[SM] Super Metroid: Golden Dawn

2007-10-15 05:06:29 pm

Quote from Black Telomeres:

Get the X-Ray scope asap to make them easier though.

I actually wonder where the heck it should be. This is the only special item I didn't got in my run, despite searching pretty much everywhere. Did you pull off a SMI-style X-Ray hideout, or what? :P

Also, I noticed that I actually never fought Botwoon. Did you remove this boss at all, or did I somehow managed a unintentional sequence break to skip him? I'm a bit confused about this.

Regarding BlueGlass' completion, it's indeed a mystery. I tried hard to kill this special Ki-Hunters in Sky Temple, but there is really no other way than with Plasma. There is indeed something very strange here...

ZephyrZx:

Look for Bombs next. They are located in north-east of Tetra Ruins.

Tonski

2007-10-15 05:11:54 pm

Found Grapple and am stuck. Hints on my next item or the location where to head?

BlueGlass

2007-10-15 05:15:25 pm

About the kihunters, you have to remember that the speed echoes (y'know, those things after shinesparkng?) cause plasma/wave damage.

They can also be used to kill a certain pink pirate.

Black Telomeres

2007-10-15 05:38:47 pm

Quote from ZephyrZx:

but it seems i cant go back from where i come, and everywhere i go its a dead end.. there is a room with water but i doubt i can go there 8(

The room to the right of that room you're in now has a place where you can mid-air morph into the side of the wall. Walljump up the right side and midair morph into the little hole you can see in the blocks. Then just keep going right no matter what. There are a couple of baracades but they're all passable.

Quote from Saturn:

I actually wonder where the heck it should be. This is the only special item I didn't got in my run, despite searching pretty much everywhere. Did you pull off a SMI-style X-Ray hideout, or what?

It's actually not that hard to get to. It's pretty much right out in the open (no insane bombing everywhere needed to find it), but the place it's in isn't likely to be backtracked to, so I can understand why people tend to miss it. I guarantee you've seen the door that leads to it early on in the game.

Quote from Saturn:

Also, I noticed that I actually never fought Botwoon. Did you remove this boss at all, or did I somehow managed a unintentional sequence break to skip him? I'm a bit confused about this.

Yep, you were able to sequence break past him. He's in Tetra; connected to the large middle room with water at the bottom with the original easy to get e-tank. There's a PB door to the right that leads there. He guards the spring ball for people who aren't able to sequence break him.

Quote from Tonski:

Found Grapple and am stuck. Hints on my next item or the location where to head?

Head back to the center of Dark Gardens and find some grapple blocks that you can now break. It'll open up a whole new area.

Quote from BlueGlass:

About the kihunters, you have to remember that the speed echoes (y'know, those things after shinesparkng?) cause plasma/wave damage.

They can also be used to kill a certain pink pirate.

Ah, thats interesting. I didn't think of that. I assumed perhaps they could be killed with some obscure technique but as long as it was hard enough to figure out, I'm ok with it.

[quote="ZephyrZx"]but it seems i cant go back from where i come, and everywhere i go its a dead end.. there is a room with water but i doubt i can go there 8([/quote]

The room to the right of that room you're in now has a place where you can mid-air morph into the side of the wall. Walljump up the right side and midair morph into the little hole you can see in the blocks. Then just keep going right no matter what. There are a couple of baracades but they're all passable.

[quote="Saturn"]I actually wonder where the heck it should be. This is the only special item I didn't got in my run, despite searching pretty much everywhere. Did you pull off a SMI-style X-Ray hideout, or what?[/quote]

It's actually not that hard to get to. It's pretty much right out in the open (no insane bombing everywhere needed to find it), but the place it's in isn't likely to be backtracked to, so I can understand why people tend to miss it. I guarantee you've seen the door that leads to it early on in the game.

[quote="Saturn"] Also, I noticed that I actually never fought Botwoon. Did you remove this boss at all, or did I somehow managed a unintentional sequence break to skip him? I'm a bit confused about this. [/quote]

Yep, you were able to sequence break past him. He's in Tetra; connected to the large middle room with water at the bottom with the original easy to get e-tank. There's a PB door to the right that leads there. He guards the spring ball for people who aren't able to sequence break him.

