Randomizer release

2014-06-23 06:17:46 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

Quote from Paraxade:

I'm not sure specifically what's different in the game's files in other versions of the game. I know some rooms have extra objects (like door locks or piles of Bendezium rubble) and I'm not sure exactly how the randomizer reads/writes to those files. Seems entirely possible to me there could be differences that screw it up.

Uchiha posted earlier that he got it to work in Trilogy by dumping randomized 0-00 paks into Trilogy, but that doesn't mean it'll correctly randomize the files Trilogy actually uses normally. But then again it could work perfectly. It's untested.

on the little i got to play on the edited trilogy iso, the randomizer had actually worked fine since i loaded the same randomized packs in a 0-00 iso and the items matched up.
the big issue so far is the hard crash in artifact temple. hopefully reka can figure out why that happens.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 06:18:21 pm

That shouldn't even be happening, because Truth isn't changed >.>

UchihaSasuke

2014-06-23 06:19:08 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

you never know. something might be conflicting with trilogy-specific additions.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 06:20:42 pm

Well yeah I assume so. I just think it's weird the one place that we don't fuck with breaks

Aruki

2014-06-23 06:22:34 pm

It doesn't matter if Truth is changed or not, you're copying Prime 1 files into Trilogy. Sure it might work, but you're basically removing all the Trilogy changes by doing that, so if it relies on some extra object in Artifact Temple that wasn't in the original, it's gonna crash.

I was talking about randomizing the Trilogy paks, not copying Prime 1 paks into Trilogy.

rekameohs

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rekameohs: 2014-06-23 06:24:54 pm

rekameohs: 2014-06-23 06:24:01 pm

rekameohs: 2014-06-23 06:23:40 pm

2014-06-23 06:23:10 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

I would assume that your "dumping 0-00 paks" into Trilogy is unplayable because it's almost an inevitability that some of the data in those files is read differently. It's pretty surprising that it runs period. I'm just a little curious if the randomizer works on the Trilogy paks themselves.

edit: as stated above!

And we're certain that the GM8J Japanese release works?

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 06:24:51 pm

I have the GM8J version but no way to use the randomizer software, sadly.

rekameohs

2014-06-23 06:28:52 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

It should be exactly the same as the NA version, but the ISO.hdr file that Paraxade attached needs to be edited with a hex editor to read GM8J when rebuilding the ISO.

Later tonight, I'll take a look when I'm available.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 06:29:51 pm

Nah I mean like, I don't have a windows computer to use the software on. I would assume it works just fine though. I have the PAL version too if people want

rekameohs

2014-06-23 06:34:18 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Oh, haha. I've only got ISO's of the games I own, so just NA 0-00 Prime and Trilogy. I suppose if Trilogy works, they all would, but I dunno.

UchihaSasuke

2014-06-23 06:38:11 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

oh btw, i was using the japanese mp1 for wii. do the paks contain language stuff?

Aruki

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Aruki: 2014-06-23 06:39:16 pm

2014-06-23 06:38:51 pm

the only thing they would've needed to change for localization AFAIK are STRG files, which the randomizer doesn't touch. aside from creating a custom one for the Phazon Suit scan.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 07:06:43 pm

Shoemaker where are yooooooooououououou

MilesSMB

2014-06-23 07:16:33 pm

The randomizer might "work" on other versions of the game, but I can't guarantee that the changed files will actually work in-game. So if the program does work, don't get your hopes up yet.

Also trying to turn Trilogy into 0-00 does not count as "working on Trilogy". >_>

Opium

2014-06-23 07:24:14 pm

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I'd like to try this. I have an old wii that has a broken disc drive, and I'd like to use it for things like this. I'm a little overwhelmed by all the different sets of instructions online. Can anyone point me to the best one? (or can I even use the wii for this? I just don't want to play it on my PC)

Ok Opium, you're literally me like 12 hours ago. How far along are you in Wii softmodding?

I;m at square 1. I haven't done anything yet.

Alright Opium, first...

Holy Crap. Thanks.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 07:25:56 pm

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Quote from Opium:

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Quote from Opium:

I'd like to try this. I have an old wii that has a broken disc drive, and I'd like to use it for things like this. I'm a little overwhelmed by all the different sets of instructions online. Can anyone point me to the best one? (or can I even use the wii for this? I just don't want to play it on my PC)

Ok Opium, you're literally me like 12 hours ago. How far along are you in Wii softmodding?

I;m at square 1. I haven't done anything yet.

Alright Opium, first...

Holy Crap. Thanks.

Yeah, it's a fucking PROCESS. I literally had to take 9 hours of my day to figure out how the fuck to get it to work. Let me know if its not working

T3

2014-06-23 07:34:35 pm

tried using nintendont but the loads are pretty bad, the game stutters randomly, and also occasionally crashes. what sort of things should i be doing to get better loads? is dios mios any better?

alelau18

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alelau18: 2014-06-23 07:38:13 pm

2014-06-23 07:36:03 pm

I find Dios Mios better than Nintendont, at least for me.

