O__O (NDS & Metroid 3)

KennyMan666

2004-10-11 06:32:46 am

Viking

Precursor

Take a look at this picture. Specifically, the piece of white tape on the underside.

So... any thoughts?

Also posted at SCU: http://www.samusforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1485

Thread title:

=Prime Killer=

2004-10-11 06:41:39 am

That is deffinatly fake.
No Question about it.

It WOULD be nice if M3 came to DS.. :D

ajbolt89

2004-10-11 08:18:52 am

lol no way

Heehee, that means nothing... interesting, but it probably means like version 3 of Hunters or some shit. They're calling MP2 Metroid 2 at stores now (reciept), so I wouldn't be surprised if mp:h was mp3 a.k.a. m3. Would be nice, but unlikely regardless.

Superion

2004-10-11 11:30:37 am

Super Metroid WILL come to the DS or GBA so don't give your hopes up yet.

nate

2004-10-11 11:33:34 am

Quote from Superion:

Super Metroid WILL come to the DS or GBA so don't give your hopes up yet.

your daily dose of irony, brought to you by superion!

Izo

2004-10-11 01:55:38 pm

soaking through

How is that irony? I'd say it was more like blind optimism.

nate

2004-10-11 02:44:25 pm

yeah, i thought that might go over people's heads. i found it hilarious that he said "don't get your hopes up" (meaning don't get too comfortable, as the gunship is about to hit the fan) preceded by "Super Metroid WILL come to the DS or GBA" (meaning probably the best video game ever made will be pissed on). his words, to me, mean the exact opposite of what, as far as i can tell, he was trying to say.

i think there's a real reason why nintendo has left super metroid alone thus far, and frankly, they'd better continue to do so if they know what's good for them. that game is like ancient technology or something now - too advanced for them to understand, modify, or recreate. i don't know if there's any truth to that gunpei yokoi statement that super metroid should be the last metroid game, but hey, wouldn't surprise me a bit if it were true. only way to go after metroid 3 was down (excepting prime, of course, because it's a totally new take on metroid).

edit: also, that nametag could identify its carrier as the third show floor ds playing metroid prime hunters: first hunt. just an idea.

yeah, i thought that might go over people's heads. i found it hilarious that he said "don't get your hopes up" (meaning don't get too comfortable, as the gunship is about to hit the fan) preceded by "Super Metroid WILL come to the DS or GBA" (meaning probably the best video game ever made will be pissed on). his words, to me, mean the exact opposite of what, as far as i can tell, he was trying to say.

i think there's a real reason why nintendo has left super metroid alone thus far, and frankly, they'd better continue to do so if they know what's good for them. that game is like ancient technology or something now - too advanced for them to understand, modify, or recreate. i don't know if there's any truth to that gunpei yokoi statement that super metroid should be the last metroid game, but hey, wouldn't surprise me a bit if it were true. only way to go after metroid 3 was down (excepting prime, of course, because it's a totally new take on metroid).

edit: also, that nametag could identify its carrier as the third show floor ds playing metroid prime hunters: first hunt. just an idea.

Izo

2004-10-11 02:58:01 pm

soaking through

He said "Don't give your hopes up", not "Don't get your hopes up". Completely different meanings. :P

nate

2004-10-11 03:11:14 pm

oops ... go dyslexic moment. same meaning the way i read it, though.

Izo

2004-10-11 03:20:18 pm

soaking through

Really? I thought "to get" and "to give" actually had opposing meanings... :D

nate

2004-10-11 03:27:04 pm

don't give your hopes up about metroid 3 being on sp/ds, don't get your hopes up about metroid 3 being on sp/ds ... opposites by themselves, but the way i interpreted the whole post, either way it sounds like he's telling us that we needn't worry about the game being ruined by being ported to a different console paradigm - it's going to happen!

Izo

2004-10-11 03:32:42 pm

soaking through

Oh, I understand. What I don't understand is how a topic on a random DS picture turned into a discussion on semantics...

nate

2004-10-11 03:34:11 pm

that one's easy - it happened when yours truly posted in it. ;)

Izo

2004-10-11 03:38:26 pm

soaking through

I thought that was GreenMamba's job. :D

nate

2004-10-11 03:44:44 pm

always two there are, an apprentice and a master.

Izo

2004-10-11 03:59:02 pm

soaking through

Rofl! Tariq Aziz owns you!

GreenMamba

2004-10-11 06:11:01 pm

What luck, there's french fry stuck in my beard.

Nate's been giving me night classes on how to derail topics and trains.

Superion

2004-10-11 06:22:47 pm

I don't know what I ment anymore after reading you guy's posts... o_o

SonicandTails218

2004-10-11 07:37:56 pm

Quote from njanke:

i think there's a real reason why nintendo has left super metroid alone thus far, and frankly, they'd better continue to do so if they know what's good for them. that game is like ancient technology or something now - too advanced for them to understand, modify, or recreate. i don't know if there's any truth to that gunpei yokoi statement that super metroid should be the last metroid game, but hey, wouldn't surprise me a bit if it were true. only way to go after metroid 3 was down (excepting prime, of course, because it's a totally new take on metroid).

