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Idkbutlike2: 2010-06-30 04:16:33 pm

2010-06-30 04:15:46 pm

Quote from arkarian:

the show isn't about a murder case; it's about people.

Gee, that's specific.

Quote from ryu:

Monster is awesome

too bad it's too long and kinda drags on here and there to warrant a rewatch :'(

Okay, that's not a good sign. Especially after seeing how slow-paced the series is already.

072

2010-06-30 04:34:01 pm

coral to complement blue

You don't want a "specific" outline of the plot; it's a suspense after all. All I can say is that you're not able to tell what the show is like from the first few episodes.

Toozin

2010-06-30 04:39:33 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I survived Eclipse.

From a purely objective, technical standpoint, the movie actually had some good things going for it. The CGI on the wolves (I hesitate to call them werewolves, because they're people that just turn into giant wolves instead of, you know, werewolves) was pretty great, and anytime vampires did something besides twinkle in the sunlight it looked pretty convincing. When they're moving around and fighting, they don't pull that bullshit where they move at normal speed, then suddenly switch to superspeed for one little thing, then go back to normal speed; they're at full speed the whole time. There's a sequence early on in the movie where a group of vampires are chasing another vampire through a forest that's extremely well done. If they cut out all the Bella/Edward/Jacob bullshit, it would be a pretty entertaining vampire vs. werewolf flick.

Of course, it would also be about 20 minutes long because the movie isn't actually about anything as interesting as vampires fighting werewolves, it's about fucking bullshit romance crap that nearly made me gag. Thank god I brought my DS.

I survived Eclipse.

From a purely objective, technical standpoint, the movie actually had some good things going for it. The CGI on the wolves (I hesitate to call them werewolves, because they're people that just turn into giant wolves instead of, you know, werewolves) was pretty great, and anytime vampires did something besides twinkle in the sunlight it looked pretty convincing. When they're moving around and fighting, they don't pull that bullshit where they move at normal speed, then suddenly switch to superspeed for one little thing, then go back to normal speed; they're at full speed the whole time. There's a sequence early on in the movie where a group of vampires are chasing another vampire through a forest that's extremely well done. If they cut out all the Bella/Edward/Jacob bullshit, it would be a pretty entertaining vampire vs. werewolf flick.

Of course, it would also be about 20 minutes long because the movie isn't actually about anything as interesting as vampires fighting werewolves, it's about fucking bullshit romance crap that nearly made me gag. Thank god I brought my DS.

windy

2010-06-30 04:49:59 pm

gyrotechnic lollipop

@ Gaius_4: now you know :^Db

and props to you for taking care of your lawn.

Opium

2010-06-30 04:50:07 pm

I started watching all of the Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes last week. I'm about 6 episodes into season 2. I love that show, it's freakin' awesome.

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-30 04:53:07 pm

Meh, never been a big fan of anything having to do with Star Trek. Way too much of that "alien anthropology" nonsense involved.

Idkbutlike2

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Idkbutlike2: 2010-06-30 04:55:14 pm

2010-06-30 04:55:03 pm

Quote from 072:

You don't want a "specific" outline of the plot; it's a suspense after all. All I can say is that you're not able to tell what the show is like from the first few episodes.

Then what the hell is supposed to give you the motive to watch the whole thing?

ryu

2010-06-30 04:59:29 pm

JESUS CHRIST TOOZ

WHY DID YOU WATCH THAT

TheGreenManalishi

2010-06-30 05:48:37 pm

Quote from Opium:

I started watching all of the Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes last week. I'm about 6 episodes into season 2. I love that show, it's freakin' awesome.

Quote from Opium:

I love that show, it's freakin' awesome.

Best thing to ever grace a TV screen.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-06-30 05:49:15 pm

Quote from Toozin:

Thank god I brought my DS.

Did you play Castlevania to remind of you of cool vampires?

Opium

2010-06-30 06:05:28 pm

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Meh, never been a big fan of anything having to do with Star Trek. Way too much of that "alien anthropology" nonsense involved.

Yes, very unrealistic if you think of it along those lines. Try to forget about that and realize the limitations of a television show, not the limitations of human intelligence and imagination, for those are the true limits they are writing the show under.

Idkbutlike2

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Idkbutlike2: 2010-06-30 06:32:08 pm

Idkbutlike2: 2010-06-30 06:31:15 pm

2010-06-30 06:30:56 pm

I don't look for realism in a sci-fi series. It's just that I always found ST and ST:TNG episodes to be quite boring and repetitive. There are so many episodes where the crew encounters some group of aliens that have some kind of bizarre problem that they're too butthurt to solve for themselves. The crew tries to help them, and usually ends up causing more trouble in the process. In the end, the problem gets solved in some cheesy fashion, and the crew warp off, acting as if nothing happened.

