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2005-07-04 02:46:19 am

in the name of justice!

Quote from Arkarian:

Quote from tomatobob:

I've asked this before but, what is this obsession with playing games online? I've played some online multiplayer games and can't see what's so great about it.

That's exactly how I feel.

I've played some games online as well. The main draw is that you get to play with random opponents, and they can even theoretically be anywhere in the world.

I'd much rather play against the guy sitting next to me on the couch, though. There are many reasons, like knowing that winning means I've beaten my brother, and losing means I didn't get owned by some chump. Plus the internet allows lots of people to act like kraids. On forums they get banned, but you rarely have such luck in games.

nate

2005-07-04 10:10:22 am

what if the person you're playing with/against from across the world is closer to you than your own brother?

spineshark

2005-07-04 12:47:18 pm

in the name of justice!

Quote from njahnke:

what if the person you're playing with/against from across the world is closer to you than your own brother?

Like my sister in Central Asia? I play online with my friends in other states sometimes, but I think the random people that online gaming affords limitless numbers of aren't much fun to play against.

SAL

2005-07-04 12:49:22 pm

Wow, Nate is phycic (reading people mind sorry can't spell) or just a lucky guess i guess.

nate

2005-07-04 01:40:49 pm

Quote from Spine Shark:

Quote from njahnke:

what if the person you're playing with/against from across the world is closer to you than your own brother?

Like my sister in Central Asia? I play online with my friends in other states sometimes, but I think the random people that online gaming affords limitless numbers of aren't much fun to play against.

ah, ok, i gotcha. yeah, i'm definitely seeing where you're coming from now. i guess my point would be, then, that without online play, you can't go against those few you really love, even though the majority of people are worthless to you.

Nebula427

2005-07-05 02:34:02 am

Darn, this is a let down. I think the option of online play is a great thing. Its better to have it for the players that want it. Then the ones that don't want it don't have to play it. Everybody wins. But now we shall have to wait till MP3 for online play.... or will we?

Spectere

2005-07-05 03:00:20 am

Guys, sit back and really think about this for a few minutes. Making a stable online multiplayer game isn't easy by any stretch. When you take that idea and try to implement it on a mobile platform you also have to worry about other things such as battery conservation and signal strength on top of the other big issues (like servers). Then you have to have good multiplayer code in the actual game that can handle latency and network problems gracefully.

Now, think of how players would communicate with one another. With a DS that would most definitely be voice communication. Now on top of the network issues that would need to be resolved, you'd have to find a light, quick, extremely bandwidth-friendly voice codec that the DS would be able to work with on-the-fly while running the game.

What I'm trying to say is that it's not simple at all. Before you criticize Nintendo about making a decision like this really think about how practical it is to begin with. I'm sure one day they will have a very nice infrastructure set up for online games, but now is not the time, obviously.

Guys, sit back and really think about this for a few minutes.  Making a stable online multiplayer game isn't easy by any stretch.  When you take that idea and try to implement it on a mobile platform you also have to worry about other things such as battery conservation and signal strength on top of the other big issues (like servers).  Then you have to have good multiplayer code in the actual game that can handle latency and network problems gracefully.

Now, think of how players would communicate with one another.  With a DS that would most definitely be voice communication.  Now on top of the network issues that would need to be resolved, you'd have to find a light, quick, extremely bandwidth-friendly voice codec that the DS would be able to work with on-the-fly while running the game.

What I'm trying to say is that it's not simple at all.  Before you criticize Nintendo about making a decision like this really think about how practical it is to begin with.  I'm sure one day they will have a very nice infrastructure set up for online games, but now is not the time, obviously.

arkarian

2005-07-05 10:35:16 am

red chamber dream

I especially agree with that last sentence, Spectere. And I think that if Nintendo chooses to do massive online gaming in the future, it will be the best online gaming ever conceived.

Quote from Nebula427:

Darn, this is a let down. I think the option of online play is a great thing. Its better to have it for the players that want it. Then the ones that don't want it don't have to play it. Everybody wins.

But you have to think for a second: nowadays, when a game is made so it can be played online, all the thought is put into the online aspect of the game, and the single player mode is average or just sucks completely. I'm not saying it's like that with all online games, but it's true with a lot of them.

nate

2005-07-05 10:43:32 am

i really need to play cs:cz. the single player actually looked really fun.

Izo

2005-07-05 11:38:41 am

soaking through

Right, I'm pretty sure you're making a point with sarcasm there, but just in case you're not, everyone says it's shit.

nate

2005-07-05 11:51:06 am

>_>

yeah ... that was sarcasm ... right ...

Spectere

2005-07-06 07:09:23 am

Quote from njahnke:

i really need to play cs:cz. the single player actually looked really fun.

DERAIL'D.

But anyway, CZ is just terrible. I'd rather be forced to play CS with nothing but a knife against a team of 16 AWP-equiped elite players on a completely open map for two hours straight than be subjected to CZ.

nate

2005-07-06 10:55:12 am

wow. that's pretty bad.

Izo

2005-07-06 12:46:49 pm

soaking through

Woo, we crushed Nate's dream.

High Five!

Stubo

2005-08-22 07:02:20 am

No online is not that much of a setback for me. I was initially annoyed, but now I don't really mind. Single-cart multiplayer is going to be awesome.

About Nintendo Wifi. From what I've heard, it is going to be the best online system yet. Here hoping that the reports are correct...

elyscape

2005-11-05 02:42:36 pm

There wasn't going to be online, yes. HOWEVER, check this and/or this.
The most recent delay was so that they could add online functionality. Which is awesome.
It is, by the way, currently scheduled to come out on March 20.