WAIT, wait, wait a minute. How come SEGA can port games from the 16-bit era like they're going out of style (pun intended), but Super Metroid is too complicated? If anything, I think, umm..., I think that Nintendo is a bunch of lazy censor bypasses/filters, and they just don't want to give us what we want.

Yoshi348

2004-10-11 10:15:23 pm

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Ready and willing.

No, he means "OMG DON'T TOUCH THE SACRED COW!!!!!!1111". I'm not sure where the SM=god thing came from, maybe from that Fusion burn out, but it was kinda out of left field... at least where I was coming from.

nate

2004-10-12 09:53:52 am

the comparison to sega isn't valid, imo. sega is not really one company so much as it is several teams of developers who stamp a "sega" logo on their products when they come out for better brand recognition, among other reasons. i get the feeling that when people from sonic team port sonic games, they have a strong sense of respect for what sonic was and try to keep it as intact as possible ... down to the single bit in some cases (the emulated versions of the games on the cube, for example). also, yuji naka has a reputation of being a controlling asshole, so you can see where he wouldn't let his games be raped by porting teams.

on top of all of that, super metroid is just a much deeper game than sonic games are. i'm not ragging on sonic games or anything like that - far from it - but i think that the format of super metroid (active player instead of passive player) does not lend itself well to being translated verbatim by a modern porting team. and we've seen what a bad job the 'metroid team' or whatever led by sakamoto is doing interpreting super metroid now for modern games (fusion and zm). i can hear 'let's make every game a different experience,' but that's kind of hard to sell when super metroid was apparently already the best it was going to get in 2d.

hope that clears things up some.

the comparison to sega isn't valid, imo. sega is not really one company so much as it is several teams of developers who stamp a "sega" logo on their products when they come out for better brand recognition, among other reasons. i get the feeling that when people from sonic team port sonic games, they have a strong sense of respect for what sonic was and try to keep it as intact as possible ... down to the single bit in some cases (the emulated versions of the games on the cube, for example). also, yuji naka has a reputation of being a controlling asshole, so you can see where he wouldn't let his games be raped by porting teams.

on top of all of that, super metroid is just a much deeper game than sonic games are. i'm not ragging on sonic games or anything like that - far from it - but i think that the format of super metroid (active player instead of passive player) does not lend itself well to being translated verbatim by a modern porting team. and we've seen what a bad job the 'metroid team' or whatever led by sakamoto is doing interpreting super metroid now for modern games (fusion and zm). i can hear 'let's make every game a different experience,' but that's kind of hard to sell when super metroid was apparently already the best it was going to get in 2d.

hope that clears things up some.

dude

2004-10-12 03:35:01 pm

Yoshio Sakamoto Directed Super Metroid (it was his game, not Yokio's), and Gunpei Yokio didn't create Metroid, Hiroji Kiyotake did.

What is with all the Zero Mission and Fusion hate? Are you really that emotionally attached to the series that you wish that those games, which are basically carbon copies of Super Metroid, didn't exist? I really think some people think of Super Metroid as this godly game, and I think they take the game a little to seriously. I pesonally don't think it is anywhere near the best game of all time, in fact, I think Metroid Prime far surpasses it (and I always thought that the 2d castlevania games were better than the 2d Metroid games).

As for a port of Super Metroid? Why not? I would certainly buy one. I guess I really don't care if it's not a prefect port, but I may not fall into the hardcore Metroid fanbase like alot of people are that notices such little diffrences

Ekarderif

2004-10-12 03:51:51 pm

A. Fusion is a carbon copy of Super Metroid as much as Ellen DeGeneres is straight. Suffice to say, it's not a good Metroid game.
B. Zero Mission was too short, too easy, and lacked true sequence breaking. Fun for a short while but gets old really quick.
C. Super Metroid rules.
D. Metroid Prime is just Super Metroid in 3D without some of its awesomeness.
E. These bullets are annoying.

trh

2004-10-12 04:00:06 pm

Quote from Ekarderif:

A. Fusion is ..//.. not a good Metroid game.

Denied

Quote from Ekarderif:

C. Super Metroid rules.

Denied

Quote from Ekarderif:

D. Metroid Prime is just Super Metroid in 3D without some of its awesomeness.

Denied

Quote from Ekarderif:

E. These bullets are annoying.

... Whatever

*Gets shot again*

dude

2004-10-12 05:00:51 pm

Quote from Ekarderif:

A. Fusion is a carbon copy of Super Metroid as much as Ellen DeGeneres is straight. Suffice to say, it's not a good Metroid game.
B. Zero Mission was too short, too easy, and lacked true sequence breaking. Fun for a short while but gets old really quick.
C. Super Metroid rules.
D. Metroid Prime is just Super Metroid in 3D without some of its awesomeness.
E. These bullets are annoying.

Some would say Super Metroid is and overrated game. I'm sure people don't design games to have glitches in them, which Super Metroid had, and I'm sure that some of the glitches that were in Metroid Prime won't be in the game the second time around. If your going to judge a game by how many unintentinal glitches are in them, well...