Randomizer release

2014-07-16 04:07:36 pm

Ah. Might be a question better suited for the hacking thread so I can post a more detailed answer there if you want. But the gist of it, for the refill randomizer at least, is you read every MREA file, jump to where object data, and start parsing every object in the room. Anything marked as a pickup for health, PBs, or missiles is checked to make sure it's not an expansion, then the pickup type is randomized.

FirePhoenix

2014-07-16 08:02:22 pm

So, I'm having a weird issue where every randomized iso I rebuild spits out the same randomization regardless of the seed used and what the logs say should be changed. I keep getting copies of the first randomization I tried. I don't know if it's Dolphin keeping some residual data saved somewhere or if I'm just messing up over and over. I'm currently using the GCR method but I'm not using reka's script. I'm thinking of trying again but letting Dolphin extract everything instead and then running the randomizer once more.

I was having fun with the first run until I got to a point where I just couldn't proceed because the beams were hidden away behind doors that I couldn't get through. Technically I might have been able to get Plasma Beam if I were capable of doing the secret world to Ice Beam's area, since Plasma was at the halfpipe before X-Ray and I had power bombs but I can't do out-of-bounds stuff.

Hopefully this randomizer gets some options for ability soon because it's still really fun even if it's not possible more often than not.

So, I'm having a weird issue where every randomized iso I rebuild spits out the same randomization regardless of the seed used and what the logs say should be changed.  I keep getting copies of the first randomization I tried.  I don't know if it's Dolphin keeping some residual data saved somewhere or if I'm just messing up over and over.  I'm currently using the GCR method but I'm not using reka's script.  I'm thinking of trying again but letting Dolphin extract everything instead and then running the randomizer once more.

I was having fun with the first run until I got to a point where I just couldn't proceed because the beams were hidden away behind doors that I couldn't get through.  Technically I might have been able to get Plasma Beam if I were capable of doing the secret world to Ice Beam's area, since Plasma was at the halfpipe before X-Ray and I had power bombs but I can't do out-of-bounds stuff.

Hopefully this randomizer gets some options for ability soon because it's still really fun even if it's not possible more often than not.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-07-16 08:27:01 pm

You have to start on a fresh game save every single time.

Also, "Scan Visor Lost"... o.o

FirePhoenix

2014-07-16 08:31:54 pm

Yeah I was doing just that. I was also deleting the memory card save file every time.

I started over, this time using the randomizer script. We'll see how it goes.

Aruki

2014-07-16 10:52:29 pm

Maybe you've been forgetting to repack the paks?

FirePhoenix

2014-07-16 10:57:56 pm

Whatever the case, I got it to work again. My latest run was ended when I looked at the item list and discovered Wave Beam and Boost Ball are both in the Tower of Light.

I feel like most runs end just because of the beam doors and whether or not you get lucky enough to find all the beams early.

TheMG2

2014-07-16 11:00:41 pm

Quote from FirePhoenix:

Whatever the case, I got it to work again. My latest run was ended when I looked at the item list and discovered Wave Beam and Boost Ball are both in the Tower of Light.

I feel like most runs end just because of the beam doors and whether or not you get lucky enough to find all the beams early.

you could wallcrawl to that, but I don't know if you want to

StefanvanDijke

2014-07-17 03:11:39 am

Quote from Paraxade:

Impossible. The only way to wallcrawl to Lower Mines is to go in the back through Phazon Processing Center, and it can't be done without Plasma Beam.

Damn. This was such a fun seed. Especially since I lack 100% knowledge and didn't find ice beam untill very late in the run inside the pillar in triclops pit laugh new

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I thought I was stuck and then watched some videos and found I could still get about 5 more items from places I simply forgot. Then still no plasma beam and decided to check the log. Anyway I still had great fun with this seed. On to number 3!

AlphaRage

2014-07-17 05:55:17 am

Thanks Paraxade, I will have a look at that!

Quote from FirePhoenix:

I feel like most runs end just because of the beam doors and whether or not you get lucky enough to find all the beams early.

I'm in for this as well. I think it would be the first step to solve this problem if there should be a randomizer that only makes finishable runs. I think I read that this is a goal.

StefanvanDijke

2014-07-17 06:31:57 am

We should probably make a list of rooms where "xxxx beam" should not be placed. Would this be programmable?