072

2010-06-30 06:47:53 pm

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Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Quote from 072:

You don't want a "specific" outline of the plot; it's a suspense after all. All I can say is that you're not able to tell what the show is like from the first few episodes.

Then what the hell is supposed to give you the motive to watch the whole thing?

If what you've seen so far hasn't interested you at all, then you definitely don't have to watch the rest. I can only urge you to reconsider I guess. ;)

tomatobob

2010-06-30 06:58:41 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

I don't look for realism in a sci-fi series. It's just that I always found ST and ST:TNG episodes to be quite boring and repetitive. There are so many episodes where the crew encounters some group of aliens that have some kind of bizarre problem that they're too butthurt to solve for themselves. The crew tries to help them, and usually ends up causing more trouble in the process. In the end, the problem gets solved in some cheesy fashion, and the crew warp off, acting as if nothing happened.

Well the thing with Star Trek, from what I remember anyway, is that it's more about magical technology that can do anything and using it to go on goofy space adventures. Which is admittedly what any reasonable person would do if given magic space travel technology. I can't imagine taking it seriously because you know that no matter what happens, somehow they'll reverse polarity on the whatever the fuck technobabblemajig and save the day. You're really meant to just sit back and enjoy the ride, unless you are a super nerd and try to learn how every little thing on the ship works or something.

Though if your major issue is the whole, "Whoop, problem solved, let's get outta here and never speak of this again." thing, you might enjoy the Battlestar Galactica reboot SyFy did. Pretty much everything that happened was permanent. That poor ship. Sad

[quote="Idkbutlike2"]I don't look for realism in a sci-fi series. It's just that I always found ST and ST:TNG episodes to be quite boring and repetitive. There are so many episodes where the crew encounters some group of aliens that have some kind of bizarre problem that they're too butthurt to solve for themselves. The crew tries to help them, and usually ends up causing more trouble in the process. In the end, the problem gets solved in some cheesy fashion, and the crew warp off, acting as if nothing happened. [/quote]
Well the thing with Star Trek, from what I remember anyway, is that it's more about magical technology that can do anything and using it to go on goofy space adventures. Which is admittedly what any reasonable person would do if given magic space travel technology. I can't imagine taking it seriously because you know that no matter what happens, somehow they'll reverse polarity on the whatever the fuck technobabblemajig and save the day. You're really meant to just sit back and enjoy the ride, unless you are a super nerd and try to learn how every little thing on the ship works or something.

Though if your major issue is the whole, "Whoop, problem solved, let's get outta here and never speak of this again." thing, you might enjoy the Battlestar Galactica reboot SyFy did. Pretty much everything that happened was permanent. That poor ship. :sad:

arkarian

2010-06-30 07:11:56 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Quote from 072:

You don't want a "specific" outline of the plot; it's a suspense after all. All I can say is that you're not able to tell what the show is like from the first few episodes.

Then what the hell is supposed to give you the motive to watch the whole thing?

it's extraordinary compelling. basically you're watching these people attempting to get what they want most as they decide what they're willing to do to get it.
but it's true that it's incredibly slow so i guess you have to be into that sort of thing. definitely not an action series or anything like that.

Idkbutlike2

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Idkbutlike2: 2010-06-30 07:23:27 pm

2010-06-30 07:22:04 pm

Quote from taigabob:

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

I don't look for realism in a sci-fi series. It's just that I always found ST and ST:TNG episodes to be quite boring and repetitive. There are so many episodes where the crew encounters some group of aliens that have some kind of bizarre problem that they're too butthurt to solve for themselves. The crew tries to help them, and usually ends up causing more trouble in the process. In the end, the problem gets solved in some cheesy fashion, and the crew warp off, acting as if nothing happened.

Well the thing with Star Trek, from what I remember anyway, is that it's more about magical technology that can do anything and using it to go on goofy space adventures. Which is admittedly what any reasonable person would do if given magic space travel technology. I can't imagine taking it seriously because you know that no matter what happens, somehow they'll reverse polarity on the whatever the fuck technobabblemajig and save the day. You're really meant to just sit back and enjoy the ride, unless you are a super nerd and try to learn how every little thing on the ship works or something.

