Prime trilogy is not canon?

2012-09-09 10:55:53 pm

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After screwing around some Other M rant videos, I've heard some rumors saying that Nintendo banned the prime series from the real events. If so where? And if true, why? Its kinda cool they bring in something that replaces Metroids being the main antagonist for a while.

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arkarian

2012-09-09 10:58:34 pm

red chamber dream

i wouldn't blame them really, i mean they're all technically shitty, broken games

tomatobob

2012-09-10 12:02:29 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

It's not true, just a misunderstanding of something Sakamoto said. He called them a side story, which they are.

rekameohs

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rekameohs: 2012-09-10 03:45:41 am

2012-09-10 03:45:20 am

Anywhere, everywhere

Does it really matter? I mean, Metroid's story is....pretty sparse.

tomatobob

2012-09-10 07:17:18 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Other M was a masterpiece, you swine!

Quietus

2012-09-10 07:35:27 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Quote from rekameohs:

Does it really matter?

This.

UchihaSasuke

2012-09-12 02:20:26 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

bad translations blowing up as usual.

Opium

2012-09-12 08:56:57 pm

WTF does 'banned them from the real events' mean?

tomatobob

2012-09-12 09:31:05 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Nothing. Nintendo means nothing, Metroid means nothing, the world means nothing.

All is dust.

rekameohs

2012-09-12 10:43:37 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from Opium:

WTF does 'banned them from the real events' mean?

Metroid is srs business. Especially the part where the human girl raised by birds fights a dragon and its pet jellyfish.

tomatobob

2012-09-12 10:56:57 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Then that one jellyfish died and she got PTSD. A deep and serious take on serious real life issues.

Opium

2012-09-12 11:31:10 pm

Quote from rekameohs:

Quote from Opium:

WTF does 'banned them from the real events' mean?

Metroid is srs business. Especially the part where the human girl raised by birds fights a dragon and its pet jellyfish.

lol exactly. Who the fuck gives a crap about story, anyways. SO over ridiculous arguments about game story/fiction. Who the fuck cares?

I puked over this thread on the CV dungeon forums where people argued about story of AoS. I was like: Hello? Count Dracula's Transylvanian castle appears in an eclipse at a shrine in Japan, and an exchange student who's lineage allows him to be possessed by monster's souls gets sucked into it, etc etc - and you're taking that shit seriously? I got serious responses about what awesome writing it was. I just like to play the damn game.

Super KB

2012-09-20 06:47:44 pm

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Quote from arkarian:

i wouldn't blame them really, i mean they're all technically shitty, broken games

Oh okay so its just set aside for now.

I know Metroid's story is pretty fucking sluggish but stories are supposed to bring some entertainment to the players even when gameplay is the main focus in video games. The only thing now is how is Nintendo going to resurrect Metroid after this disaster came.

arkarian

2012-09-20 06:49:48 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from Opium:

I just like to play the damn game.

and some people like digging into and analyzing the story.

tomatobob

2012-09-20 07:02:13 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Super KB:

. The only thing now is how is Nintendo going to resurrect Metroid after this disaster came.

Wait eight years and hand it over to a Western second party developer.

Super KB

2012-09-20 08:48:16 pm

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Back to Texas I'm assuming? :P

arkarian

2012-09-20 08:51:04 pm

red chamber dream

yeah, because that worked out soo well the first time

Super KB

2012-09-20 09:00:46 pm

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Which is indeed great Miyamoto knew what he was doing when he was part of the prime trilogy partnering with a bunch of people from TX. I guess Sakamoto became so jealous that they made a better game than he ever could.

tomatobob

2012-09-20 11:29:03 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from arkarian:

yeah, because that worked out soo well the first time

Just don't let them make sequels.

UchihaSasuke

2012-09-21 07:14:36 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

Quote from tomatobob:

Quote from Super KB:

. The only thing now is how is Nintendo going to resurrect Metroid after this disaster came.

Wait eight years and hand it over to a Western second party developer.

wait, does this mean Super Metroid was an Other M-level franchise-killing game???

tomatobob

2012-09-21 07:15:24 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Yes.

Kitsune_Phoenix

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Kitsune_Phoenix: 2013-04-24 01:10:23 am

2013-04-23 06:18:21 pm

Ta'kaya as "Teyla the Demiphoenix"

The Metroid Prime games are designed to fit within the canon of the Metroid Series, but except in their little side story do not actually contribute to it. However, if all Phazon in the universe was destroyed, what explains the Hyper Beam at the end of Super Metroid? If I recall correctly, the very first bit of phazon was produced by a metroid that had too much to eat (they do output pure energy as waste, afterall).

Timeline:
- Metroid and/or Zero Mission
- Metroid Prime (apocryphal)
- Metroid Prime: Hunters (Super-apocryphal. It is an apocryphal product among other apocryphal products.)
- Metroid Prime 2 (apocryphal)
- Metroid Prime 3 (apocryphal)
- Metroid II: Return of Samus
- Super Metroid
- Other M
- Metroid Fusion

Disclaimer: For those that are unfamiliar with the term, Apocryphal is the grey zone between Canon and Non-Canon. Whatever is in this zone cannot be accurately described as either. Metroid Prime is a good example, for it is designed to fit within the canon of the Metroid series, but does not entirely contribute to it. However, that does not necessarily mean that it is Non-Canon, for it does not conflict with Metroid Canon.
Now if you were to change the entire backstory of the game so that instead of the Galactic Federation, it was a bunch of factions at war with eachother (example: United Confideracy of Terra, versus a bunch of other factions), then it could be considered Non-Canon, since it would actively conflict with the Canon of the franchise.

The Metroid Prime games are designed to fit within the canon of the Metroid Series, but except in their little side story do not actually contribute to it. However, if all Phazon in the universe was destroyed, what explains the Hyper Beam at the end of Super Metroid? If I recall correctly, the very first bit of phazon was produced by a metroid that had too much to eat (they do output pure energy as waste, afterall).

Timeline:
- Metroid and/or Zero Mission
     - Metroid Prime (apocryphal)
        - Metroid Prime: Hunters (Super-apocryphal. It is an apocryphal product among other apocryphal products.)
     - Metroid Prime 2 (apocryphal)
     - Metroid Prime 3 (apocryphal)
- Metroid II: Return of Samus
- Super Metroid
- Other M
- Metroid Fusion

Disclaimer: For those that are unfamiliar with the term, Apocryphal is the grey zone between Canon and Non-Canon. Whatever is in this zone cannot be accurately described as either. Metroid Prime is a good example, for it is designed to fit within the canon of the Metroid series, but does not entirely contribute to it. However, that does not necessarily mean that it is Non-Canon, for it does not conflict with Metroid Canon.
Now if you were to change the entire backstory of the game so that instead of the Galactic Federation, it was a bunch of factions at war with eachother (example: United Confideracy of Terra, versus a bunch of other factions), [i]then[/i] it could be considered Non-Canon, since it would actively conflict with the Canon of the franchise.

sabata2

2013-04-24 12:51:40 am

ANKOKU

No. Other M is full canon. Just no one wants it to be.

Kitsune_Phoenix

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Kitsune_Phoenix: 2013-04-24 01:10:31 am

2013-04-24 01:09:58 am

Ta'kaya as "Teyla the Demiphoenix"

Quote from sabata2:

No. Other M is full canon. Just no one wants it to be.

Darn. *pushes Samus off her rock and sits on it all depressed*

tomatobob

2013-04-24 01:27:24 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Other M is the only game I consider canon.