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Akaihiryuu
2004-02-26 01:12:49 pm
I've seen what some of the improvements in the Player's Choice version are, but I'm curious about a few things in particular.  I'm wondering if it does have the following changes that the PAL version had:

1) Flaahgra's music fixed
2) can kill troopers with power bombs
3) altered Meta Ridley ground phase
4) altered cut scenes (phazon suit, grapple beam, etc)
5) changed animations (ice beam, etc)
6) altered enemy locations (ice shriekbats no longer disappear, no hunter metroid in ice cave, fusion metroids sooner, etc)
7) Bendezium in places where it wasn't in the NA version, to keep you from sequence breaking

Has anyone played the Player's Choice version enough to know this?  I read a guide of differences between the PC version and the regular NA version, but it didn't elaborate on enough details.  I'm considering picking up a copy of the PC version for the new data loader alone, as that prevents freezes.  I've learned to avoid freezes by slowing down and being more careful, but it's still annoying.
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nate
2004-02-26 01:49:53 pm
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
I've seen what some of the improvements in the Player's Choice version are, but I'm curious about a few things in particular.  I'm wondering if it does have the following changes that the PAL version had:

1) Flaahgra's music fixed

nope!
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
2) can kill troopers with power bombs

nope!
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
3) altered Meta Ridley ground phase

nope! the "no hurt me" bug is still there, too!
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
4) altered cut scenes (phazon suit, grapple beam, etc)

nope!
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
5) changed animations (ice beam, etc)

nope!
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
6) altered enemy locations (ice shriekbats no longer disappear, no hunter metroid in ice cave, fusion metroids sooner, etc)

nope!
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
7) Bendezium in places where it wasn't in the NA version, to keep you from sequence breaking

nope!

i consider my list on gamefaqs to be exhaustive. still need to submit it as a faq ... thanks for reminding me of that.

Quote from Akaihiryuu:
I've learned to avoid freezes by slowing down and being more careful, but it's still annoying.

there is no known link between the speed at which you go through the game and the frequency of crashes. a psychological phenomenon called 'the placebo effect' is causing you to believe that you have prevented crashes, but in fact the crashes affect radix, one of the fastest players in the world, exactly the same amount as they affect you.

hope that helps.
Roy
2004-02-26 03:15:14 pm
look,is there any difference between the normal PAL and the players choice PAL?cause i have the pc PAL O-o;;
Metroid Prime
2004-02-26 03:17:50 pm
Quote from njahnke:
the "no hurt me" bug is still there, too!


Exactly what is that?
Akaihiryuu
2004-02-26 03:28:55 pm
The only place I've ever experienced crashes was in the first elevator going to the Chozo ruins.  If you run onto the elevator too fast without giving the game a chance to "catch up" so to speak, it'll freeze at the top.  I've been able to get to freeze, or not, at will at that particular point.  I haven't had any crash problems elsewhere.  I wonder if it might be worth it to get a copy of the PAL version for the extra stuff (though I don't care for the narrator at all).
Light of Day
2004-02-26 03:34:16 pm
Quote from MMcLean54:
Quote from njahnke:
the "no hurt me" bug is still there, too!


Exactly what is that?

It's a bug that sometimes causes him to be invunerable when he's stunned. It doesn't happen in the PAL version, though.
Akaihiryuu
2004-02-26 03:38:42 pm
How difficult is it to play the PAL version on an NTSC console?  I'm assuming that it's just a matter of getting that Freeloader disk.  Something similar to that was all it took for me to run the PAL version of Shenmue II on my Dreamcast.  Also, does anyone know any good places to find the PAL version?  I only know of Japanese import sites...although I guess the Japanese version has the same improvements the PAL version had.
nate
2004-02-26 03:38:48 pm
Quote from Roy:
look,is there any difference between the normal PAL and the players choice PAL?cause i have the pc PAL O-o;;

not that we know.
Light of Day
2004-02-26 04:23:00 pm
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
...although I guess the Japanese version has the same improvements the PAL version had.

Yeah, the Japanese and PAL versions are the same in that respect. I'm not sure how easy it is to play different region games on a Gamecube, though. I guess it's possible, but I'm not sure how.
Gice
2004-02-26 05:02:55 pm
First, why is everyone talking bout "improvements"???

Quote from Akaihiryuu:
How difficult is it to play the PAL version on an NTSC console?  I'm assuming that it's just a matter of getting that Freeloader disk.  Something similar to that was all it took for me to run the PAL version of Shenmue II on my Dreamcast.  Also, does anyone know any good places to find the PAL version?  I only know of Japanese import sites...although I guess the Japanese version has the same improvements the PAL version had.


I think same as playing NTSC on a PAL Console, i got the Freeloader, but i dont know if there is one the other way around?!
(has nate a PAL Console?, if not ask him)
nate
2004-02-26 05:25:12 pm
i just use action replay (with freeloader) to play the pal version of metroid prime on my us gamecube. plays with ntsc video and everything.
Akaihiryuu
2004-02-26 09:15:14 pm
Sounds good...any idea where to actually find the PAL version?  I have several videogame import sites bookmarked...I did a LOT of importing back in the Saturn days.  However, all the import sites I know only have Japanese imports.  Know of any good PAL import sites?
nate
2004-02-26 09:28:44 pm
Quote from Akaihiryuu:
Sounds good...any idea where to actually find the PAL version?  I have several videogame import sites bookmarked...I did a LOT of importing back in the Saturn days.  However, all the import sites I know only have Japanese imports.  Know of any good PAL import sites?

got mine off of ebay.
The Last Metroid
2004-02-26 09:59:26 pm
I almost bought a copy of the PAL version while in Europe, but Nate reccomended I didn't.
nate
2004-02-26 10:01:01 pm
Quote from The Last Metroid:
I almost bought a copy of the UK version while in Europe, but Nate reccomended I didn't.

yeah, it sucks.