Single Segment 22% Hypermode speed run (spoilers)

2007-11-05 07:36:33 pm

kyupi+yakisoba=win

Im gonna catch you paraxade, i just finished a good attempt at single segment low% hyper. 3:38 with 17 deaths. As far as dvd recorders go some of them record better with different dvdr's. Like my dvd recorder records on dvd+R discs really well and my old one recorded better on dvd-R discs better. I don't really know the difference between the discs so im not sure why it makes a difference.

Aruki

2007-12-11 02:23:18 pm

it's been a while, so I just thought I'd post about my progress.

I've been trying to do attempts at this frequently; unfortunately the Olympus sucks, and I just can't seem to get through it without making mistakes that I feel like resetting over (those things include missing buttons on the ship, target shooting too slowly, missing BSJs, and missing too many shots on Berserker). :| so yeah, I'll have to figure out how to either consistently not make said mistakes or stop being such a perfectionist. Anyone else had problems with that, and if so did you come up with a solution? I don't think I have many problems with most of the rest of the game (other than the end), so I could probably get this done in the next month or two if I wasn't having so many problems there. :|

also, another question; other than SA, what's the best weapon to use against Gandrayda? None of them seem to do much damage, but I'm probably missing something, so I just thought I'd ask.

rekameohs

2007-12-11 06:19:55 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from Paraxade:

also, another question; other than SA, what's the best weapon to use against Gandrayda? None of them seem to do much damage, but I'm probably missing something, so I just thought I'd ask.

For the first little bit, SA is really one of the only things to do. Using anything else, it's almost impossible to get to the cutscene before she turns into the berserker using any other way, and the berserker takes forever to hurt. Hypermode might do it too, but since it's low%, I would try to avoid using it that early. After the cutscene where the roof comes off, SA'ing her becomes much harder, but once again, hypermode works here as well. You could probably use hyper here without too much hassle, as long as she doesn't turn into rundas, cause he takes a while, too. After the second cutscene (where she does the fist pump) and turns into samus, I found a good trick. She'll boost straight towards you, and while she does this, shoot a charge shot towards the ground, where she is going to be, and it will put her into the sweeping charge beam instantly. Now, you can SA her for some huge damage. In the final bit when she is in hypermode, using your hypermode is the best option, but single plasma shots work too. Don't do charge plasma, though, it sucks. If you need health for hypermode, shoot the disks she throws.

So not too much strategy and I have never done 22% hyper, but hopefully it is of some help. Oh and the Olympus seems to be like Ceres or the Space Pirate Frigate in that it is the opening section of the game, but is one of the hardest.

[quote="Paraxade"]
also, another question; other than SA, what's the best weapon to use against Gandrayda? None of them seem to do much damage, but I'm probably missing something, so I just thought I'd ask.
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For the first little bit, SA is really one of the only things to do. Using anything else, it's almost impossible to get to the cutscene before she turns into the berserker using any other way, and the berserker takes forever to hurt. Hypermode might do it too, but since it's low%, I would try to avoid using it that early. After the cutscene where the roof comes off, SA'ing her becomes much harder, but once again, hypermode works here as well. You could probably use hyper here without too much hassle, as long as she doesn't turn into rundas, cause he takes a while, too. After the second cutscene (where she does the fist pump) and turns into samus, I found a good trick. She'll boost straight towards you, and while she does this, shoot a charge shot towards the ground, where she is going to be, and it will put her into the sweeping charge beam instantly. Now, you can SA her for some huge damage. In the final bit when she is in hypermode, using your hypermode is the best option, but single plasma shots work too. Don't do charge plasma, though, it sucks. If you need health for hypermode, shoot the disks she throws.

So not too much strategy and I have never done 22% hyper, but hopefully it is of some help. Oh and the Olympus seems to be like Ceres or the Space Pirate Frigate in that it is the opening section of the game, but is one of the hardest.

jihnsius

2007-12-25 09:53:32 pm

What order (and which) items are collected in this run?

Aruki

2007-12-26 02:36:04 am

pretty much the same order as any other playthrough given the linearity of this game.

1. Missile Launcher
2. Energy Tank (Ventilation Shaft)
3. Grapple Lasso
4. PED Suit
5. Grapple Swing
6. Ice Missiles
7. Ship Missiles
8. Hyper Ball
9. Boost Ball
10. Plasma Beam
11. Screw Attack
12. Ship Grapple
13. Energy Cell (Xenoresearch B)
14. Seeker Missiles
15. Hyper Missiles
16. Energy Cell (Command Courtyard)
17. X-Ray Visor
18. Grapple Voltage
19. Spider Ball
20. Nova Beam
21. Hyper Grapple
22. Energy Cell (Docking Bay 5)

items skipped are two energy cells in Aurora Chamber and the Hazard Shield.

MASTER-88

2007-12-27 02:40:59 pm

Speedrunner

I really wonder how peoples can beat that under 10 deaths. laugh new

This looks amazing power player challenges. I just beat first real big boss (Mogenar) with normal mode 5 ET max and this took me almost 10 deaths. When you going in hyper mode it drain alot your energy. Energy tank per target. I think later boss fights requires more hyper mode than Mogenar.