On the other hand, it kind of has a thrill to it that you never know if you are able to finish your run or not

Zas

2014-07-17 04:04:58 pm

This RNG doesn't let me enter from Arboterum Access to Arboteru. First it game me a hard crash (Wii went BZZ). Tried again and it wouldn't load even if i waited, reloaded Arboterum Access and then the Arboterum door gave me another hard crash.
I'm using the randomizer downloaded from the first post.

Seed: 136249136
Excluded pickups: 5 19 28 63
Chozo - Main Plaza (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Tree) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Locked door) - Energy Tank - Ice Spreader
Chozo - Ruined Fountain - Missile Expansion - Thermal Visor
Chozo - Ruined Shrine ("Beetle battle") - Morph Ball - Morph Ball
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Lower tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Vault - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Nursery - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Magma Pool - Power Bomb Expansion - Artifact of Elder
Chozo - Tower of Light - Wavebuster - Gravity Suit
Chozo - Tower Chamber - Artifact of Lifegiver - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Missile wall) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Morph tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Transport Access North - Energy Tank - Artifact of Spirit
Chozo - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Hive Totem - Missile Launcher - Missile Launcher
Chozo - Sunchamber (Flaahgra) - Varia Suit - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Sunchamber (Ghosts) - Artifact of Wild - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Watery Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Super Missile
Chozo - Watery Hall (Scan puzzle) - Charge Beam - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Watery Hall (Underwater) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Lower) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Burn Dome (Missile) - Missile Expansion - Space Jump Boots
Chozo - Burn Dome (I. Drone) - Bombs - Bombs
Chozo - Furnace (Spider tracks) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Furnace (Inside Furnace) - Energy Tank - Phazon Suit
Chozo - Hall of the Elders - Energy Tank - Ice Beam
Chozo - Crossway - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Elder Chamber - Artifact of World - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Antechamber - Ice Beam - Artifact of Sun
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chozo Ice Temple - Artifact of Sun - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Ice Ruins West - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Lifegiver
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Varia Suit
Phendrana - Chapel of the Elders - Wave Beam - Grapple Beam
Phendrana - Ruined Courtyard - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Phendrana Canyon - Boost Ball - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Quarantine Cave - Spider Ball - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Research Lab Hydra - Missile Expansion - Wavebuster
Phendrana - Quarantine Monitor - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Observatory - Super Missile - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Transport Access - Energy Tank - Plasma Beam
Phendrana - Control Tower - Artifact of Elder - Artifact of World
Phendrana - Research Core - Thermal Visor - Artifact of Nature
Phendrana - Frost Cave - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Tank) - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Underwater) - Gravity Suit - Artifact of Warrior
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Storage Cave - Artifact of Spirit - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Security Cave - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Landing Site - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Tallon - Alcove - Space Jump Boots - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Frigate Crash Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Overgrown Cavern - Missile Expansion - Flamethrower
Tallon - Root Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Artifact Temple - Artifact of Truth - Artifact of Truth
Tallon - Transport Tunnel B - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Strength
Tallon - Arbor Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma - Energy Tank - X-Ray Visor
Tallon - Biohazard Containment - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Newborn
Tallon - Hydro Access Tunnel - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Great Tree Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Power Bombs
Tallon - Life Grove (Start) - X-Ray Visor - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove (Underwater spinner) - Artifact of Chozo - Missile Expansion
Mines - Main Quarry - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Security Access A - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot B - Grapple Beam - Boost Ball
Mines - Storage Depot A - Flamethrower - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Phazon Elite) - Artifact of Warrior - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Laser) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Control Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Ventilation Shaft - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Mines - Phazon Processing Center - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Mines - Processing Center Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Quarters - Phazon Suit - Missile Expansion
Mines - Central Dynamo - Power Bombs - Energy Tank
Mines - Metroid Quarantine B - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Metroid Quarantine A - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Fungal Hall B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Phazon Mining Tunnel - Artifact of Newborn - Missile Expansion
Mines - Fungal Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Charge Beam
Magmoor - Lava Lake - Artifact of Nature - Artifact of Chozo
Magmoor - Triclops Pit - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Storage Cavern - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Transport Tunnel A - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Warrior Shrine - Artifact of Strength - Wave Beam
Magmoor - Shore Tunnel - Ice Spreader - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Warrior Shrine tunnel) - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Plasma Processing - Plasma Beam - Energy Tank
Magmoor - Magmoor Workstation - Energy Tank - Artifact of Wild