UchihaSasuke

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UchihaSasuke: 2014-06-23 07:38:03 pm

2014-06-23 07:37:45 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

i used an HDD formatted to FAT32 with 64k clusters to get it to work with nintendont. i get stutters but that's it. game didn't crash so far.

also, i've got my first randomizer dud

Code:

Seed: 1732617079
Excluded pickups: 5 19 28 63 
Chozo - Main Plaza (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Tree) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Locked door) - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Fountain - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Shrine ("Beetle battle") - Morph Ball - Morph Ball
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Lower tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Vault - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Training Chamber - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Nursery - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber Access - Missile Expansion - Gravity Suit
Chozo - Magma Pool - Power Bomb Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Tower of Light - Wavebuster - Energy Tank
Chozo - Tower Chamber - Artifact of Lifegiver - Artifact of Nature
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Missile wall) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Morph tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Transport Access North - Energy Tank - Charge Beam
Chozo - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Hive Totem - Missile Launcher - Missile Launcher
Chozo - Sunchamber (Flaahgra) - Varia Suit - Wavebuster
Chozo - Sunchamber (Ghosts) - Artifact of Wild - Energy Tank
Chozo - Watery Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Watery Hall (Scan puzzle) - Charge Beam - Artifact of Newborn
Chozo - Watery Hall (Underwater) - Missile Expansion - Ice Beam
Chozo - Dynamo (Lower) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Power Bombs
Chozo - Burn Dome (Missile) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Burn Dome (I. Drone) - Bombs - Bombs
Chozo - Furnace (Spider tracks) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Furnace (Inside Furnace) - Energy Tank - Flamethrower
Chozo - Hall of the Elders - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Crossway - Missile Expansion - Boost Ball
Chozo - Elder Chamber - Artifact of World - Grapple Beam
Chozo - Antechamber - Ice Beam - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Super Missile
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chozo Ice Temple - Artifact of Sun - Ice Spreader
Phendrana - Ice Ruins West - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Thermal Visor
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chapel of the Elders - Wave Beam - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Ruined Courtyard - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Phendrana Canyon - Boost Ball - Artifact of Lifegiver
Phendrana - Quarantine Cave - Spider Ball - Varia Suit
Phendrana - Research Lab Hydra - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Quarantine Monitor - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Observatory - Super Missile - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Transport Access - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Control Tower - Artifact of Elder - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Core - Thermal Visor - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Frost Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Tank) - Energy Tank - Artifact of Sun
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Underwater) - Gravity Suit - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Storage Cave - Artifact of Spirit - Artifact of World
Phendrana - Security Cave - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Landing Site - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Tallon - Alcove - Space Jump Boots - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Frigate Crash Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Overgrown Cavern - Missile Expansion - Space Jump Boots
Tallon - Root Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Artifact Temple - Artifact of Truth - Artifact of Truth
Tallon - Transport Tunnel B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Arbor Chamber - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Tallon - Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma - Energy Tank - Wave Beam
Tallon - Biohazard Containment - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Hydro Access Tunnel - Energy Tank - Artifact of Wild
Tallon - Great Tree Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Spirit
Tallon - Life Grove (Start) - X-Ray Visor - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove (Underwater spinner) - Artifact of Chozo - Missile Expansion
Mines - Main Quarry - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Security Access A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot B - Grapple Beam - Missile Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot A - Flamethrower - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Phazon Elite) - Artifact of Warrior - Plasma Beam
Mines - Elite Research (Laser) - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Mines - Elite Control Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Ventilation Shaft - Energy Tank - X-Ray Visor
Mines - Phazon Processing Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Processing Center Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Quarters - Phazon Suit - Energy Tank
Mines - Central Dynamo - Power Bombs - Missile Expansion
Mines - Metroid Quarantine B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Metroid Quarantine A - Missile Expansion - Phazon Suit
Mines - Fungal Hall B - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Phazon Mining Tunnel - Artifact of Newborn - Energy Tank
Mines - Fungal Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Lava Lake - Artifact of Nature - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Triclops Pit - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Storage Cavern - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Strength
Magmoor - Transport Tunnel A - Energy Tank - Artifact of Warrior
Magmoor - Warrior Shrine - Artifact of Strength - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Shore Tunnel - Ice Spreader - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Warrior Shrine tunnel) - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Plasma Processing - Plasma Beam - Artifact of Elder
Magmoor - Magmoor Workstation - Energy Tank - Artifact of Chozo

i used an HDD formatted to FAT32 with 64k clusters to get it to work with nintendont. i get stutters but that's it. game didn't crash so far.