[quote="Tonski"]Found Grapple and am stuck. Hints on my next item or the location where to head?[/quote]

Head back to the center of Dark Gardens and find some grapple blocks that you can now break. It'll open up a whole new area.

[quote="BlueGlass"]About the kihunters, you have to remember that the speed echoes (y'know, those things after shinesparkng?)  cause plasma/wave damage.

They can also be used to kill a certain pink pirate.[/quote]

Ah, thats interesting. I didn't think of that. I assumed perhaps they could be killed with some obscure technique but as long as it was hard enough to figure out, I'm ok with it.

Electrometer Prime

2007-10-15 05:52:09 pm

Oh please dont tell me Powerbobs are back at High Command. I sorta Backtracked all the way to the beggining.

If so, I will remain positive for I have Spazer now.

Black Telomeres

2007-10-15 06:35:35 pm

Quote from Electrometer Prime:

Oh please dont tell me Powerbobs are back at High Command. I sorta Backtracked all the way to the beggining.

If so, I will remain positive for I have Spazer now.

Sadly, I have some bad news. They are back near HC, although not in it exactly. However, PBs open at least one decently useful shortcut and a few other shortcuts in some areas so transversing areas should be a bit easier once you get them.

Anima Zero

2007-10-15 07:31:43 pm

The Operation Was Completed Successfully!

Clear Time- 8:47

Item Collection Rate- 87%

See You Next Mission!

An awesome hack to play. One of my favorite hacks right next to Impossible.

ZephyrZx

2007-10-15 07:44:08 pm

god damnit im stuck again...

wtf do i do at

the place with many space pirates, right before the underworld... there is a doos, grayed out and i cant find the way to open it...

Black Telomeres

2007-10-15 08:21:43 pm

Anima Zero - glad you enjoyed the hack.

Quote from ZephyrZx:

god damnit im stuck again...

wtf do i do at

the place with many space pirates, right before the underworld... there is a doos, grayed out and i cant find the way to open it...

That's actually

The escape shaft. Thus there are a lot of metal doors. You dont need to do anything in there yet. Keep searching the Dark Gardens if you have the Grapple beam and some other stuff and you'll be able to find another entrance to the Underworld. You'll need the Varia before you can make headway in there though. There are some hints elsewhere in this thread.

ZephyrZx

2007-10-15 08:31:03 pm

yeah, saw the hints, still cant get the varia xd

got morphball, bombs, 30 missiles, 2 etanks...

goooood damniiiit i think im going insane, could someone PM me the answer or something XDD

Black Telomeres

2007-10-15 08:36:55 pm

More hints:

upper middle of the Dark Gardens has those horrid bridges. Theyre horrid at least for some people. You'll basically know there's something there when you see it, its just you have to make some creative use of your bombs to get in there.

ZephyrZx

2007-10-15 08:49:01 pm

Quote from Black Telomeres:

More hints:

upper middle of the Dark Gardens has those horrid bridges. Theyre horrid at least for some people. You'll basically know there's something there when you see it, its just you have to make some creative use of your bombs to get in there.

if its diagonal bomb jumping or something like that im screwed and its game over for me....

Fano7

2007-10-15 08:56:05 pm

Every Bit Counts

No dbj or hbj required.

ZephyrZx

2007-10-15 09:13:45 pm

im going crazy with this thing....

ducknerd

2007-10-15 09:36:51 pm

Eschews avatars

Here are specific directions for anyone trying to get Varia:

In the room after the evil crumble-block bridge is a room where bugs spawn in midair. When you jump up into the odd girdered section of the room (like you were going to Tetra Ruins), morph and go to the edge of the right-hand hole. Lay a bomb, and as it is about to explode, roll off the platform. The bomb will break a block (creating a gap which you can land in), and the rest of the path is obvious.

BTW, how did you get the music to change immediately after I collected Varia?

