SO MUCH TO DESIGN

SABERinBLUE

2006-09-21 07:37:55 pm

Cook of the Sea

Creating new thread because I'm going to be doing some entirely new designs. First up:

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Nida

2006-09-21 07:52:29 pm

Love me some big-ass earrings. :3

(I'm assuming this is a prelim? Nothing needs fixing IMO; I just anticipate detail.)

SABERinBLUE

2006-09-21 07:59:17 pm

Cook of the Sea

Yeah. I also need to model the sweater (I have one to do it with, I just was being lazy) and finish designing the tattoos, decide what other affectations he might have, etc.

Chanoire

2006-09-21 08:02:47 pm

That's a really...feminine-seeming sweater to me, considering I used to wear one like that all the time in college. Just saying. No time to look closely at the pic otherwise, sorry.

Nida

2006-09-21 08:56:02 pm

Well, there's always cultural context, too. :3 I myself am pretty genderqueer when viewed in light of my age cohort and regional affiliation, and that's not counting the fact that I self-identify as omnigendered. I can guarantee that if I was wearing an off-the-shoulder pullover, I wouldn't bear it in a feminine way, no matter the chromosomal inclination.

nate

2006-09-21 09:09:32 pm

i love how nida has to be female to even know wtf that article of clothing is called, but then she can be masculine and break the rules on top of that. what a trip.

Yoshi348

2006-09-21 09:11:04 pm

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Ready and willing.

Man, with rough colorless sketches it's hard to tell if those are tatoos or bionic parts. Probably the former of course.

Can a sweater "defy gravity" like that? I don't end up looking at too many non-standard ways to wear clothes, so I dunno. It sounds like you just threw it on there anyway to develop later.

Chanoire

2006-09-21 09:49:54 pm

If it's stretchy around the top (and one isn't too skeletal), yeah. The one I used to wear had been once but was totally stretched out by the time it came to me so I usually just had it on one shoulder and off the other, since if I left it off both it ran a very strong risk of succumbing to gravity. Probably was okay when new.

I wonder what happened to it. I can't imagine I threw it away...

Nida

2006-09-21 11:04:40 pm

IIRC, the one-shoulder style was popular during the mid-'80s, whereas the more symmetrical no-shoulder style came into play in the late '90s with retro-punk.

And Nate, by "break the rules", do you mean that first reply I wrote? 'Cause I forgot if it was "kraid" or what, so I just figured I'd let the censor sort it out. Didn't realize the censor would be foiled by hyphens. :P

(I don't know if it's called an "off-the-shoulder pullover", BTW; rather, I figure that 90% of the time, only girls say "pullover", which automatically makes it sound correct. :3 )

nate

2006-09-22 12:00:02 am

i apologize for the confusion. with that phrase i was referring to "I can guarantee that if I was wearing an off-the-shoulder pullover, I wouldn't bear it in a feminine way [...]"

(being biologically female and not doing things in a feminine way is "breaking the rules," i suppose. bear in mind that i desire no credit for having created such rules.)

Nida

2006-09-22 12:05:15 am

My shoulders aren't all tiny and feminine. They have muscle caps, which combine with my untoned arms to result in an out-of-shape ten-year-old boy's upper body. My chest is none too large, either. In other words, I'm not built for womens' clothing. --;;

Actually, in the region between the neck and the pullover, I look a lot like the pic. (Decide for yourselves if I'm including tats/bionics in that assessment. :D )

arkarian

2006-09-22 12:21:10 am

red chamber dream

Also, "ass" is not a censored word at m2k2.

Nida

2006-09-22 12:23:13 am

Didn't it used to be?

Via analogue, por favor: what do "kraid" and "ridley" replace? I'm assuming one is a reference to an illegitimate child; I just can't remember which.

SABERinBLUE

2006-09-22 12:34:49 am

Cook of the Sea

Ark has a listy list. He will PM it to you.

Nida

2006-09-22 12:42:44 am

Back OT before I get smacked:

Now that I look, the sweater... I dunno; there's this big dynamic action right up until the sweater, and then the action stops. Even with a wacky design, the sweater will break the action, and there's no hope to pick it back up until at least mid-thigh, depending on what you want to do down there. Maybe a different cut?

SABERinBLUE

2006-09-22 01:13:45 am

Cook of the Sea

It would probably be best to draw the guy shirtless first and get the tattoos nailed down before deciding concretely on the sweater. The sweater was the first bit of inspiration though so it'll probably need to stay in in some form or other.