Though if your major issue is the whole, "Whoop, problem solved, let's get outta here and never speak of this again." thing, you might enjoy the Battlestar Galactica reboot SyFy did. Pretty much everything that happened was permanent. That poor ship. Sad

Again, I don't really care about realism, or how much sensibility there is from the scientific aspects of that show. I don't like the writing and episode structure of Star Trek, that's all. And I have heard some good things about Battlestar Galactica. Maybe I should check it out one of these days. Wink

[quote="taigabob"][quote="Idkbutlike2"]I don't look for realism in a sci-fi series. It's just that I always found ST and ST:TNG episodes to be quite boring and repetitive. There are so many episodes where the crew encounters some group of aliens that have some kind of bizarre problem that they're too butthurt to solve for themselves. The crew tries to help them, and usually ends up causing more trouble in the process. In the end, the problem gets solved in some cheesy fashion, and the crew warp off, acting as if nothing happened. [/quote]
Well the thing with Star Trek, from what I remember anyway, is that it's more about magical technology that can do anything and using it to go on goofy space adventures. Which is admittedly what any reasonable person would do if given magic space travel technology. I can't imagine taking it seriously because you know that no matter what happens, somehow they'll reverse polarity on the whatever the fuck technobabblemajig and save the day. You're really meant to just sit back and enjoy the ride, unless you are a super nerd and try to learn how every little thing on the ship works or something.

Though if your major issue is the whole, "Whoop, problem solved, let's get outta here and never speak of this again." thing, you might enjoy the Battlestar Galactica reboot SyFy did. Pretty much everything that happened was permanent. That poor ship. :sad:[/quote]Again, I don't really care about realism, or how much sensibility there is from the scientific aspects of that show. I don't like the writing and episode structure of Star Trek, that's all. And I have heard some good things about Battlestar Galactica. Maybe I should check it out one of these days. :wink:

windy

2010-06-30 07:25:13 pm

gyrotechnic lollipop

Starz cancels 'Gravity' and 'Party Down'

bad news for fork?

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-30 07:36:10 pm

Quote from 072:

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Quote from 072:

You don't want a "specific" outline of the plot; it's a suspense after all. All I can say is that you're not able to tell what the show is like from the first few episodes.

Then what the hell is supposed to give you the motive to watch the whole thing?

If what you've seen so far hasn't interested you at all, then you definitely don't have to watch the rest. I can only urge you to reconsider I guess. ;)

Just out of curiosity, does this series exemplify a case of a Taming of the Shrew induction?

tomatobob

2010-06-30 07:43:26 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

I don't like the writing and episode structure of Star Trek, that's all.

That's kinda what I was getting at, those things are very different in Galactica and might appeal to you more, it's more of a drama that happens to be set in space than pure sci-fi thing I guess. Star Trek was never really my thing either, kinda fun now and then but that's it. It's more of an alien/adventure of the week thing which only goes so far for me.

Toozin

2010-06-30 08:19:49 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

Quote from Toozin:

Thank god I brought my DS.

Did you play Castlevania to remind of you of cool vampires?

Order of Ecclesia, bitches.

Quote from ryu:

JESUS CHRIST TOOZ

WHY DID YOU WATCH THAT

My girlfriend's best friend roped us both into it.

072

2010-06-30 08:33:35 pm

coral to complement blue

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Just out of curiosity, does this series exemplify a case of a Taming of the Shrew induction?

Heh, no, I guess what I said might have been misleading... there's nothing like that as far as I know (I haven't read the play). The stuff before the "9 years later" is basically a traditional prologue but it is still very important to the 'core' plot, which starts to develop within the next few episodes.

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-30 08:42:13 pm

Right now, I'm getting the impression that most of Monster's plot is probably comprised of long conversations that are supposed to be dramatic and thought-provoking (which I personally consider boring).

072

2010-06-30 08:54:21 pm

coral to complement blue

It is intellectual, but not in an artsy-fartsy way. The drama is in the actual plot developments, and like Ark said, the narrative is very compelling. Of course, if you are only into fast-paced action series, then no, you aren't going to enjoy Monster.

Idkbutlike2

2010-06-30 09:11:29 pm

The setting and characters seem kind of boring though, so I don't think any intellect and drama could improve it. Well, I won't blame you guys for trying, but I don't have the interest of watching the rest of the series. Oh well...

arkarian

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arkarian: 2010-06-30 09:18:00 pm

2010-06-30 09:17:43 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from windy:

Starz cancels 'Gravity' and 'Party Down'

bad news for fork?

meh i sort of saw party down's cancellation coming. i've only seen the first season (which i loved) but apparently the lead character isn't even in the second season. lol. owell. ;(
yall should watch it though because it's really funny!