also, i've got my first randomizer dud

[hidden][code]Seed: 1732617079
Excluded pickups: 5 19 28 63 
Chozo - Main Plaza (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Tree) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Locked door) - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Fountain - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Shrine ("Beetle battle") - Morph Ball - Morph Ball
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Lower tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Vault - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Training Chamber - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Nursery - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber Access - Missile Expansion - Gravity Suit
Chozo - Magma Pool - Power Bomb Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Tower of Light - Wavebuster - Energy Tank
Chozo - Tower Chamber - Artifact of Lifegiver - Artifact of Nature
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Missile wall) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Morph tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Transport Access North - Energy Tank - Charge Beam
Chozo - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Hive Totem - Missile Launcher - Missile Launcher
Chozo - Sunchamber (Flaahgra) - Varia Suit - Wavebuster
Chozo - Sunchamber (Ghosts) - Artifact of Wild - Energy Tank
Chozo - Watery Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Watery Hall (Scan puzzle) - Charge Beam - Artifact of Newborn
Chozo - Watery Hall (Underwater) - Missile Expansion - Ice Beam
Chozo - Dynamo (Lower) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Power Bombs
Chozo - Burn Dome (Missile) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Burn Dome (I. Drone) - Bombs - Bombs
Chozo - Furnace (Spider tracks) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Furnace (Inside Furnace) - Energy Tank - Flamethrower
Chozo - Hall of the Elders - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Crossway - Missile Expansion - Boost Ball
Chozo - Elder Chamber - Artifact of World - Grapple Beam
Chozo - Antechamber - Ice Beam - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Super Missile
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chozo Ice Temple - Artifact of Sun - Ice Spreader
Phendrana - Ice Ruins West - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Thermal Visor
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chapel of the Elders - Wave Beam - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Ruined Courtyard - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Phendrana Canyon - Boost Ball - Artifact of Lifegiver
Phendrana - Quarantine Cave - Spider Ball - Varia Suit
Phendrana - Research Lab Hydra - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Quarantine Monitor - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Observatory - Super Missile - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Transport Access - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Control Tower - Artifact of Elder - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Core - Thermal Visor - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Frost Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Tank) - Energy Tank - Artifact of Sun
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Underwater) - Gravity Suit - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Storage Cave - Artifact of Spirit - Artifact of World
Phendrana - Security Cave - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Landing Site - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Tallon - Alcove - Space Jump Boots - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Frigate Crash Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Overgrown Cavern - Missile Expansion - Space Jump Boots
Tallon - Root Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Artifact Temple - Artifact of Truth - Artifact of Truth
Tallon - Transport Tunnel B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Arbor Chamber - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Tallon - Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma - Energy Tank - Wave Beam
Tallon - Biohazard Containment - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Hydro Access Tunnel - Energy Tank - Artifact of Wild
Tallon - Great Tree Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Spirit
Tallon - Life Grove (Start) - X-Ray Visor - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove (Underwater spinner) - Artifact of Chozo - Missile Expansion
Mines - Main Quarry - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Security Access A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot B - Grapple Beam - Missile Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot A - Flamethrower - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Phazon Elite) - Artifact of Warrior - Plasma Beam
Mines - Elite Research (Laser) - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Mines - Elite Control Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Ventilation Shaft - Energy Tank - X-Ray Visor
Mines - Phazon Processing Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Processing Center Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Quarters - Phazon Suit - Energy Tank
Mines - Central Dynamo - Power Bombs - Missile Expansion
Mines - Metroid Quarantine B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Metroid Quarantine A - Missile Expansion - Phazon Suit
Mines - Fungal Hall B - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Mines - Phazon Mining Tunnel - Artifact of Newborn - Energy Tank
Mines - Fungal Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Lava Lake - Artifact of Nature - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Triclops Pit - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Storage Cavern - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Strength
Magmoor - Transport Tunnel A - Energy Tank - Artifact of Warrior
Magmoor - Warrior Shrine - Artifact of Strength - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Shore Tunnel - Ice Spreader - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Warrior Shrine tunnel) - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Plasma Processing - Plasma Beam - Artifact of Elder
Magmoor - Magmoor Workstation - Energy Tank - Artifact of Chozo
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Baby Sheegoth

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Baby Sheegoth: 2014-06-23 07:42:24 pm

2014-06-23 07:42:01 pm

Damn that's actually a REALLY nice randomization minus the Wave beam

EDIT: And yeah, Dios Mios Lite launching off an SD card seems to be the way to go to be honest

Aruki

2014-06-23 07:43:51 pm

That looks doable, actually. After you get Ice Beam you can easily grab Space Jump out of Overgrown Cavern, then you can do the Frigate backwards to pick up Wave Beam.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 07:44:52 pm

Oh shit I think you're right, if you go backwards all the Wave stuff doesn't even matter.

UchihaSasuke

2014-06-23 07:44:56 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

oohh. looks like my bad skills are getting the best out of me. i couldn't even do the underwater ghetto to get ice beam.

Baby Sheegoth

2014-06-23 07:45:17 pm

Gravity suit + Double Bomb Jump

Aruki

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Aruki: 2014-06-23 07:47:20 pm

2014-06-23 07:46:03 pm

Gravity's not accessible without Wave in that randomization. You can just ghetto up to it though, like Uchiha said. It's a pretty annoying ghetto but I don't usually find it to be too bad.

You'd also have to use floaty jump to pick up Boost Ball in Crossway.