I think this game low-% is different than other Primes. You need more than 0 ET max. At least 1 or more. 1 ET sounds bit impossible too.

I try beat this game first, probably after this i go try faster time or low-% normal intersted me. :D

Fano7

2007-12-27 03:53:10 pm

Every Bit Counts

You need one E-tank for Hyper Mode and theres no way to skip it, because it's in a tunnel. For a long time people though that a 22% Hyper was Impossible, but Paraxade proved it possible. He also proved it's possible to do a Single Segment 22% Hyper Mode speed run.

MASTER-88

2007-12-27 04:15:15 pm

Speedrunner

I see.

1et is absolutely what you need. You not can go in hyper mode if you have less than energy tank max. Wink

Yeah this must be hard. There must be lot cheap way beat hard boss battles. I remember Crastad beat hyper 22% SS run too his run includes more deaths than Paraxade.

Aruki

2007-12-27 04:54:06 pm

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For a long time people though that a 22% Hyper was Impossible

I don't recall anyone saying it was impossible.

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He also proved it's possible to do a Single Segment 22% Hyper Mode speed run.

well, yeah, if you can do 22% hyper then you can also do SS 22% hyper. there's no differences except no saving.

pretty sure kip finished a low% hyper before me anyway.

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There must be lot cheap way beat hard boss battles.

most of them aren't that hard after you've fought them a couple times. Mogenar is a great example of a boss like that.

MASTER-88

2007-12-28 07:15:14 am

Speedrunner

Hyper 22% SS required lot practice. I think near impossible savepoint run is still much easier. This game is almost 4 hours long without break.

I see you died almost 10 times your run. Run ingame timer when you died and continued your game previous checkpoint?

If ingame timer run. Segmented run is definitely faster if you avoid all deaths. But yeah if not it is technical same as SS run. Of course SS requires more skills.

Prime Hunter

2007-12-28 10:49:35 am

I don't think I could ever do a single segment run in any Metroid game. I'd never make it through alive because either I'd take a lot of damage to begin with due to now nervous I would be, or because of that make too many mistakes and find some way to mess myself up royally.

Which is why I am impressed easily when somebody says they can not only do a 22% hypermode run, but as a single segment on top of that.

Aruki

2007-12-28 02:29:35 pm

the game timer doesn't count the deaths.

arkarian

2007-12-28 06:32:20 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from MASTER-88:

Hyper 22% SS required lot practice. I think near impossible savepoint run is still much easier. This game is almost 4 hours long without break.

lol, that's what they said about Prime.

Also, even if deaths don't add to your time, it still looks best and is way more impressive if you don't die in your runs.

MASTER-88

2008-01-11 06:36:46 am

Speedrunner

I check your youtube page there is some cool 22% hyper mode videos, but no Phaaze video. :(

Are you planned put 22% Phaaze and last boss video in youtube?
I am curious see that. This must be so cool how you can beat phaaze and how you beat long last fight without getting any damage.

Aruki

Edit history:

Aruki: 2008-01-11 08:16:43 am

2008-01-11 08:13:36 am

kip made some vids a while ago, they were on his filefront. Skippy linked to some mirrors earlier in the topic. The strategies I use have a couple minor differences, but for the most part they're the same.

EDIT:

Quote from SkippyJr:

phaaze.avi [32.0 MB]
dark_samus.avi [34.9 MB]
aurora1.avi [31.7 MB]
aurora2.avi [8.2 MB]
I also still have his original 2 energy tank version if someone really wants. (I'll keep the links working for a month or so.)

It's been more than a month, but the links still work. :P

MASTER-88

2008-01-11 08:45:10 am

Speedrunner

Oh i see. There is little trouble.

I can hear music but i cannot watch video. :| Only music working my avi file, but video itself not. Weird.

Currently now i can watch videos flash or quicktime player only. :|
Probably i need wait flashplayer video. Hopefully it come somedays. Or i need new windows mediaplayer updates.

Aruki

2008-01-11 08:51:16 am

Try VLC.

MASTER-88

2008-01-15 03:31:18 pm

Speedrunner

Hopefully hyper 22% run come in SDA somedays in future. Hopefully it run is segmented because 4 hours long video is pretty long time watch in at one sitting.

I play my own hyper mode run, i think not speedrun. Of course i want collect all 14 energy tanks. Still there is couple hard places. And i really wonder how anybody can beat this only 1et max.

1: My Mogenar hyper mode fight took whole 22 minutes in game time to beat but i have all 5 ET max. I think this boss took easily 20 more minutes if you have only 1 ET max on hyper mode. I think there must be better way beat this.

2: Mining cannon is simple on hyper if you have more than 7 et max. This must be so hard only 1et max, near impossible dodge pirates attacks.
3: X-ray visor pillar ball room is almost impossible without ET imo. Took me some deaths even i have 14 ET max. It is extremely difficult time guess all balls locations without X-ray visor and pirates kill you really fast, almost instantly if you have only 1et. My best attempt i lose only 5 ET after 3 deaths.

