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tomatobob

2011-08-11 02:04:46 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

It's a really bad idea to eat Taco Bell often. Their food is basically poison, delicious poison.

Poision Envy

2011-08-11 02:10:07 am

Club 27 Goals

It was also probably a bad idea to order a baja blast and drink it all two hours before trying to fall asleep

Poision Envy

2011-08-11 02:11:00 am

Club 27 Goals

threw in some more avatars, going to bed for reals this time

DJGrenola

2011-08-11 04:58:08 am

Quote from Poision Envy:

so apparently theres some riots going on in london or something.

can anyone post a tl'dr?

yeah, a copper shot a civilian and that was the flashpoint. don't get me wrong, a minority of the people involved in the riots have genuine political grievances about things like police brutality, poverty, unemployment, lack of access to education and what have you.

the majority though is composed of a bunch of bored, stupid, idle kids with a misplaced sense of entitlement who listen to too much gangsta nonsense and have unfortunately figured out how to use twitter. most of those taking part have no coherent political agenda but are nevertheless seizing the opportunity to go and steal as many televisions as possible.

Quietus

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Quietus: 2011-08-11 05:58:45 am

2011-08-11 05:58:11 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Quote from DJGrenola:

the majority though is composed of a bunch of bored, stupid, idle kids with a misplaced sense of entitlement who listen to too much gangsta nonsense and have unfortunately figured out how to use twitter. most of those taking part have no coherent political agenda but are nevertheless seizing the opportunity to go and steal as many televisions as possible.

...because they realised the police were stretched dealing with the legit incidents.

I can see it coming already: The residents that are staging fight-backs will end up hurting somebody, and there'll be a big TV news event covering how they had the right to defend their homes, but they're being slammed by the law for providing vigilante justice. Wait and see.

arkarian

2011-08-11 08:24:56 am

red chamber dream

"i don't have a television and other people do." what more of a reason do you need??

Quietus

2011-08-11 08:46:42 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Yeah! Screw those moral thingamajigs! Twisted Evil

Opium

2011-08-11 09:50:09 am

Quote from tomatobob:

It's a really bad idea to eat Taco Bell often. Their food is basically poison, delicious poison.

Delicious? Really? *barf*

Opium

2011-08-11 09:58:09 am

What does everyone think of the idea of removing anonymity from the tinterweb?

arkarian

2011-08-11 10:03:32 am

red chamber dream

i eat at t.bell easily 10x more than any other restaurant.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,779446,00.html

Quietus

2011-08-11 10:27:15 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

That's pretty funny.

Also, I loves me some Taco Bell. I with they'd expand it over here fully.

Opium: Removing anonymity would be be a bit rubbish, in my opinion. I understand the reasoning behind it - essentially crime - but a lot of people use it for escapism, as they don't have to be their normal selves, and I think a lot of them feel more outgoing and confident in their online persona. If everybody knew who everybody was, it'd lose a lot of the charm and appeal of that anonymity. Also, being anonymous also shields people from things like (directed) racism, which is impossible if you don't know who somebody is.

Poision Envy

2011-08-11 11:05:00 am

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Quote from Opium:

What does everyone think of the idea of removing anonymity from the tinterweb?

Terribad idea. If it wasn't for the fact that I have to leave in ten minutes I would type out a very nice lengthy post about why that would be a terrible idea, not just because I'm biased either.

Poision Envy

2011-08-11 11:09:09 am

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Quote from Quietus:

essentially crime

god help us if some teenagers are sharing music and movies!

You might be talking about CP related crimes though, in which case yeah those are actually bad, but removing anonymity from the internet to try and crack down on the pedos would be similar to stores putting GPS under our skin to try and track down the people that shoplift. In the end it wouldn't work and it'd just end up fucking over the people who aren't even remotely involved in it to begin with.

Quietus

2011-08-11 11:22:50 am

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Yes, I was referring to more serious stuff like the whole 'paedophile playground' thing.

Opium

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Opium: 2011-08-11 11:47:15 am

2011-08-11 11:46:58 am

There are already plenty of situations where anonymity online is not allowed. When you sign in to do your online banking, there are security measures in place which (for all their good efforts) ensure that the person at the keyboard is who they say they are. The reasons for this are obvious, but those reasons can be extended to social sites, forums, etc to apply social consequences for bad behavior, thwart crime/pedos, etc. It should be left up to the private sector whether or not they wish for their site to have their users remain anonymous or not. The idea of the govt assigning ID to internet users is horrible and will never happen. But I don't think it's a bad idea for sites to make ID a requirement. Then the market decides, just like it does on so many other issues. FB has a policy against fake identities, but if they wanted to take it a step further to actually make it difficult for someone to operate under a fake identity then that's their choice, and it's not a terrible idea. As long as it's up to the site whether or not to require identity then it's all good. If they do it that way, then there will always be plenty of places for trolls to fling feces under cover of anonymity and plenty of places for people to go who wish to avoid said trolls/pedos/etc.

There are already plenty of situations where anonymity online is not allowed. When you sign in to do your online banking, there are security measures in place which (for all their good efforts) ensure that the person at the keyboard is who they say they are.  The reasons for this are obvious, but those reasons can be extended to social sites, forums, etc to apply social consequences for bad behavior, thwart crime/pedos, etc.  It should be left up to the private sector whether or not they wish for their site to have their users remain anonymous or not.  The idea of the govt assigning ID to internet users is horrible and will never happen. But I don't think it's a bad idea for sites to make ID a requirement. Then the market decides, just like it does on so many other issues.  FB has a policy against fake identities, but if they wanted to take it a step further to actually make it difficult for someone to operate under a fake identity then that's their choice, and it's not a terrible idea.  As long as it's up to the site whether or not to require identity then it's all good.  If they do it that way, then there will always be plenty of places for trolls to fling feces under cover of anonymity and plenty of places for people to go who wish to avoid said trolls/pedos/etc.

arkarian

2011-08-11 11:49:15 am

red chamber dream

right. that's how it's always been. why would it change?

Opium

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2011-08-11 11:50:20 am

There's a debate going on about whether or not anonymity should be removed from the internet somehow.

Here's a good commentary about it. I love ZJ.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZJemptv#p/u/0/Zef2P9Qjcx8