<- 1  -   of 3455 ->
^^
vv
List results:
Search options:
Use \ before commas in usernames
windy
2010-09-12 09:15:27 pm
gyrotechnic lollipop
wow, i did not know that. extremely cool you got a response, too. hope it works out.
Opium
2010-09-12 09:17:43 pm
The saddest part of all is that you have kids who go into scouting with respect for one another, then after being exposed to the controversy they become enemies.  Is that really what this thing is supposed to be about?  Why cant those old fucktards see that? 
Gamma_Metroid
Gamma_Metroid
Edit history:
Gamma_Metroid: 2010-09-12 09:19:22 pm
2010-09-12 09:18:14 pm
Quote from Opium:
They cite all of their reasoning in scripture and in ridiculous ideas that homosexuality is 'taught' to young people, and they also advocate that gay scout leaders are more likely to be pedophiles.  Completely backward, ignorant retards. 

Where did you hear that?  I have never heard any of it, and I am in the Boy Scouts.

EDIT: Bluh.  Those last two posts didn't show up until I reloaded the page.
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:18:55 pm
red chamber dream
are you gay or anti-christian?
Gamma_Metroid
2010-09-12 09:23:01 pm
From what I know, they aren't exactly anti gay or atheist, they just don't allow them to join.  I'm sure there's far worse discrimination elsewhere.  And no I'm not either of those.
Opium
2010-09-12 09:23:21 pm
Quote from Gamma_Metroid:
Quote from Opium:
They cite all of their reasoning in scripture and in ridiculous ideas that homosexuality is 'taught' to young people, and they also advocate that gay scout leaders are more likely to be pedophiles.  Completely backward, ignorant retards. 

Where did you hear that?  I have never heard any of it, and I am in the Boy Scouts.

EDIT: Bluh.  Those last two posts didn't show up until I reloaded the page.


There are many many pages on the interweb about it, but here's a basic outline on wikipedia.  I havent read this, and it IS a wiki, so.....well, you know.  Anyways:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America_membership_controversies
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:24:33 pm
red chamber dream
how is not letting a gay person join a group that has nothing to do with sexual orientation anything but anti-homosexual?
Opium
2010-09-12 09:25:44 pm
Quote from Gamma_Metroid:
From what I know, they aren't exactly anti gay or atheist, they just don't allow them to join.  I'm sure there's far worse discrimination elsewhere.  And no I'm not either of those.


That message of intolerance is quite damaging to impressionable young people, especially coming from an organization that is supposed to have the reputation of being the epitome of good values.  So by saying 'they just don't allow them to join.' it sounds far less harmful than it fundamentally is.
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:26:37 pm
red chamber dream
i mean if it were called The Straight Boy Scouts of America and their activities focused on watching heterosexual porn or something, then of course they have a reason for not allowing gay people to join
Idkbutlike2
2010-09-12 09:26:44 pm
Young people don't even understand intolerance to begin with. It's adults that are more edgy about it.
Poision Envy
2010-09-12 09:27:50 pm
Club 27 Goals
wow I didn't know that about the boy scouts. Thanks for letting me know.
Opium
2010-09-12 09:28:04 pm
Quote from Idkbutlike2:
Young people don't even understand intolerance to begin with.


Well apparently BSA is trying to change that.
Idkbutlike2
2010-09-12 09:31:59 pm
Quote from Opium:
Quote from Idkbutlike2:
Young people don't even understand intolerance to begin with.


Well apparently BSA is trying to change that.

What, are they saying "don't like non-religious people and gays" right in their faces? 'Cause I really doubt that.
Gamma_Metroid
2010-09-12 09:32:55 pm
Heck no.  They don't talk about it at all.

Also,
"the Supreme Court of the United States has affirmed that as a private organization, the BSA can set its own membership standards."
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:33:31 pm
red chamber dream
sure it can. but that doesn't mean opium has to agree with them lol.
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:33:50 pm
red chamber dream
the argument here isn't about legality it's about bigotry
Gamma_Metroid
2010-09-12 09:34:46 pm
"Spirituality has been an integral part of the international Scouting movement since its inception."

"Religious organizations host/sponsor over 60% of the approximately 123,000 Scouting units in the United States and use the Scouting program as part of their youth ministration."

"In reciting the Scout Oath, Scouts promise to be morally straight and to do their duty to God; the Scout Law holds that a Scout is clean and reverent."
windy
2010-09-12 09:35:13 pm
gyrotechnic lollipop
i hope the girl scouts don't have similar beliefs? i don't want to have to stop buying their cookies.
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:35:22 pm
red chamber dream
yeah doesn't that make you want to punch someone lol
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:36:02 pm
red chamber dream
Girl Scout policy states that the word "God" may be interpreted depending on individual spiritual beliefs. When reciting the Girl Scout Promise, "God" may be substituted with the word dictated by those beliefs.
windy
2010-09-12 09:36:29 pm
gyrotechnic lollipop
i'm cool with that as long as they don't hate on the gays.
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:36:35 pm
red chamber dream
As a private organization, Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. respects the values and beliefs of each of its members and does not intrude into personal matters. Therefore, there are no membership policies on sexual preference. However, Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. has firm standards relating to the appropriate conduct of adult volunteers and staff. The Girl Scout organization does not condone or permit sexual displays of any sort by its members during Girl Scout activities, nor does it permit the advocacy or promotion of a personal lifestyle or sexual preference. These are private matters for girls and their families to address.
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:36:51 pm
red chamber dream
yeah sounds very reasonable to me
windy
2010-09-12 09:36:56 pm
gyrotechnic lollipop
GIRL SCOUTS > BOY SCOUTS
arkarian
2010-09-12 09:37:31 pm
red chamber dream
PUMPERS BETTER THAN TUMBLERS