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arkarian
2010-09-11 06:50:00 pm
red chamber dream
ok lol before you say any of that you have to define what sin is. and of course for anyone to take you seriously they have to agree with your definition of sin. so don't do that if you want to be taken seriously.
Gaius_4
2010-09-11 06:50:31 pm
Okay then.  What's your definition?
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:50:42 pm
red chamber dream
i mean i don't think pornography is a sin but christians do. so trying to come up with any sort of agreement on that is useless.
Poision Envy
2010-09-11 06:50:51 pm
Club 27 Goals
Sin is in the eye of the beholder.
072
2010-09-11 06:51:16 pm
coral to complement blue
Yeah, Ark... for some reason I always thought of agnosticism as holding no bias. Thanks for clearing that up anyway, although you were a bit harsh about it. >_>
Idkbutlike2
2010-09-11 06:51:19 pm
Sinning is just doing bad things. It doesn't get more specific than that.
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:51:38 pm
red chamber dream
i don't believe in sin. sin implies divine justice which i don't believe exists.
Poision Envy
Poision Envy
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Poision Envy: 2010-09-11 06:51:57 pm
2010-09-11 06:51:47 pm
Club 27 Goals
@ idkbutlike2 Yeah, but what is bad to you might be good to someone else.
Idkbutlike2
2010-09-11 06:52:24 pm
Quote from Poision Envy:
@ idkbutlike2 Yeah, but what is bad to you might be good to someone else.

That's why I said "it doesn't get more specific than that."
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:52:29 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from 072:
Yeah, Ark... for some reason I always thought of agnosticism as holding no bias. Thanks for clearing that up anyway, although you were a bit harsh about it. >_>

lol i didn't mean it that way. you're cool because you hang out in the anime thread. :P
Gaius_4
2010-09-11 06:52:54 pm
ok lol before you say any of that you have to define what divine justice is. and of course for anyone to take you seriously they have to agree with your definition of divine justice. so don't do that if you want to be taken seriously.

teach

Razz
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:53:27 pm
red chamber dream
should be very obvious what i mean by divine justice. a god who has created laws for man to obey.
Poision Envy
Poision Envy
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Poision Envy: 2010-09-11 06:53:52 pm
2010-09-11 06:53:34 pm
Club 27 Goals
divine justice would be what the god would consider the right thing, right?

Fine ark, go ahead and say it before me.
tomatobob
2010-09-11 06:53:57 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from Poision Envy:
I think a god created us just to watch humans argue and debate over the existence of a god.

If I was a god I'd totally do that.

This is probably the only thing people will ever completely agree on.
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:54:25 pm
red chamber dream
they would? i don't believe a god created us. unless you just meant the last part, lol.
072
2010-09-11 06:54:51 pm
coral to complement blue
Quote from arkarian:
Quote from 072:
Yeah, Ark... for some reason I always thought of agnosticism as holding no bias. Thanks for clearing that up anyway, although you were a bit harsh about it. >_>

lol i didn't mean it that way. you're cool because you hang out in the anime thread. :P

rofl. On the other hand, I'm glad people point out when I say something stupid so I don't continue to look like an idiot in the future. I don't gain anything from people just letting it slide. :P
Poision Envy
2010-09-11 06:55:02 pm
Club 27 Goals
okay how about, "IF a god created us [...]"
Gaius_4
2010-09-11 06:55:14 pm
So you say you would have to agree with me what "sin" is but you don't even believe in sin.  pretty daft ark.  pretty daft.
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:55:42 pm
red chamber dream
well it's all semantics when you get down to it. i hear people define agnostic as "you don't know for sure" all the time which i guess is good enough. it's a little annoying though because it doesn't really tell you anything.
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:56:17 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from Gaius_4:
So you say you would have to agree with me what "sin" is but you don't even believe in sin.  pretty daft ark.  pretty daft.

that's my point. trying to use sin as an argument with a person who doesn't believe in sin is daft indeed.
072
2010-09-11 06:56:54 pm
coral to complement blue
I think that's just like with the word "irony" -- people misuse it so often that it gets associated with an entirely different concept.
Idkbutlike2
2010-09-11 06:56:57 pm
But either way, humans wouldn't have a point in living if there wasn't "sin" or "bad stuff" or whatever you want to call it.
arkarian
2010-09-11 06:57:13 pm
red chamber dream
er, why's that now?
072
2010-09-11 06:57:13 pm
coral to complement blue
And that's what happened with me, here.
Gaius_4
2010-09-11 06:57:15 pm
@ Ark.  Well, would you say stealing is a "sin"?...  or something that is "wrong"?