This RNG doesn't let me enter from Arboterum Access to Arboteru. First it game me a hard crash (Wii went BZZ). Tried again and it wouldn't load even if i waited, reloaded Arboterum Access and then the Arboterum door gave me another hard crash.
I'm using the randomizer downloaded from the first post.
[hidden]Seed: 136249136
Excluded pickups: 5 19 28 63 
Chozo - Main Plaza (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Tree) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Locked door) - Energy Tank - Ice Spreader
Chozo - Ruined Fountain - Missile Expansion - Thermal Visor
Chozo - Ruined Shrine ("Beetle battle") - Morph Ball - Morph Ball
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Lower tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Vault - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Nursery - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Magma Pool - Power Bomb Expansion - Artifact of Elder
Chozo - Tower of Light - Wavebuster - Gravity Suit
Chozo - Tower Chamber - Artifact of Lifegiver - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Missile wall) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Morph tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Transport Access North - Energy Tank - Artifact of Spirit
Chozo - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Hive Totem - Missile Launcher - Missile Launcher
Chozo - Sunchamber (Flaahgra) - Varia Suit - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Sunchamber (Ghosts) - Artifact of Wild - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Watery Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Super Missile
Chozo - Watery Hall (Scan puzzle) - Charge Beam - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Watery Hall (Underwater) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Lower) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Burn Dome (Missile) - Missile Expansion - Space Jump Boots
Chozo - Burn Dome (I. Drone) - Bombs - Bombs
Chozo - Furnace (Spider tracks) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Furnace (Inside Furnace) - Energy Tank - Phazon Suit
Chozo - Hall of the Elders - Energy Tank - Ice Beam
Chozo - Crossway - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Elder Chamber - Artifact of World - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Antechamber - Ice Beam - Artifact of Sun
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chozo Ice Temple - Artifact of Sun - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Ice Ruins West - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Lifegiver
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Varia Suit
Phendrana - Chapel of the Elders - Wave Beam - Grapple Beam
Phendrana - Ruined Courtyard - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Phendrana Canyon - Boost Ball - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Quarantine Cave - Spider Ball - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Research Lab Hydra - Missile Expansion - Wavebuster
Phendrana - Quarantine Monitor - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Observatory - Super Missile - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Transport Access - Energy Tank - Plasma Beam
Phendrana - Control Tower - Artifact of Elder - Artifact of World
Phendrana - Research Core - Thermal Visor - Artifact of Nature
Phendrana - Frost Cave - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Tank) - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Underwater) - Gravity Suit - Artifact of Warrior
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Storage Cave - Artifact of Spirit - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Security Cave - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Landing Site - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Tallon - Alcove - Space Jump Boots - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Frigate Crash Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Overgrown Cavern - Missile Expansion - Flamethrower
Tallon - Root Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Artifact Temple - Artifact of Truth - Artifact of Truth
Tallon - Transport Tunnel B - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Strength
Tallon - Arbor Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma - Energy Tank - X-Ray Visor
Tallon - Biohazard Containment - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Newborn
Tallon - Hydro Access Tunnel - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Great Tree Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Power Bombs
Tallon - Life Grove (Start) - X-Ray Visor - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove (Underwater spinner) - Artifact of Chozo - Missile Expansion
Mines - Main Quarry - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Security Access A - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot B - Grapple Beam - Boost Ball
Mines - Storage Depot A - Flamethrower - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Phazon Elite) - Artifact of Warrior - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Laser) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Control Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Ventilation Shaft - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Mines - Phazon Processing Center - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Mines - Processing Center Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Quarters - Phazon Suit - Missile Expansion
Mines - Central Dynamo - Power Bombs - Energy Tank
Mines - Metroid Quarantine B - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Metroid Quarantine A - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Fungal Hall B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Phazon Mining Tunnel - Artifact of Newborn - Missile Expansion
Mines - Fungal Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Charge Beam
Magmoor - Lava Lake - Artifact of Nature - Artifact of Chozo
Magmoor - Triclops Pit - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Storage Cavern - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Transport Tunnel A - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Warrior Shrine - Artifact of Strength - Wave Beam
Magmoor - Shore Tunnel - Ice Spreader - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Warrior Shrine tunnel) - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Plasma Processing - Plasma Beam - Energy Tank
Magmoor - Magmoor Workstation - Energy Tank - Artifact of Wild
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Aruki

2014-07-17 04:45:49 pm

Can you PM Miles the Metroid2.pak you used?

FirePhoenix

2014-07-17 05:25:33 pm

Quote from StefanvanDijke:

We should probably make a list of rooms where "xxxx beam" should not be placed. Would this be programmable?