4: Some pirate rooms you not can,t use hyper mode very much. One pirate took easily all your phazon metter.
5: Of course Phaaze is top my list. Most interesting place in the game this must be insanely hard only 1et hyper.
6: Both last boss. Aurora head must be fun because boss don,t drops energys and it is pretty long even Veteran mode. How much longer hyper mode battle is?

I am completed Echoes low-% hard mode run and normal mode 22% run in first prime. I think i never ever can beat hyper 22% run. Hyper 22% Corruption sounds like hardest low-% any metroid game history IMO.

Full credits Paraxade. This is totally awesome job. Hopefully full video come somedays. Hyper mode itself is hard as well. Low-% SS make this awesome.

Hopefully hyper 22% run come in SDA somedays in future. Hopefully it run is segmented because 4 hours long video is pretty long time watch in at one sitting.

I play my own hyper mode run, i think not speedrun. Of course i want collect all 14 energy tanks. Still there is couple hard places. And i really wonder how anybody can beat this only 1et max.

1: My Mogenar hyper mode fight took whole 22 minutes in game time to beat but i have all 5 ET max. I think this boss took easily 20 more minutes if you have only 1 ET max on hyper mode. I think there must be better way beat this.

2: Mining cannon is simple on hyper if you have more than 7 et max. This must be so hard only 1et max, near impossible dodge pirates attacks.
3: X-ray visor pillar ball room is almost impossible without ET imo. Took me some deaths even i have 14 ET max. It is extremely difficult time guess all balls locations without X-ray visor and pirates kill you really fast, almost instantly if you have only 1et. My best attempt i lose only 5 ET after 3 deaths.

4: Some pirate rooms you not can,t use hyper mode very much. One pirate took easily all your phazon metter. 
5: Of course Phaaze is top my list. Most interesting place in the game this must be insanely hard only 1et hyper. 
6: Both last boss. Aurora head must be fun because boss don,t drops energys and it is pretty long even Veteran mode. How much longer hyper mode battle is?

I am completed Echoes low-% hard mode run and normal mode 22% run in first prime. I think i never ever can beat hyper 22% run. Hyper 22% Corruption sounds like hardest low-% any metroid game history IMO.

Full credits Paraxade. This is totally awesome job. Hopefully full video come somedays. Hyper mode itself is hard as well. Low-% SS make this awesome.

Aruki

2008-01-15 08:01:58 pm

1. IIRC Mogenar takes me about 4 minutes. If it's taking you 20, I'm guessing you're trying to destroy all the orbs at once; just go for one at a time.
2. Mining cannon? Not sure what you're talking about.
3. You don't have to guess. Even if the visor's scrambled the X-ray/Nova Beam combo still works on pirates, so you just kill them as fast as you can.
4. Not really, most of the pirate rooms are easy. Going into Hypermode and letting yourself get corrupted right at the start usually lasts you through the whole fight.
5. Yeah, Phaaze sucks. :(
6. It's only a minute or two. It's not that hard, though, except when it uses the quad laser.

Mr. Aran

2008-01-16 12:33:05 am

everybody knows it's true

2. mining cannon - epic fight that involves blasting pirates into a vacuum machine before collecting the nova beam

Aruki

2008-01-16 12:39:27 am

oh... that fight isn't very hard either; I just go hyper and kill all but one of the pirates, collect the refills, and kill the last one when the laser starts; the refills refill me to max health and I repeat until the fight's over.

MASTER-88

2008-01-16 07:08:03 am

Speedrunner

Quote from Paraxade:

1. IIRC Mogenar takes me about 4 minutes. If it's taking you 20, I'm guessing you're trying to destroy all the orbs at once; just go for one at a time.

Thanks your long comments. Still i wonder your Mogenar fight. What you mean about this? Seriously only 4 minutes on hyper 22% run? I think your must be destroy all orbs when boss energy metter run out. Mean you: When you kill only one orb boss died?

Yeah i destroy all orbs, plus i miss couple times blue orbs. When i miss that i´ve must be destroy red orb again and it took alot time.

Aruki

2008-01-16 07:15:32 am

Just focus on one orb and destroy it. Don't worry about any of the other ones until the one you're focusing on is gone. I still have my 3:13 22% hyper; I could upload a vid of the fight I got in that if you want.

MASTER-88

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MASTER-88: 2008-01-16 07:44:16 am

2008-01-16 07:24:27 am

Speedrunner

Quote from Paraxade:

Just focus on one orb and destroy it. Don't worry about any of the other ones until the one you're focusing on is gone. I still have my 3:13 22% hyper; I could upload a vid of the fight I got in that if you want.

I think you mean this: You kill only one orb his back and boss died? .
I think it is pretty hard try get hit his back orb. Boss start running towards you after 2-3 target is destroyed.

Yeah i want see video of course. Hopefully flashplayer video.

Aruki

2008-01-16 08:24:33 am

Here you go.

Apparently it was actually 3-3.5 minutes, not 4. :P Not optimal either; fairly major mistake where I accidentally got corrupted while trying to bomb a couple of his boots, and a few other more minor ones.