turtles.
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Quote from Opium:
I'm conflicted about that stuff.  I personally don't care if they have a record of all my phone activity, and there's so much legal red tape in place that govt can't get ahead of the bad guys.

The funny part is the phone tapping and other Patriot Act nonsense hasn't actually helped stay ahead of anything. So it gets to be illegal and pointless! Don't worry though, courts don't actually care much about the fourth amendment so there are plenty of legal ways to illegally search innocent people!

I think the fundamental issue here is that it's impossible to be "ahead" of bad guys because by definition you don't know they're bad guys until their bad actions are in the past tense - i.e., ahead of us, rather than the other way around.
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@grenola haha

to be fair, as i get older i definitely notice the effects of junk food way more than i used to. otoh that could just be because i don't eat it very often anymore ....
it's weird, I've noticed no change at all in my digestion as I've got older
What about food preferences?
yeah I definitely have a preference for better quality stuff, but I think part of that is because I've got better at cooking so my standards have just naturally gone up
it's a nuisance actually because when I do eat out (which is pretty rare nowadays) I often sit there thinking yeah I could have made something better than this
red chamber dream
it probably is just because i don't eat junk food as often as i used to, then'

definitely if i ate taco bell now, i would not have a good night
red chamber dream
gotta have that gut flora