On the other hand, it kind of has a thrill to it that you never know if you are able to finish your run or not

I'm of the opposite opinion when it comes to not knowing if your run is possible. But then again, that's why having it as an option would be the best way. One of the randomizers for SM has a checkbox for "Possible to Finish" and I think it's better for it. I don't like finding my time is ultimately wasted.

UchihaSasuke

2014-07-17 06:22:47 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

having all the options is best since people who still want the trill of not knowing they can finish can still have a randomizer like that.

it also serves the crazy people that want to have every item randomized :p

Baby Sheegoth

Edit history:

Baby Sheegoth: 2014-07-17 08:58:46 pm

2014-07-17 08:58:01 pm

Quote from StefanvanDijke:

We should probably make a list of rooms where "xxxx beam" should not be placed. Would this be programmable?

On the other hand, it kind of has a thrill to it that you never know if you are able to finish your run or not

It is possible but the problem is that it's very conditional.

How skilled are you at the game? How patient are you? Are you going to wait 3 hours to float back up from the bottom of North Quarantine Tunnel? Can you do IBBF How about other OOB? How about 21% strats? Do you have X beam? (having certain beams makes other placements possible, and iirc the randomiser doesn't know until it's done where everything is), etc. There's a lot of obstacles.

For now, I've resigned to keeping Wave, Ice, Morph and Bombs in the same spot. Been working fairly well so far

StefanvanDijke

Edit history:

StefanvanDijke: 2014-07-18 02:10:05 am

2014-07-18 02:08:52 am

yeah I know what you're saying, we could at least remove the obvious locations where a beam will kill your run.

Plasma, Ice, Wave: Not in lower mines
Ice, Wave. Not in Mines, crashed frigate, Far Phendrana
Wave. Not in back of magmoor, back of chozo

Sure, runs could still be finished with a spread where any of these beams are located in the rooms as mentioned above but it would certainly help the more casual players to avoid wallcrawling.

I personally like wallcrawling up to a certain level, also things such as floaty jump and infinite speed are very fun to use so probably I would not use the option described above. Still, I think it is a reasonable solution and would make 90% of randomizers completable for reasonable players.

Aruki

2014-07-18 04:19:05 am

Making the randomizer always completable is not a new idea and it's already in the cards. It just hasn't been implemented yet. Patience :P

FirePhoenix

2014-07-18 02:37:53 pm

It's been a few years since I did any major sequence breaking but is wall-crawling the same thing as what used to be known as secret world skips? Because if so I know I can't do any of those and definitely would like an option to ensure no necessary wallcrawling.

Aruki

2014-07-18 02:39:51 pm

Yes, that's already planned.

FirePhoenix

2014-07-18 02:41:43 pm

Great. Looking forward to the next version!

Baby Sheegoth

2014-07-19 02:13:15 pm

Quote from StefanvanDijke:

yeah I know what you're saying, we could at least remove the obvious locations where a beam will kill your run.

Plasma, Ice, Wave: Not in lower mines
Ice, Wave. Not in Mines, crashed frigate, Far Phendrana
Wave. Not in back of magmoor, back of chozo

Sure, runs could still be finished with a spread where any of these beams are located in the rooms as mentioned above but it would certainly help the more casual players to avoid wallcrawling.

I personally like wallcrawling up to a certain level, also things such as floaty jump and infinite speed are very fun to use so probably I would not use the option described above. Still, I think it is a reasonable solution and would make 90% of randomizers completable for reasonable players.

But again, Wave is perfectly obtainable in Crashed Frigate as long as you have Ice :p

A-M

2014-07-19 03:37:03 pm

I'm having a lot of fun with this randomizer, thank you very much for your work guys !
Unfortunately my first seed is impossible for my level (Ice Beam in Life Groove and Space Jump in Phazon Mines), let's go for a second try

Baby Sheegoth

2014-07-19 03:40:24 pm

Not technically impossible... ;3

Aruki

Edit history:

Aruki: 2014-07-19 03:42:18 pm

2014-07-19 03:41:46 pm

I dunno, I wouldn't want to have to wallcrawl into the Crashed Frigate without SJ. And then get stuck because I can't climb Great Tree Hall.

Drewseph

2014-07-19 06:28:35 pm

Wave beam can't be in the crashed frigate since its needed to activate doors. so you can only get so far in a room with just the ice beam. Also what if the randomizer could somehow also randomize beam types on door shells?