Chanoire

2006-09-22 02:01:59 am

Quote from Nida:

IIRC, the one-shoulder style was popular during the mid-'80s, whereas the more symmetrical no-shoulder style came into play in the late '90s with retro-punk.

How fortunate for me that I was wearing it in the early to mid-90s or so, so no one could accuse me of giving a flying fig about clothing fads. :P

Quote from Nida:

(I don't know if it's called an "off-the-shoulder pullover", BTW; rather, I figure that 90% of the time, only girls say "pullover", which automatically makes it sound correct. :3 )

I'd call it an off-shoulder sweater myself. Knitters make distinctions between cardigans and pullovers, of course, but generally unless that distinction is required they're simply called sweaters.

I remember reading an anecdote, which may or may not be true, about a carelessly translated movie in which a cop who had told a driver to pull over was subbed as asking the driver for a sweater.

I have issues as well, albeit different from yours, with fit of womens' clothing, but the thing that annoys me most consistently is that there are so few garments with useful pockets. I end up wearing jeans to work every day because almost anything else requires me to use an external pocket (i.e., purse) or find some way to sequester my keys in my pocketless clothing. I detest the former option and so I end up with key-shaped indentations hither and/or yon.

[quote="Nida"]IIRC, the one-shoulder style was popular during the mid-'80s, whereas the more symmetrical no-shoulder style came into play in the late '90s with retro-punk.[/quote]
How fortunate for me that I was wearing it in the early to mid-90s or so, so no one could accuse me of giving a flying fig about clothing fads. :P

[quote="Nida"](I don't know if it's called an "off-the-shoulder pullover", BTW; rather, I figure that 90% of the time, only girls say "pullover", which automatically makes it sound correct. :3 )[/quote]
I'd call it an off-shoulder sweater myself.  Knitters make distinctions between cardigans and pullovers, of course, but generally unless that distinction is required they're simply called sweaters.

I remember reading an anecdote, which may or may not be true, about a carelessly translated movie in which a cop who had told a driver to pull over was subbed as asking the driver for a sweater.

I have issues as well, albeit different from yours, with fit of womens' clothing, but the thing that annoys me most consistently is that there are so few garments with useful pockets.  I end up wearing jeans to work every day because almost anything else requires me to use an external pocket (i.e., purse) or find some way to sequester my keys in my pocketless clothing.  I detest the former option and so I end up with key-shaped indentations hither and/or yon.

SABERinBLUE

2006-09-26 12:53:17 am

Cook of the Sea

Not a new design, but I was slipping into not-drawing-anything land so I decided to crank one out. Interesting thing is, I drew it with the intention of having her thrusting her dataglove hand up into the air with the other arm sort of gracefully complementing it. As I was drawing it I decided I liked the thrust of what I had of the right shoulder better so I decided to make that the left shoulder. The scanned and horizontally flipped image is displayed; click it to see what I actually drew:

arkarian

2006-09-26 03:58:39 pm

red chamber dream

Looks just the same to me. >_>

Very cool, though.

nate

2006-09-26 04:00:49 pm

another quality critique from fork :D

arkarian

2006-09-26 04:03:11 pm

red chamber dream

Well, to be fair, I've been seeing this exact same chick over and over again. Chanoire seems to do a pretty good job with anatomy, so what else is really left, other than what I've already said about the character?

SABERinBLUE

2006-09-26 05:11:57 pm

Cook of the Sea

Yeah this is basically just me spinning my wheels here, trying to keep my edge. What's infuriating about this whole comic thing atm is that I *should* update and I really *want* to update but I *have* to design a ton more shit before I can justify doing that. And even though I really enjoy designing shit, it's just that there's so much of it to do. If I really want to do the next section right I'll need maybe 25-30 solid unique character designs. So it's easy to get deer-in-headlights about it and freeze up. When that happens, I draw another modus to keep me going.

nate

2006-09-26 06:41:04 pm

yeah, you'll do it though. just a matter of time.

mangadood

2006-09-26 08:27:04 pm

Too many fangirls to count

Another comic comes to mind.... *COUGHCONTRADICTIONCOUGH*

Anyhow, I love the progress, just keep it coming. >_> I actually decided to catch up on ps.

nate

2006-09-26 09:48:04 pm

look, saber, someone just compared contradiction to tpp with a straight face (as far as i can tell). :O