O__O (NDS & Metroid 3)

2004-10-14 12:06:38 am

I think that the formula needs to account for probability, and two major sets and positions.

Sets: "Follower" and "Contradictor"
Positions: "Positive" and "negative."

If the situation features a majority of "positive" positions, then a person who belongs to the set of "follower" is more likely to support the product, or at least focus on its positive points, and a person of the set "contradictor" is more likely to do the opposite. However, if the majority position is negative, the "follower" will become part of the bandwagon, and the contradictor will become a defender of the product, despite potential flaws.

Then there are those who begin the majority opinion rolling, who belong to a set in and of themselves, and are difficult to predict.

Personally, I enjoyed Fusion and ZM, but not to the extent of Super, though I recognize that my personal history with SM leads to incredible bias on my part. Also, the only ones of the PS FF games I enjoyed were Tactics and IX, though VII is often the target of too much bias, either by contradictors or followers.

I think that the formula needs to account for probability, and two major sets and positions.

Sets:  "Follower" and "Contradictor"
Positions:  "Positive" and "negative."

If the situation features a majority of "positive" positions, then a person who belongs to the set of "follower" is more likely to support the product, or at least focus on its positive points, and a person of the set "contradictor" is more likely to do the opposite.  However, if the majority position is negative, the "follower" will become part of the bandwagon, and the contradictor will become a defender of the product, despite potential flaws.

Then there are those who begin the majority opinion rolling, who belong to a set in and of themselves, and are difficult to predict.

Personally, I enjoyed Fusion and ZM, but not to the extent of Super, though I recognize that my personal history with SM leads to incredible bias on my part.  Also, the only ones of the PS FF games I enjoyed were Tactics and IX, though VII is often the target of too much bias, either by contradictors or followers.

Yoshi348

2004-10-14 12:27:27 am

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Ready and willing.

Ow... I think we've got this into a science now.

RS: I actually meant in the intierm (sp).

And stop picking in my theorem! :P I know it's false anyway; there's more than 6 or 7 people to apply it to.

Red Scarlet

2004-10-14 12:59:44 am

I('d) like to watch (some MP3 runs)

Neat, 9 and Tactics are the two I like.

Dragondarch

2004-10-14 02:56:26 am

Agreed RS. Tactics and IX were the best of the PSone FFs, with VII after that and VIII somewhere wayyyy back behind all other FF titles.

Chanoire

2004-10-14 03:05:43 am

Wow, I leave for a few hours to do some work and visit my grandparents and I return to find I've been theoremed.

I have to take slight issue with the contention that people who think all later FF's suck or like/dislike more than one of them disprove my general statement. I think I was ambiguous enough in phrasing to allow for the possibilities of strong feelings about more than one of them. My bf likes them all. ^_^ I've just seen too many discussions turn into "FF8 sucks! 7 and 10 were the best!" "No, FF7 sucks and 9 rocked!" "You're crazy, 9 was cliche city, 8 was the imaginative one!". Since I've never finished any of the series I look at it all rather detachedly; of the five that qualify 8 is the one I look forward to playing the most even if the part I saw of it made me want to throttle half the characters. And I stopped playing 7 a few hours in because it was depressing.

Of course, the other characteristic of that sort of discussion is take over whatever thread it's in. :P

Quote from Red Scarlet:

Quote from Yoshi348:

Thing is after a 9 year abscence, SM morphed from great game to God.

Probably due to the [lack of] quality of the games that took 9 years to come out to those people.

Long anticipation does often seem to have a more negative effect than a positive one. It becomes impossible for whatever is coming to live up to hope (and hype). With the two of these together -- lots of time for the earlier game to be put on a pedestal and lots of time to look forward to another one -- it would be almost impossible for any game to live up to that kind of expecation.

Wow, I leave for a few hours to do some work and visit my grandparents and I return to find I've been theoremed.

I have to take slight issue with the contention that people who think all later FF's suck or like/dislike more than one of them disprove my general statement.  I think I was ambiguous enough in phrasing to allow for the possibilities of strong feelings about more than one of them.  My bf likes them all. ^_^  I've just seen too many discussions turn into "FF8 sucks!  7 and 10 were the best!"  "No, FF7 sucks and 9 rocked!"  "You're crazy, 9 was cliche city, 8 was the imaginative one!".  Since I've never finished any of the series I look at it all rather detachedly; of the five that qualify 8 is the one I look forward to playing the most even if the part I saw of it made me want to throttle half the characters.  And I stopped playing 7 a few hours in because it was depressing.

Of course, the other characteristic of that sort of discussion is take over whatever thread it's in. :P

[quote="Red Scarlet"][quote="Yoshi348"]Thing is after a 9 year abscence, SM morphed from great game to God.[/quote]
Probably due to the [lack of] quality of the games that took 9 years to come out to those people.[/quote]
Long anticipation does often seem to have a more negative effect than a positive one.  It becomes impossible for whatever is coming to live up to hope (and hype).  With the two of these together -- lots of time for the earlier game to be put on a pedestal and lots of time to look forward to another one -- it would be almost impossible for any game to live up to that kind of expecation.

Red Scarlet

2004-10-14 01:44:58 pm

I('d) like to watch (some MP3 runs)

No, 7 hangs out with 8 in the corner.