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well if you have enough money you can get anything you want.
or just smoking some weed would be cool too.
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Gaius_4: 2010-09-15 10:33:02 am
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Yeah, the only problem that came up was how he was going to get it if he was on his death bed. Maybe if he had some REALLY good friends to go get some for him or something.

It's said the pineal gland releases some chemical Very Happy moments before death.  I wonder how close of a friend put that in there? pwuh
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I wonder how close of a friend put that in there? pwuh

Wait, what?

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or just smoking some weed would be cool too.

I'm sure he already does smoke weed.
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Opium: 2010-09-15 03:52:07 am
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Something tells me you've been visiting some church that tells you what to think.

My parents taught me how to speak, as well as when to speak, how to dress myself, what to do and what not to do, etc.  What if we were all abandoned / left to fend for ourselves at a certain age that was too young? 

My point is; were never too old to get wise instruction.  In fact, we should demand it for our own sake/s.  That's why God...  er, let me say that's why our parents (should) love us enough to let us know how to live, and what choices to make so we will have a happy life...  and, when it's our time to go: a happier death.

ETA: Opium, I really hope your friend makes it...  with at least a desire to go on.  I realize she's in a lot of pain.  And I do not mean this to be insulting in any way...  But the best witnesses, the one's with the most powerful testimonies are those that God saves and redeems from sin and death.  May God help her.


When I spoke of a church (or anything, really) telling you what to think, I of course was not talking about being taught basics on how to live/love/be happy, etc.  It has more to do with the ideas which are taught to people with no basis in fact or any real value other than 'just because' or 'because the bible says so'.  The biggest atrocities in human history were because of these dogmatic teachings and it freaks me out how few people actually question what they are told. If the pope instructed the hundreds of millions of catholics in the world to do something, then they would do it - even if it was unimaginably horrible.

I'm sure that my friend or anyone else in her situation would agree with your ideals, but it's only in hindsight that it is even clear.  We don't all have nurturing parents, in fact hers are the ones that got her hooked on drugs in the first place.  By giving her heroin, she was less fussy when they prostituted her out to pedophiles so they could get money to buy more heroin. 
theory of knowledge sounds like a cool class.
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If the pope instructed the hundreds of millions of catholics in the world to do something, then they would do it - even if it was unimaginably horrible.

Hahahaha

You have met approximately zero Catholics.
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Opium: 2010-09-15 05:26:00 am
I have met plenty who call themselves catholics, but then again I have met many who call themselves christian. I personally don't see the point of calling yourself either if that's not what you really are.  It's as if they're afraid of NOT calling themselves that, which is stupid.
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If the pope instructed the hundreds of millions of catholics in the world to do something, then they would do it - even if it was unimaginably horrible.

Hahahaha

You have met approximately zero Catholics.

I get this all the time. "Bill, you're catholic, do you hate contraception?" Yes because I want hundreds of kids like that Monty Python sketch. I only call myself catholic out of habit and to get the crazy made-up-their-own-denomination christians to treat me like Lucifer instead of preaching their Islamophobic yet oddly liberal bullshit at me.
Well....do you hate contraception?  Do you use it?  Do you believe that you can go to hell for using it?  If not, then why call yourself catholic?
I was never raised to hate abortion and contraception and all that, no catholics I've ever met are really like that, but I went to catholic school for a good while, enough for it to have an affect on me.
I only call myself catholic because my grandparents, who I really respect and admire, call themselves catholic, and they're borderline agnostic. They've got a modern view on all the issues we cathos get flack for, priest celibacy, contraception, you name it. It's a community thing, more than anything. I don't take it seriously, if someone said to me "you're not catholic" I'd say "ok, sure". It's not a big deal to me.
I just think it's weird to call yourself catholic if you do not share the vatican's views. What's the point?  They sound they're no more catholic than any other non-catholic.  I guess all it takes is to SAY you are catholic, all the rules are pointless.
Like I said, it's a community thing that's kind of carried over from my mom's generation. All her family was catholic, everyone they socialised with was catholic, the schools they went to were catholic.
Yeah I heard you before, I just think it makes no sense.  It's like if I hung around a bunch of people who called themselves black, should I start calling myself black, even though I'm clearly NOT black?  It's too bizarre.
That's a little different. When you go to catholic school, get confirmed, go to catholic churches at easter and christmas, you're in that community, whether you follow the rulebook or not.
You don't go to St. Francis' School for Black Kids, do you? You go to the Roman Catholic school.
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Opium: 2010-09-15 11:42:11 am
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Opium: 2010-09-15 11:38:01 am
OK, that I can understand, but it just brings about another question.  Why remain within that community if you don't follow the rulebook?  Seems to me that following that rulebook is what makes a catholic a catholic and NOT following that rulebook is what makes someone NOT a catholic.

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You don't go to St. Francis' School for Black Kids, do you? You go to the Roman Catholic school.


But if I DID go to a school for black kids, does that make me black??
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theory of knowledge sounds like a cool class.


Yeah it really is. I wish I got a chance to do it one year, but my schedule never worked out to let me put it in.
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OK, that I can understand, but it just brings about another question.  Why remain within that community if you don't follow the rulebook?  Seems to me that following that rulebook is what makes a catholic a catholic and NOT following that rulebook is what makes someone NOT a catholic.

No one really follows the rulebook, so it isn't an issue.

I'm actually not the best person to explain this, as I'm not keen on the whole god thing personally, but that's an argument that's been done to death.
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Opium: 2010-09-15 11:42:44 am
I've no intention of starting a god debate, because my argument could be made by a christian as well as an atheist.

I dont mean to pick on catholics, because its christianity in general that makes no sense to me.  Why call yourselves christian if you hold the following contradiction:

1-I believe the bible is the word of god
2-I believe that the majority of the information of the bible is false

At what point do you just stop saying that you are a christian?
The Bible was written by humans. I wish more 'Christians' understood that. God wouldn't leave so many holes in his arguments.
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Opium: 2010-09-15 11:45:54 am
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The Bible was written by humans. I wish more 'Christians' understood that. God wouldn't leave so many holes in his arguments.


You are the first christian I have ever heard deny that the bible is the 'word of god'.

Sorry, dont mean to put words in your mouth.  You are the first christian/catholic whatver that I have heard describe the bible in that way.
It isn't the word of god. No one can actually believe that their deity would contradict themselves. Some people wrote something that contradicted other people, the two writings were compiled into the same book and everyone thinks that was God saying that?

The other thing is that early christians, say the first hundred years or so after the ascension, expected Jesus to come back any minute. So they wrote rules for short-term preparation for the Second Coming (hence the whole 'sex is bad' thing) but it's taken a lot longer than they expected.

And I wasn't offended by what you said or anything. We cool.
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The common belief is that the gospels were also chosen out of a larger number, as their stories pretty much agreed on most points.  Could you imagine where it'd be now if they had included them all?
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If the pope instructed the hundreds of millions of catholics in the world to do something, then they would do it - even if it was unimaginably horrible.

maybe 1000 years ago.