social topic

2012-02-25 06:09:56 pm

red chamber dream

the brain is programmed on a very high level, but it's still programmed, it's just a very advanced machine

2012-02-25 06:10:14 pm

What probably separates humans from animals in terms of learned behaviors is the fact that humans can, and are, taught a huge variety of ways to react to different situations. You can teach a human that the proper thing to do when you have a baby is to bury it alive, or you can teach them that they should nurture and love their baby. I don't think birds, or dogs, or horses, etc are being 'taught' anything about it. They may remember how they were treated when they were babies, but I doubt it.

arkarian

2012-02-25 06:11:43 pm

red chamber dream

i'd agree with that, but also one thing about humans is that can spontaneously decide not to do what they've been taught

Opium

2012-02-25 06:11:52 pm

Perhaps if a tittie comes into a babys face, it is an instinct to nurse it? Maybe human instincts only appear in babies. After that, we're all just crazy.

arkarian

2012-02-25 06:11:57 pm

red chamber dream

my experience with dogs makes me think they're not like that

Idkbutlike2

2012-02-25 06:12:14 pm

Quote from arkarian:

is that really true though? i mean doesn't everything that goes in the mind have to do with the physical body, more specifically the brain?

The cool thing about the human brain is that it's able to stimulate ITSELF rather than necessarily relying on external stimuli. I'd say that lies out of the physical body, despite being directly related to normal chemical reactions in it.

arkarian

2012-02-25 06:12:39 pm

red chamber dream

i dunno opium, when i see a titty the first thing i want to do is suck it

arkarian

2012-02-25 06:13:17 pm

red chamber dream

idkbutlike2: you think the brain lies outside the body? you're crazier than i thought :P

Opium

2012-02-25 06:13:28 pm

lol well I don't, and I don't think instincts are gender specific

arkarian

2012-02-25 06:15:12 pm

red chamber dream

you said humans don't have them at all i thought

Idkbutlike2

2012-02-25 06:16:01 pm

Quote from arkarian:

idkbutlike2: you think the brain lies outside the body? you're crazier than i thought :P

All I'm saying is that the conscious brain doesn't always care about the state of the rest of the body, or even parts of itself. Maybe saying that it lies outside of the physical body was poor wording... bah, screw it.

TheGreenManalishi

2012-02-25 06:16:39 pm

I think you mean it's a metaphysical thing?

arkarian

2012-02-25 06:17:08 pm

red chamber dream

nah i know what you mean idkbutlike2, you're talking about the mind

i'm saying the mind is not a metaphysical thing, it's part of the body

Idkbutlike2

2012-02-25 06:17:28 pm

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

I think you mean it's a metaphysical thing?

Yeah, basically.

tomatobob

2012-02-25 06:17:34 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Opium:

They may remember how they were treated when they were babies, but I doubt it.

I think animals do remember more than they're credit for. But being simpler creatures they result from them tends to be becoming more aggressive or docile and submissive, less viable for mating purposes. So they don't really get to pass that on to later generations as often. It's all processed on a lower level than we do it but I think it is there to an extent. Animals are shaped by their experiences just as much as we are, we just have the ability to use it for better or far worse purposes.