ZephyrZx

2007-10-15 09:41:05 pm

Quote from ducknerd:

Here are specific directions for anyone trying to get Varia:

In the room after the evil crumble-block bridge is a room where bugs spawn in midair. When you jump up into the odd girdered section of the room (like you were going to Tetra Ruins), morph and go to the edge of the right-hand hole. Lay a bomb, and as it is about to explode, roll off the platform. The bomb will break a block (creating a gap which you can land in), and the rest of the path is obvious.

BTW, how did you get the music to change immediately after I collected Varia?

holy ****... ive been bombing that place for centurys and nothing blowed up T___T

Black Telomeres

2007-10-15 10:51:58 pm

Quote from ducknerd:

BTW, how did you get the music to change immediately after I collected Varia?

The honest answer is...I dunno, lol. I never really noticed it. I was probably distracted while testing that room or had the music muted during my playthrough of that point. I'm trying to remember what that Varia room is in the original SM and failing. It may be the ice beam room.

Btw, this reminds me, no one has commented on the bizarre theme that plays for a second as you enter the main upwards passage in the EH. I thought for sure people would be loling over that. And I didn't intend that either, but I know whats causing it.

Quote from ZephyrZx:

holy ****... ive been bombing that place for centurys and nothing blowed up T___T

The SM engine didnt want you to have the Varia =(

Tonski

2007-10-16 05:04:17 am

There was a door which had 3 grapple block in front of it, inside that was a blue room with PB pack I couldn't get and a grey door, no help from there.

There were grapple block above crumble block in an open area, down was a blue door and inside was the west part of Underworld with PB door inside, no help from there.

I'm so uncreative when it comes to playing hacks with new map designs.

Anima Zero

2007-10-16 07:38:48 am

Quote from Tonski:

There was a door which had 3 grapple block in front of it, inside that was a blue room with PB pack I couldn't get and a grey door, no help from there.

There were grapple block above crumble block in an open area, down was a blue door and inside was the west part of Underworld with PB door inside, no help from there.

I'm so uncreative when it comes to playing hacks with new map designs.

West part of Underworld is where you should be now. Chances are you didn't search around much there yet. Look for fake walls or part of a wall that you can shoot/bomb if you find your progress impeded in some way while there.

Your next key item lies in

Lower Underworld

Carpenter

2007-10-16 10:11:09 am

Metroid Hunter

wow, your hack is quite nice. Obviously you have spend a lot of time by creating this hack. See you next mission ;)

ZephyrZx

2007-10-16 08:00:36 pm

god damn dude, i give this 10/10 for making me so freaking frustrated xd

been almost 4 hours [spoilers]first, trying to beat crocmire, freaking hard battle, i kinda kamikazed against him xd, then, spawn spore, god, never though a lame boss would beat the crap out of me, then, phantoon, 1 word, HELL[/spoiler]

anyways, i think i skipped alot of crap, i only have

Ice beam, charge beam, graple beam, missiles, super missiles, speed booster

any hint on where i can find the rest of the stuff and what i have to do after i get the

speed booster

?

Black Telomeres

2007-10-16 08:45:13 pm

Carpenter - thanks. Glad you liked it.

ZephyrZx -

Actually you haven't skipped any of the key items - you're right on track. I'm glad you're finding some challenge in the hack and you've been able to perservere past it. I definitely tried to up the challenge from my previous hack, especially in the boss area. Anyway, as far as what to do with the

speed booster, you'll find the answer by backtracking to the Eternal Hall and think about the way the area is structured. It'd look a bit more logical if there was another elevator in a...certain place =)

ICheatAtGolf

2007-10-16 10:51:10 pm

Got the X-Ray grin new

ICheatAtGolf

2007-10-17 03:12:27 am

The operation was completed successfully!

Clear time: 7:09

Items collected: 88%

This hack actually turned out to be pretty good. I loved the ending, and i'm glad i didn't give up on this hack earlier. The game really picked up after getting the Power Bombs.

Also, that energy tank you hid in the room before spazer (with the flying grapple guy) was very clever. I wonder if anyone else got it besides me? 8-)

Black Telomeres

2007-10-17 04:07:03 am

Thanks for playing it, ICheatAtGolf. Glad you were able to continue on despite your dislike of some of the early level design.